Post ALWDbJERv2Ty41wLIG by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ALWDbJERv2Ty41wLIG by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T14:40:00Z
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Congratulations for #Matrix on reaching 60 million users!https://news.itsfoss.com/matrix-sixty-million-users/... however, it's 60M distributed over how many nodes?According to the data here, it's only about 13: https://www.hello-matrix.net/public_servers.php?format=json&only_public=true. Of course, not official, but still pretty low: averages to about 5M per instance. Not the load of what #federation should be IMO. :P#decentralization
(DIR) Post #ALWHiHlKBJcHLitoEi by jinxd@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T15:26:05Z
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@kzimmermann Still remains to be known, of this include all the bridged "users". Would imagine that would bring that number down *significantly*.
(DIR) Post #ALWJYEi4sJv0tYiTXk by deriver@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T15:46:43Z
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@kzimmermann agreed! I just hope that as Matrix adoption increases, we don't end up with an even larger concentration of users on those ~13 nodes
(DIR) Post #ALWSmeQ6yt5IH9GFmq by milan@social.tchncs.de
2022-07-15T17:30:07Z
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@kzimmermann https://joinmatrix.org/ ... + $unknown ... maybe with one of the big multi-platform fediverse lists there even more (forgot the name of the biggest just now)...also not sure whats going on with https://t2bot.io/voyager/
(DIR) Post #ALWUEfvd4BQb13vjFY by milan@social.tchncs.de
2022-07-15T17:35:43Z
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@kzimmermann https://the-federation.info/matrix%7Csynapse
(DIR) Post #ALWUEgOhK6gETDWwYi by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T17:46:25Z
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@milan that's a more relieving number. The load's about 30k users per instance, then, but even then I think it's a little too high: one node goes down and 30k users go dark? I think that might even be more skewed, though, since during the beginning of the project there were only 2 or 3 main servers, so I think it's not unrealistic to think that they still hold like 70% of all users. But then again I'm in Fosstodon...
(DIR) Post #ALWUbVYBom2bUPr0Iy by ITwrx@blurts.net
2022-07-15T16:39:46.246997Z
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@kzimmermann i probably would have been running a server a long time ago if #dendrite were ready. The Synapse #matrix server's requirements are unacceptable to me.
(DIR) Post #ALWUbVwIN9K6hB8FsW by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T17:50:30Z
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@ITwrx that's what I heard, many people complained it's hard to host a synapse server, including putting aside the RAM and CPU required by it. OTOH, one can put an #XMPP server running quite quickly and easily with software like Prosody. I did it myself with a sub-Gigahertz netbook way back.
(DIR) Post #ALWUygSXQQMPz1GHVA by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T17:54:45Z
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@jinxd true, and I guess that's one of the side-effects of federated services: we'll never really know the true size of it (yay, privacy!). But yes, I do remember a lot of "bridging" going on in XMPP and IRC rooms linked with Matrix.
(DIR) Post #ALWfm2gGatuqdIrEXo by downey@floss.social
2022-07-15T19:55:42Z
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@kzimmermann @ITwrx https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy has largely done away with the need for headaches in administration, but the resource needs remain high. Looking forward to next generation of homeservers with dendrite et al.
(DIR) Post #ALWlC5ZwwPegvB8soy by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-07-15T20:56:26Z
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@downey cool, I was wondering if someone would ever write a docker deploy script or something for it. Good to know!@ITwrx
(DIR) Post #ALWlGBtvNSYVggRQDg by downey@floss.social
2022-07-15T20:57:10Z
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@kzimmermann Yeah works really great with lots of optional components to add, and good support. @ITwrx
(DIR) Post #ANBMTxCuRMj1WwuqEi by selea@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-03T08:54:43Z
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@ITwrx The requirements has most likely changed since you last looked.It is running fine on a small VPS with 25 users@kzimmermann
(DIR) Post #ANBbtFuNXtjo5Clrto by paul@notnull.click
2022-09-03T11:37:53.150642Z
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@selea @ITwrx @kzimmermann my Synapse server has been running for 4 years on a entry level VPS with no issues.less than 25 users, but it does handle the WhatsApp bridge as wellkey point is to use Postgres and not the default sqlite though
(DIR) Post #ANBsenkH9luHu5jsKe by karmanyaahm@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-03T14:55:19Z
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@kzimmermann I'm confused... it's 13 public servers, but it's more distributed because a lot of people pay for their own private servers (for them/their community)
(DIR) Post #ANCEKkq0SHkQ5OGWAq by ITwrx@blurts.net
2022-09-03T18:54:51.318284Z
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@selea @kzimmermann thanks, but can you quantify "running fine" and "small vps"? how much ram and cpu does it use? are large public rooms being joined? i only see "At least 1GB of free RAM if you want to join large public rooms like #matrix:matrix.org" in the docs. "at least" doesn't tell me anything all that useful, especially without any user numbers.
(DIR) Post #ANCEKlTi4fVU4WqE3k by selea@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-03T18:58:06Z
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@ITwrx I am a member of large room.It is doing fine with 1 vCPU and 1 GB RAM.I actually have decreased the resources since the last year - it was way worse back in 2020/2019.I do run both redis and postgresql on the same machine.@kzimmermann
(DIR) Post #ANCFMpg7WrWjdFCDr6 by ITwrx@blurts.net
2022-09-03T19:00:37.198135Z
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@selea @kzimmermann thanks. what is the utilization percent (rough estimate) of those two resources(cpu and ram) pls.
(DIR) Post #ANCFMq4E5EoEq0TTQe by selea@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-03T19:09:43Z
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@ITwrxWell, for me Load average0.5Cpu usage is lowRam usage of Synapse is below 200mb @kzimmermann
(DIR) Post #ANCIBg8cxVGgiju3G4 by ITwrx@blurts.net
2022-09-03T19:11:30.812900Z
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@selea @kzimmermann thanks, that's pretty good all things considered.
(DIR) Post #ANCIBgWNXCGbuP11HM by selea@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-03T19:41:19Z
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@ITwrxIt has come a long way since the first release. You dont need a dedicated expensive machine anymore @kzimmermann