Post AKpBjiJS3I5D8G2ECm by greenpunk@spinster.xyz
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(DIR) Post #AKp7GDcMhFInidYtX6 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T19:36:24.970064Z
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What's your honest reaction to the SCOTUS ruling overturning Roe v. Wade and declaring that abortion should be left up to the states to set policy for?
(DIR) Post #AKp7xkftfQpGhAyKFk by EffreyJepstein@poa.st
2022-06-24T19:44:10.318372Z
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@dave I'd like the right to bodily autonomy and privacy as laid out in roe v wade, just not limited to abortions. However, if such rights existed in the constitution, we would still be having this abortion argument because at some point the baby has those rights as well :shrug_akko:
(DIR) Post #AKp8NuevAVoFBqzRvE by newt@stereophonic.space
2022-06-24T19:48:55.156051Z
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@dave abortions suck and I wish people had less of them. But at the same time, body autonomy is one of the most important aspects, and therefore any person must be able to do (or not do) anything with his or her own body. Including taking (or not taking) a vaccine, having (or not having) an abortion, injecting battery acid into her eyes while impaling herself on a giant horse cock and listening to mongolian propaganda, et cetera.
(DIR) Post #AKp8WaXPLdTBOLc2u8 by sjw@bae.st
2022-06-24T19:50:35.833051Z
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@dave I lean pro-choice but I feel strongly about this and am happy because it was a judicial overreach
(DIR) Post #AKp8ZDLg1NwCLANTkW by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T19:51:03.293297Z
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inb4 someone complains about my duplicate conjunctions in option 4
(DIR) Post #AKp8hGjhJKeJAASCy8 by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
2022-06-24T19:52:31.321949Z
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@dave Legally speaking, I don't think abortion is protected by the constitution in any obvious way. Morally speaking, I think promiscuity and abortion are wrong, but I have to confess that I'm not very deeply informed on the issue in any religious or philosophical way.
(DIR) Post #AKp9N6TPrCw1UqmpjE by NickolasGir@paypig.org
2022-06-24T20:00:05Z
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@dave Second. But I'm not conflicted. As something not covered by the constitution it goes to the states. If you want it legal there run for a state position.
(DIR) Post #AKpANEDf9r7nTT2dxw by fightknightHERO@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:11:18.358798Z
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@dave
(DIR) Post #AKpBeiuyNHtrYrCoeO by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T20:25:40.138639Z
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Lol in my original version of the poll I tried to include "why" in the responses and was gonna include this, but it was making the options balloon out of control, so I just simplified to "how do you feel" without getting into the "why" too much.
(DIR) Post #AKpBjiJS3I5D8G2ECm by greenpunk@spinster.xyz
2022-06-24T20:16:01.470409Z
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@dave Absolutely fucking devastated. š Women and girls will die. Our right to live comes second to the right of a dying fetus inside of us that still has a "heartbeat". We will be forced to carry a rotting dead body inside of us until we can prove that it is not viable.Our right to medical care that puts a fetus at risk will be truncated. We already have to endure unnecessary pregnancy tests before we can have an X-ray or CT. Women who refuse unnecessary medical intervention are already charged with child endangerment or murder for refusing a cesarean or for taking drugs (even prescription drugs) while pregnant.Girls raped by their male relatives will be forced to bear a high risk pregnancy before their bodies are ready.Those who need medical care will lose their savings, be forced to travel great distances, lose their jobs, have to take their children out of school because they can't afford childcare, just to access a safe simple procedure.I left Texas for a number of reasons, but chiefly among them was that if I became pregnant without realizing it I knew my body was no longer legally my property but that of a clump of cells. Even here in Colorado, I was forced to endure an medically unnecessary and invasive ultrasound, just to pay half my rent for two pills (and no pain medication). And I'm one of the lucky ones.The thing they refuse to acknowledge is that children will die.Mothers (including for wanted and planned pregnancies) will not have access to prenatal care either because it is harder to access or because they risk prison if something goes wrong.Children will be born to parents that never wanted them and we're not ready to be parents. This I believe is the main goal here: to produce children meant to be taken away to meet the high demand for infants for adoption.The goal is to kill women, body mind and soul. This is genocide.
(DIR) Post #AKpBp83nkbD4R1ITSa by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:27:31.998998Z
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@dave does this ruling upset you dave
(DIR) Post #AKpC6s6fnx6kAT6Iee by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T20:30:45.388977Z
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I'm option #2. I do feel for the women forced to have kids they didn't want and weren't ready for, but I also know there is no constitutional right to abortion.
(DIR) Post #AKpCDALitKsSU58pG4 by berkberkman@bae.st
2022-06-24T20:30:13.212348Z
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@dave Remember when ShoutYourAbortion was a thing? I wonder if it will make another resurgence just to spite everyone again.
(DIR) Post #AKpCIyUhshy9SC75F2 by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:32:56.667111Z
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@dave sure women should have a right to make the decision but the reason they are citing for NEEDING an overreaching abortion law is because SO many women are raped or have children of incest or otherwise was forced on them when in actual fact that's not the case at all and to pretend the needs of the perceived many outweigh the needs of the actual few is pretty dumb and this is why i dont support it. more than 70% are elective. just because you "dont want it" isnt enough justification
(DIR) Post #AKpCQj4n5a2Zx6gg7s by siinclaiir@bae.st
2022-06-24T20:34:21.690233Z
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@dave Abortion is killing a life and murder your own child is a no no.Roe vs Wade is a reach that whores like to cope with.If the hoe wants to kill their own bloodline and continue to be a cum dumpster then move to suitable place like California.If somebody wants to avoid getting a child then just jack off, why should my taxes go towards skanks and skallywags killing their own kids?moe ftw hoe btfo87f3cc182311a12c582b41a437e20c7a750d33219fa861903fd587d0c9ac2dfe.jpg
(DIR) Post #AKpCWCEQ7MAfp8nehU by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:35:20.693888Z
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@dave hoes mad :jahy_laugh: hoes mad :cirnolaughing: hoes mad :02_laugh:
(DIR) Post #AKpCZsu7uz0R2W4BMW by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:36:00.931066Z
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@dave Iām not satisfied that preventing infanticide is optional. Abortion is evil, period. The Supreme Court shouldāve affirmed an Americanās right to life as described in the Declaration of Independence.Itās all very tiresome.
(DIR) Post #AKpCd7bdiIeHVNxkx6 by HeWhoWalksBehindTheCorn01@freespeechextremist.com
2022-06-24T20:36:36.392064Z
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@dave Depends which race the baby is
(DIR) Post #AKpCgADkRsq2U1EqS8 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T20:37:07.501508Z
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This chart is misleading. What's going on here is that 75% of the women chose not to answer the question on the survey. To figure out the true distribution of motivations for the abortion, you would look at what percentage of the 25% that responded selected, which means ~80% chose to get an abortion for social/economic reasons, i.e. they weren't ready to have a kid.
(DIR) Post #AKpCiO9FdbEqG2CCbQ by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:37:31.493687Z
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@dave wrap those lips tighter around moloch cock baby murderer
(DIR) Post #AKpCrswAXBkOM1bZU8 by James10550088@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:39:15.975863Z
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@dave Iām just glad this ruling will deter transplants from shitting up my state.
(DIR) Post #AKpCwu7FZyOzSSBJR2 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:40:10.508507Z
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@dave @graf Don't have sex. Use a condom. Get a better job. Pretty much do anything that doesn't involve fetal dismemberment.
(DIR) Post #AKpDUVzVmUUKTwaYhk by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-06-24T20:46:14Z
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@dave @graf I disagree with your interpretation. There are plenty of women that simply don't want to have the baby, without what we'd consider a valid reason (so not even for social/economic reasons).
(DIR) Post #AKpDabf1cAhZnruXFg by WoodshopHandman@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:47:20.543373Z
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@dave @graf Actually those are reasons recorded by the state of Florida for the abortions taking place, not some post-op write-in anon surveyahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
(DIR) Post #AKpDbd8HcyXUer5I6S by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:47:29.326997Z
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@WoodshopHandman @dave gottem
(DIR) Post #AKpDzDelzxDsazWsim by PoastCosterBean@poa.st
2022-06-24T20:51:48.050497Z
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@graf @dave Adding to that, as that stat suggests there are reasons to get an abortion... but its been blown out of proportion... by people who are simply morally depraved who treat abortion akin to a walk in the park... and no, governments can mediate in a moral crisis and it isn't curbing freedom... its protecting the integrity of society... the very thing it was actually made for tbh but ig that has changed over the years in many places...
(DIR) Post #AKpDzxkMdV1lXeUzp2 by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T20:51:45.885626Z
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@greenpunk @dave deranged take. completely imaginary. all this does is leave it up to the states because the federal government has no legal authority
(DIR) Post #AKpEIPJItV7uF0dXTE by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T20:55:14.810399Z
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If she doesn't want the kid and is forced to give a "why?" answer, it's going to be something like I'd classify "I don't want to go through the hardship of pregnancy and spent the next 20 years raising this kid" though.Given that the vast majority of abortions are 1st-trimester (most common week is week 8 I think), and in most states you can't just say "I don't want it" once the baby has reached that stage of development where it has a meaningful capacity to feel pain, I'd still say that reason is valid provided we're acknowledging that what's "valid" depends on how far along the pregnancy is.
(DIR) Post #AKpEOw8fkeGZnJmGcy by theblessing@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T20:56:25.763659Z
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@alyx @dave @graf like who? there are also plenty of women that *do* have a valid socioeconomic reason. anecdotal statements like that mean nothing. what you consider a valid reason means nothing. itās not your life, youāre not making that decision. i also chose option 2. i recognize that the decision today was more about statesā rights and less about abortion as a whole, but as usual, we just canāt let the opportunity to argue about abortion slip by.
(DIR) Post #AKpEUhiUHo2QnmHPW4 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T20:57:27.290213Z
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She's not wrong that this is going to cause a lot of hardship for young women and teen girls in states without abortion access. Also if you hang out on fedi enough you remember there is still a segment of the population that sees casual sex as sinful, so I think there are at least *some* happy to see these women get punished for it.
(DIR) Post #AKpEyNIYlUauACIgYi by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:02:50.366515Z
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@dave if you arent ready to/cant have kids atm then dont have sex. its literally so easy. young teens shouldnt be getting pregnant. i say fuck em. they chose this by doing the naughty tango.
(DIR) Post #AKpF2rchxXtTNBrhYm by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:03:38.526921Z
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> i say fuck em. they chose this by doing the naughty tango.@meowski ahem
(DIR) Post #AKpF30j47HKJbVuPDc by caekislove@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:03:41.186480Z
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@dave If he's mad and losing, then I am happy and winning.
(DIR) Post #AKpF6l1WRHwO3wKQCG by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:04:21.817468Z
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@dave @meowski is that nigga an expert or sumn?
(DIR) Post #AKpF9gigtf1DaEux72 by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-06-24T21:04:53.805376Z
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@theblessing @alyx @dave @graf No "socioeconomic reason" is valid. None. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yZDOqIt1M
(DIR) Post #AKpFA1gGxqYuaowol6 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:04:56.312024Z
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And "Elective abortion" is the "I choose not to answer" response
(DIR) Post #AKpFBbd8n4HqNUEhU0 by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:05:13.633722Z
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@dave @WoodshopHandman would you have aborted me
(DIR) Post #AKpFEKwpGvRxVTkJ84 by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:05:44.058076Z
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@graf @dave >social or economic reasonsSo reasons that were known and existed before the sex happened... hmm
(DIR) Post #AKpFIXdM31xM0fdwW0 by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:06:28.892686Z
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@DrRyanSkelton @dave the price of bacon is more than double its average from just 6 months ago? im sorry babe we cant afford to have sex
(DIR) Post #AKpFZRLAhQ7BPlCDfk by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:09:30.591413Z
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He was responding to someone else in the thread talking about how women and girls would suffer for this and pro-lifers knew and were fine with that, and meowski called that take delusional.
(DIR) Post #AKpFZZE1Nt9Hrtucdc by WoodshopHandman@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:09:34.259688Z
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@dave @graf Do you really think the people that cry about the stigma and being shamed for abortions would say "I'm just killing my baby because I want to" instead of any of the other options that would at least provide some degree of justification for their actions if it wasn't their actual deranged reasoning for the operation?To rephrase: Do you think anyone in those other categories would actually choose "elective abortion" over the category they truly belong to? Why?
(DIR) Post #AKpFi7oWfTGXSb4G7U by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:11:07.031100Z
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@dave @meowski ah. well they should. its called consequences for actions. if you cant get preggers dont have sex. simple as. case closed. if you do have sex you should feel the full force of the consequences. idgf.
(DIR) Post #AKpFjfHXihvLY6NH2O by caekislove@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:11:23.308331Z
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@greenpunk @dave Liberals leaving Texas over this isn't a con, it's a pro. I can't wait until the Supremes repeal gay marriage next and Texas bans that too!
(DIR) Post #AKpFkm5Bv82gvm7srg by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:11:35.807991Z
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@e @dave BURN IT DOWN! BURN IT DOWN! BURN IT DOWN!
(DIR) Post #AKpFmdCbuNJ9y5TvtY by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:11:55.991053Z
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@dave @fightknightHERO Should also have included: "makes shitlibs seethe, no other reason necessary".
(DIR) Post #AKpFovmfnEWqB3Rjou by Turdicus@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:12:20.989656Z
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@dave
(DIR) Post #AKpG3L3ubfvId7NcAa by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:14:55.927947Z
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> Do you think anyone in those other categories would actually choose "elective abortion" over the category they truly belong to? Why?Because it's a private matter, and if you go into a Florida abortion clinic, you're going to be dealing with med techs that are supportive and on your side. Thus, "Since this is 1st trimester you don't need to give a reason if you don't want to sweetie, just select that top option if you want" or thereabouts is probably a oft-repeated phrase.
(DIR) Post #AKpG5PTBBsBqsYBbKC by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:15:19.627214Z
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@WoodshopHandman @dave @graf right. if you have to answer, why not just say "economic"? it's not like it's any skin off your back? You don't have to prove it, no?
(DIR) Post #AKpG6R1OuDztyvgJua by apropos@freespeechextremist.com
2022-06-24T21:15:31.155724Z
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@dave "pro-life" is some kind of bundle of positions that's supposed to also include my not liking the death penalty (in principle). I'm just opposed to infanticide. I think the proper default is a total ban on infanticide, and if women are ever in such a bad situation that they break the law then we can be charitable about that. You know, like we already are super charitable anytime a woman commits a crime that isn't "being a cop and mistaking a gun for a taser".I'm pleased with the ruling as it's a ruling in 100% accordance with a non-liberal court. It's only from such a court that gun ruling from yesterday would've come out. With this overturn of a half-century-old obviously bad "settled law", I'm more hopeful that we'll soon see an overturn of a half-century-old obviously bad (so bad that they said at the time that it should only be temporary) approval of anti-white interpretations of affirmative action.But I'm definitely not "very pro-life and very happy". Roe v. Wade going away is just good start. I'll be much happier if Planned Parenthood and their co-conspirators get nailed to the wall for trafficking in aborted baby parts.
(DIR) Post #AKpGBQClMzgkteNG1Q by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:16:23.726514Z
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I DMed @caekislove asking for his reaction, and this was basically his response, but I didn't wait long enough for his reply so it got submitted before he responded. Would have definitely included this if I had waited a bit longer, though.
(DIR) Post #AKpGCI6ay8qC49u5uC by graf@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:16:32.624129Z
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@dave @WoodshopHandman dave I'd wager more than 90% of the business they get are repeat drive-by abortions i highly doubt any of those women are of sound moral mind enough to be bothered by telling a tech why they want the doctor to break the limbs off the fetus in their body to pull it out
(DIR) Post #AKpGMPF7HrD369iFjk by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2022-06-24T21:18:23.944697Z
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@dave @WoodshopHandman @graf >if you go into a Florida abortion clinic, you're going to be dealing with med techs that are supportive and on your sidenot for long
(DIR) Post #AKpGOvddoPWG9OO2ca by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-06-24T21:18:51.177210Z
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It should have always been a state issue regardless of view
(DIR) Post #AKpGevQ8OE906lhGIC by internetrando@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:21:44.943649Z
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@dave My choice would be "I'm glad the demon hoes are screaming"
(DIR) Post #AKpGi5e4pXkygljAEi by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:22:16.791858Z
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@dave @greenpunk not being able to murder a baby up to the moment of birth is not a hardship
(DIR) Post #AKpGiQMln5OGxAn8fw by Webzenin@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:20:11.298028Z
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@dave While the victory is nice, it will be short lived. It is the will of the ruling elite to use abortion as targeted genocide.
(DIR) Post #AKpGiQniAuwQIjOefY by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:22:21.202885Z
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You know it was disproportionately black and hispanic people getting abortions before this, right?
(DIR) Post #AKpGrrlpGw1uYI0uRs by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:24:03.577502Z
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Correct, but most pro-choicers, including myself, don't advocate for elective late-term abortions. That's not the hardship. Not being able to get an abortion at all is the hardship.
(DIR) Post #AKpGvFlkVAkLqraoU4 by penguin@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:24:41.917927Z
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@dave @Webzenin Few understand this š
(DIR) Post #AKpH3V1LgFqtTDozFA by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:26:09.943218Z
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Pro-lifers are the majority in these parts of fedi, which is about what I was expecting.Really wish I had made option #3 "Mixed feelings about the ruling itself, but I'm enjoying the seething"
(DIR) Post #AKpH5cLPQGjilNDMCO by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:26:33.044344Z
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@dave @greenpunk i think there are 2 states where abortion will be completely illegal now. every other state at least has some exception for rape or incest or life threatening pregnanciesif baby murdering libshit feminists don't like it they should move
(DIR) Post #AKpHBvVX5S9xvzxSlM by thatguyoverthere@charlestown.social
2022-06-24T21:27:41.868893Z
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I am pro life, but regardless of my feelings I don't think the court is the place for these decisions to be made.
(DIR) Post #AKpHCbA2Dlv37UDt5M by WoodshopHandman@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:27:49.889010Z
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@dave @graf idk man, I would think that as a medical facility you'd want to have the appropriate responses for those other answers considering that most of them involve potentially severe medical risks. I'm not saying that there's not a number of women that would choose "elective abortion" over their actual condition, specifically for the incest and rape categories, but I do not think that, statistically speaking, it's anywhere near enough to outweigh the number of genuine "I'm just here because I want to kill the baby" responses.
(DIR) Post #AKpHRwC2J1aUh5TPjk by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:30:35.141508Z
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@dave @greenpunk and this still remains to be seen whether those few states will continue to have medical exemptions for these casesso the examples given are not really issues. it's not "killing women" or whatever. as usual feminists making stuff up to play the victim whilst actually victimizing others, namely their own children
(DIR) Post #AKpHcb2JJ5YwGL0Tqa by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2022-06-24T21:32:27.834415Z
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@meowski @dave @greenpunk Don't forget there are also states that allow full term abortions now too, so you have to vote with your feet sadly. However that's nothing new for 2020s. I just shared a post this week wrapping up the major companies leaving Chicago for TX, FL, etc. Not everyone enjoys getting mugged and stabbed on the way to the office. After a dozen times or so it's hard to hire new employees even if you're as big as Citadel, CAT, and Boeing.
(DIR) Post #AKpHfZ94nGIvGbaTwG by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:32:58.016739Z
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@salt @dave to this people are always going to say "what if a 12 year old girl is raped by her dad. you think she should be forced to carry that baby to term"and they'd be right. this isn't a black and white issue
(DIR) Post #AKpHkH8TBHJurHY7X6 by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:33:54.506182Z
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@thendrix @dave @greenpunk it's good for libtards to have to live in their own filth rather than shitting up conservative states
(DIR) Post #AKpHloyWqqPU6FdXMm by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:34:11.496212Z
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@meowski @dave yeah. but rape as a whole is .02% or less of abortions. and that specific case is even less. fuck em! (not like fuck them but fuck em)
(DIR) Post #AKpHtCEclrpIGVgLOy by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-06-24T21:35:26Z
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@dave I'm pro life & happy but understand that that is not what this ruling was about. SCOTUS did not take a moral stance, only a judicial one.
(DIR) Post #AKpHuLc9Nrpde2EdQe by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2022-06-24T21:35:40.607397Z
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@meowski @dave @greenpunk Well, that's the fun part as the latinos are going harder to the right now more than ever. So the latte neolibs in office jobs can't even swarm into Southern states as the populations are too big. TX went from 'purple' to hard red. Now they just need to tar and feather their shitty (R) Senators that don't support gun rights. :3
(DIR) Post #AKpI09muGeLEhe2JAu by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:36:45.745331Z
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@salt @dave point being there will always been a need for these exceptions so the slippery slope argument doesn't really work. if it's a medically necessary thing, i don't object to it, but personally i think most abortions should be banned.morning after pill i'm ok with. between there and viability i think there is some gray areabut all rational reasonable people should agree that when a baby can survive on its own it shouldn't be "aborted" (murdered in the womb)sadly in some states it's legal
(DIR) Post #AKpI3Bag1OGVA9lCDI by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-06-24T21:31:51Z
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@dave Roe V. Wade was a judicial fraud from the start. It never should have gotten this far.Used to be pro-choice. Even then, I'd say the same thing. It's less about what I like and more about following The Constitution.
(DIR) Post #AKpIJV3hPJCOAw79JQ by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:40:12.008488Z
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@meowski @dave we can compromise on condoms and birth control. but if those fail then suck it up. you dont get to play the lottery and not risk losing your money.
(DIR) Post #AKpIOYvOSd81c6dwxc by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T21:41:10.577104Z
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> every other state at least has some exception for rape or incest or life threatening pregnanciesIf "this pregnancy is still early enough" isn't one of the exceptions, then it's still a ban for the majority of women that would seek them. And way more than 2 states have such a ban now, [it's actually 13](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695), plus several more states where the limit is 6 weeks, which is way before the fetus has a functioning nervous system, and in a lot of cases not enough time because the first sign that most women pick up that they might be pregnant is missing their period, which is around Week 5.I don't think it's accurate to characterize someone as "a baby-murdering libshit feminist" for taking issue with this.
(DIR) Post #AKpIZSaANjof81uXj6 by Degenerate3skimo@thebag.social
2022-06-24T21:26:49.577850Z
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Pro life, abortion is an obvious NAP violation. I also am very cool with degenerates killing their own though. I hope California sees a huge uptick in abortions and Arkansas drops to like 4 all of which are in liberal areas.
(DIR) Post #AKpIfKk0RryAXxJXbE by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:44:10.832908Z
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@dave @greenpunk politico is pretty hard left. i don't think you can trust that source on this issue
(DIR) Post #AKpIk76wYIC9ioK2Rk by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:45:04.682671Z
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@salt @dave you're missing the point
(DIR) Post #AKpIsgjbzJdYWVUuwK by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:46:38.465078Z
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@meowski @dave there are not enough cases of such a thing to make laws around it imo. abortion should only be allowed if medically necessary.also sorry im not very smart.
(DIR) Post #AKpJ97YW2HEWLB8wcK by meowski@fluf.club
2022-06-24T21:49:33.020246Z
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@salt @dave there are plenty of cases of incest especially in some rural areas. regardless all i'm saying is it's not a black and white issue
(DIR) Post #AKpJATNQOIGyJ6bGzY by Bill_Boone@poa.st
2022-06-24T21:48:37.564871Z
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@meowski @dave @salt Right, mostly a black issue...It'd probably be an even bigger black issue, but for the most part the father isn't around to impregnate the 12 yr old black girls.
(DIR) Post #AKpJEQ1Eoj6H3F6VvM by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:50:33.878853Z
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@roboneko @dave @e its murder
(DIR) Post #AKpJRoh6O1l7LR4fPU by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:52:59.537548Z
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@e @dave @roboneko well yes. of course. why wouldnt i?
(DIR) Post #AKpJdZGjYypGylLP1M by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:55:05.976604Z
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@e @dave @roboneko abortion is gay. its murder. genocide. satanic sacrifice
(DIR) Post #AKpJoeZGCcqgbAIOmG by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:57:07.220837Z
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@e @dave @roboneko do i cry every night about other people being murdered? no. but it doesnt matter. its still wrong.
(DIR) Post #AKpJxGUn4UZCXwJMwq by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:58:40.601838Z
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@e @dave @roboneko i do care. i dont like murder. especially of children. i dont need to be an emotional mess over it to care. i even went to DC for the big march thing. so i must care about it.
(DIR) Post #AKpJyjdSDSZFDA44aO by HoleRipper@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T21:58:56.563556Z
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@salt @e @dave @robonekoWhere else will we find infant carcasses for the blood rituals to Moloch?
(DIR) Post #AKpKBj6hUXHLKywIQy by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T22:01:17.377119Z
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@e @dave @roboneko no. unborn child is still child. btfo
(DIR) Post #AKpKNcjqzlVh3pvTHc by salt@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-24T22:03:24.885412Z
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@e @dave @roboneko i do. its just because its been around so long and i cant do anything about it. emotional disconnect. like other county's issues. idgf about war over seas. or such things.
(DIR) Post #AKpKiNgq8moQTBPjlY by cully45@freeatlantis.com
2022-06-24T22:07:10Z
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@dave The bigger problem is the fact that for the last fifty years the behavior of I can have sex and have an abotion if I want too. Allowing free sex to be your only determination of who you are and ruling over you the gains you nothing as a being human.
(DIR) Post #AKpLDiM7M7jVXZf7iq by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-24T22:12:49.905134Z
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(DIR) Post #AKpN9rY3R6LYnhXL0a by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-06-24T22:34:33.752744Z
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I used to be pro-choice because I thought it would be inconvenient to be stuck with a baby you didn't really want, but a few things changed my mind.1. Realizing that as a man, I never had abortion rights. Not only do I not have a choice as to whether a baby I fathered was born, but even if my sperm is stolen, or I'm raped, or I'm taken advantage of as a child by an adult, or in some places even if I'm not the father, I will be held legally responsible for that child until an arbitrary point after that child has become an adult. The law where I live says that until the baby passes through the holy birthing canal it is not alive (which is a highly religious view not backed by science), and afterwards it is not only alive, but sancrosanct and to be protected above all else. Amazing what a couple inches will do!2. Realizing that as a man living under the above regime, I chose to wait until I was ready and willing to take that responsibility should I impregnate a woman, so it isn't really that big of a deal. I won't ask anyone to do anything I didn't do willingly.3. Seeing my son on the ultrasound at 13 weeks was the final straw. I saw a human being with arms and legs and a brain and his own blood flowing through his own veins, moving on his own. He was kicking and it wasn't because his mother was kicking. You can't look at such a thing and say "It's just a clump of cells" or similar without it being a purely religious, anti-scientific statement. Yet at that moment, it was legal to murder that innocent defenseless life in all 50 states.I realized that the idea of saying "just get rid of it, it's inconvenient" is pure evil. You don't just murder people because they're inconvenient, and "Don't worry, they're also completely defenseless which makes it ok" doesn't mitigate that at all. None of us have the right to murder inconvenient people.Just as all rights must be balanced against each other, you can't just say "no never under any circumstances", but you are required to balance the rights of the innocent defenseless human someone thoughtlessly created against the rights of the woman who houses that human. There are circumstances where a woman is going to die or be critically injured if a baby is born, or worse the woman will die and the baby will die anyway, or the baby will be born just long enough to die horribly.It changes the character of sex, to be sure, but the character of sex needs to change. You're doing this thing that can potentially create a life, and it should be treated with respect as something wonderful but also potentially life altering in ways you may or may not want. We hold men responsible for those consequences, we should hold women equally responsible.This court decision is being painted as extreme, but it is not. It's a moderate, middle of the road solution. The previous decision forcibly legalized abortion, creating new law out of whole cloth. All this does is reverse that and return to there being no law where there is no law. A more extreme decision would have taken the opposing stance of deciding a standard.The congress, the senate, and the executive could potentially create a federal law to deal with this, and they've had 50 years to do so including times that the Democrats controlled everything such as Obama's first term where he had a supermajority, but they never did and they won't now because it's more politically expedient to just kick the can down the road and hope some future court does the hard work for them. No wonder they're upset they don't have the supreme court any longer, now they actually have to do what their constituents sent them to Washington to do and actually make laws instead of just take money from lobbyists.
(DIR) Post #AKpNKZORHDBzgA92Cu by bebe@poa.st
2022-06-24T22:36:30.071157Z
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@meowski @dave @greenpunk Yes hopefully it will be completely illegal in all the states soon. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AKpSOcfLYB2ol4nyJU by bebe@poa.st
2022-06-24T23:33:15.543820Z
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@dave I think that the rhetoric that the conservatives have in the supreme court is that you should interpret the constitution as it was originally intended. I know that someday abortion will be completely outlawed as we know Christ will triumph, but I think that it is good that the supreme court is sticking to their role rather than trying to legislate from the bench. It is the duty of congress and the state legislators to pass laws, not the supreme court, and much of the problems in our country have come from the courts legislating, such as gay marriage or the striking down of fornication laws and prayer in school and things like this. So I think that it was a good decision. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AKpSgCGCSqaY4jQHRo by Frondeur@poa.st
2022-06-24T23:36:15.709868Z
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@bebe @dave If I had a kid as polite as bebe, iād be the proudest parent in the world.
(DIR) Post #AKpSjjwHhhNVOfnTwu by bebe@poa.st
2022-06-24T23:37:04.537337Z
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@Frondeur @dave Yes thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AKpWXQBlhzxUU5QAjo by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T00:19:40.310083Z
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@dave @graf maybe they should get a job if they want sexoh wait thats for men nvm
(DIR) Post #AKpWblj3ZpQARE43TE by graf@poa.st
2022-06-25T00:20:18.175869Z
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@Dave @dave what do you mean the childbirth and 18 years of life are also the responsibility of the man.............
(DIR) Post #AKpWiL436N2rmC14CG by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T00:21:38.583616Z
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@graf @dave right the man keeps the child and the woman alive and in return has to go to work and nobody can figure out why men wont get married
(DIR) Post #AKpXBkPhvsZ4nHAbYG by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T00:26:56.622358Z
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Also she can get a divorce even if there was no cheating or abuse and now he's on the hook for alimony *and* child support because he was the breadwinner.This argument does ignore the reality that often there *was* abuse, but as someone that has analyzed this issue from a similar mindset, marriage is certainly less attractive now than it used to be for these types of reasons.
(DIR) Post #AKpXDngmj2gbX18XIm by graf@poa.st
2022-06-25T00:27:18.600406Z
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@dave @Dave you're the abuse in this situation right now dave
(DIR) Post #AKpXLNkb3307OwXDUm by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T00:28:41.936186Z
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@dave @graf yeah honestly im a bastard kid and i would off myself if my wife had another man's kid so quite frankly i wont get married or have a kid until the laws change. if my goal was to reproduce i could have started achieving that age 13-14. im 32 now.
(DIR) Post #AKpXLP6G1zvDaPg1tg by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T00:28:41.510569Z
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Is this a meta thing about how you wish you saw less of me on your feed?
(DIR) Post #AKpXPH9PWn325gzw8G by graf@poa.st
2022-06-25T00:29:23.359458Z
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@dave @Dave no i would just mute you im just fucking around since my users dunk both on and off the platform on you and shitty takes every day i was just adding my 2c
(DIR) Post #AKpXcQUs5fTOqGJ5EW by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T00:31:46.784690Z
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@graf @dave fucking around you think we got time for that!!
(DIR) Post #AKpbUNzluIqMaEBKLI by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T01:15:06.883489Z
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My takes aren't that shitty, they're just directly at odds with the views of a lot of your users, and unfortunately most people that share my politics also hang out on instances that block all the other instances that tolerate offensive opinions.So the result is I always get outnumbered, and for your users there's usually little incentive to be civil and rational, so either they strawman what I say and point out how dumb the strawman is, and then get likes for it, or they explain how my take means I'm a bad person, and then also get likes for it. I suspect most of the people complaining about my takes would struggle if put on the spot and asked to actually summarize my takes in a way I wouldn't object to (and link back to the original posts in question if necessary).
(DIR) Post #AKpbeSSOAqVLJgMza4 by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:16:57.934887Z
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@dave @graf >and unfortunately most people that share my politics also hang out on instances that block all the other instances that tolerate offensive opinions.yeah wonder why that is>or they explain how my take means I'm a bad personif you can't handle the banter something else is going on, maybe you're not a bad person but people who need to hide their ideas and ways of thinking are, most often.
(DIR) Post #AKpbjTDwkWk78x0LkO by graf@poa.st
2022-06-25T01:17:51.458050Z
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@Dave @dave dave just has really shitty opinions 99% of the timemost of the time he's fine but he is definitely abrasive to the only people who put up with him thats for sure
(DIR) Post #AKpboAPM8NmCEba4Qq by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:18:43.432160Z
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@graf @dave dave is an asshole you mean me right :0100:
(DIR) Post #AKpbrOcNl325AvDIVE by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:19:18.214483Z
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@graf @dave nvm u didnt say that
(DIR) Post #AKpbtFgFxTSk2EuW0W by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:19:38.510806Z
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@graf @dave ya hes alright cuz he can go back and forth and doesnt need to call adam or have john block
(DIR) Post #AKpcAbGEyZzbt90vqK by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T01:22:45.173697Z
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I say again, my opinions aren't shitty, they're just at odds with the views of most of your users. They don't know how to meaningfully engage with conflicting opinions, or don't care to, so they look for ways to dismiss them that aren't intellectually honest.
(DIR) Post #AKpcHnbFUznqBSH0Vc by graf@poa.st
2022-06-25T01:24:03.692595Z
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@dave @Dave im not particularly against abortion, im not religious and yeah your opinions are often shit even with someone who doesnt care. you are abrasive to people who arent on poast, too. that's why you have the issue you have. you're fine here but i do wonder sometimes if you are a low effort seed troll or something
(DIR) Post #AKpcJdhDIAJK2xwNdI by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:24:24.658854Z
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@dave @graf intellectual honesty means proving something after it's happened not before or during. im not here to debate all day when i already know whats best cause i live it.
(DIR) Post #AKpcQiL4QcRcTPxOZE by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T01:25:40.054793Z
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Ok, I'm throwing down the gauntlet. What are some shit opinions that you think I hold?
(DIR) Post #AKpcaFDjXojn3o4NgO by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-06-25T01:27:23.093889Z
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@dave @graf @Dave Your opinions are cookie cutter Zionist Devil Machine talking points.You can act like an uppity jewlatto hambeast about it all you want but the only people who side with you are irony poisoned subhumans.Sorry you sold your soul for nothing I guess
(DIR) Post #AKpccU5jE3vRlEOS0G by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:27:49.022241Z
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@dave @graf the elites are eating the aborted fetuses so having any number of abortions is condoning cannibalism. and the only reason the woman needs the abortion in the first place is cuz it came from some amount of incest.but of course most women will LIE because women also have proportionally larger Prefrontal Cortex than men do which means they are better at lying and lie more which means theyre probably engaging in incest and infidelity a lot more than they say on surveys.but anyways i cant prove most of that so you can ask me for a source and i can say nigger for the fun of it
(DIR) Post #AKpcf8UXzPDxdhGaSO by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:28:17.771705Z
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@RoyalJohnny242 @dave @graf bro get specific come on man no need to just start bashing the guy
(DIR) Post #AKpcgkhRQ0xMQe4IRE by GrantTK@poa.st
2022-06-25T01:28:35.281969Z
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@dave I already issued my press release today. poa.st/@GrantTK/posts/AKpIKWXXqKR70ohqHA
(DIR) Post #AKpcmLPiLNxRk9RXU0 by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-06-25T01:29:33.816163Z
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@Dave @dave @graf >using your sock account to make it look like people agree with youCome on man, this is embarrassing lmao
(DIR) Post #AKpcoL6sRcZJNdaFKy by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:29:57.377160Z
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@RoyalJohnny242 @dave @graf i have schizophrenia but this is far gone
(DIR) Post #AKpdml60xRgbLjzS4G by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T01:40:51.405473Z
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Given that states can't pass racially discriminatory abortion policies, what do you consider the ideal abortion policy?
(DIR) Post #AKpeLCGoQnu3TUSioK by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:47:06.011259Z
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@dave @GrantTK abortion state issue, only in event of rape or incest and arrests will be made.
(DIR) Post #AKpeR5rHBQwnKHKUoy by GirthyChode@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:48:10.167212Z
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@Dave @dave @GrantTK big disagree, bodily autonomy is a human right. Not your call to make
(DIR) Post #AKpeU308GLlbKjseX2 by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:48:42.113308Z
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@GirthyChode @GrantTK @dave im fine with zero abortion too, you are your own abortion doctor.
(DIR) Post #AKpemF429T7pxUNhDc by GirthyChode@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:51:59.514653Z
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@Dave @GrantTK @dave state mandatory abortion for all women, no reproduction until the world population is below 4 billion
(DIR) Post #AKpeqRJGZ3nV61VX3g by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T01:52:44.700127Z
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@GirthyChode @GrantTK @dave :0080: bruh...yes!
(DIR) Post #AKpgSac4WV7SuN3itc by GrantTK@poa.st
2022-06-25T02:10:50.901608Z
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@dave Taking away as many women's rights as possible until we can expel the non-Whites seems to be the best path forward practically. Ideally if we return to the ethnostate as the founders intended, I think elective abortion should be illegal and the state could order or permit abortions where it best served the public interest. Also a blind eye could be turned on wives and mistresses of the elite having discreet abortions, as it has done traditionally.
(DIR) Post #AKpgUYY3AgOP5E7EZ6 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T02:11:10.812238Z
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> the elites are eating the aborted fetuses so having any number of abortions is condoning cannibalismThis isn't true because believing that women should have abortion access doesn't mean you believe that people should be able to eat aborted fetuses.> and the only reason the woman needs the abortion in the first place is cuz it came from some amount of incest.> but of course most women will LIE because women also have proportionally larger Prefrontal Cortex than men do which means they are better at lying and lie more which means theyre probably engaging in incest and infidelity a lot more than they say on surveys.I could believe that incest is more common than the absurdly low numbers from that data seem to imply, especially in Florida where you would expect it to be more tolerated, but I don't believe a substantial portion of abortions are motivated by incest.
(DIR) Post #AKpggeK9WSueTJNj1s by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T02:13:23.394422Z
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@dave @graf here are the global consanguinity rates, i guess you can choose not to believe these things which makes debate entirely pointless. eating a human brain and drinking human blood provides the user with a psychedelic high which is why the elites drink it, also has a hydrating effect especially for people with tay sachsbut i get it you know everything already because you study official statistics and wont remember a single thing i just typed.
(DIR) Post #AKpgq6eHa7CovRJ4lM by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T02:15:04.590847Z
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Bro, I have no problem believing that incest is much more common in shithole countries. I thought we were talking in local terms because you were questioning the official reported incest rate.
(DIR) Post #AKphAnhVE17MExgGPI by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T02:18:49.864555Z
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@dave @graf how do you calculate incest in event of cuckolding. can dad fuck the bastard kids? not technically related, right? or maybe only partially?abortioncuckoldingpedophiliaand incestall related, and the elites benefit in the form of a fucked up easily controlled society of abused bastard kids, many aborted fetuses that result.id consider it the biggest problem facing humanity. 1/3 paternity tests show daddy isnt the father. how do you go to work knowing 1/3 chance your wife is cheating. and that's just for one kid, imagine having two or three. and imagine knowing about line-breeding because i do it with animals.genetics and reproduction isn't as simple as you make it seem which is why you miss the deeper issue of abortion.
(DIR) Post #AKpkOTx9k5cOuYDZa4 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T02:54:54.315175Z
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(DIR) Post #AKpvSAUKiK1I16fXAO by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2022-06-25T04:58:50.200248Z
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@dave I think the availability of abortion may have down stream effects on society, and determining and regulating those effects for the health and welfare of citizens is best left to a legislature in our system. In addition, maybe people will pay more attention to local politics.
(DIR) Post #AKpvgrmwWPCqMdNl9U by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T05:01:29.085321Z
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I definitely wish people would pay more attention to local politics.
(DIR) Post #AKpxFqnuH1nROt4vy4 by NathanielHigger1488@poa.st
2022-06-25T05:19:01.962255Z
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@dave Shitposts aside I think the government shouldn't be able to tell you that you can't get one, paradoxically I am personally against it. I think the people who are getting abortions as a form of birth control are abhorrent and I'm slipping towards saying fuck it let the government ban it.
(DIR) Post #AKq00gut3IxeFno4O0 by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T05:49:53Z
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@dave I'm pro-life morally with some moral-based exceptions like rape, but pro-choice legally because, just like drugs and guns, the more regulation gets put on them, the more dangerous they become.I'm not a huge fan of the federal government having power, so any measure to give power back to the states is a good one as long as it doesn't diminish our natural rights such as the right to bare arms or the right to speak freely. To be clear, abortion is not a natural right; there is nothing natural about abortion. Speaking and protecting yourself to the fullest extent are both natural rights.If man cannot speak, he must fight to be able to speak. If man cannot fight, he can only kneel and be succumbed to slavery. If woman cannot get abortions, she must... not have sex that will lead to pregnancy....? It's not a natural right. I believe you have the natural right to bare children, not destroy them.To add to that, because I heard they were also thinking of taking away gay marriage being protected federally, legal marriage is also not a fundamental, natural right. Leave it to the states to decide what is best for their own people, because New York is drastically different than Idaho. For that reason, the federal government should not be putting wide, blanket laws down on literally the most diverse country in the world. All that considered then, I'm glad they repealed it. I want the federal government to have less power. I want the power to be given back to the states, unless, as I said, it deals with unalienable natural rights. I'm certain my state would uphold those, but many states already don't.
(DIR) Post #AKq0HUENTE5zphvpnE by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T05:52:55Z
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@fightknightHERO @dave more black babies get aborted in New York than get born :meru_tea:
(DIR) Post #AKq0QGrWXme0yeQmKu by MaleGoddess@poa.st
2022-06-25T05:54:31.766372Z
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@dave I think they should've ramped up abortion.... for niggers, all breeds of niggers. Mesoniggers, shekelniggers, prairieniggers, nigger niggers.
(DIR) Post #AKq1bLYNXgZSfNJy3U by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T06:07:41Z
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@theblessing @dave @graf You and Dave seemingly want to pretend that there aren't women out there that are completely horrible and that would abort a baby for only selfish reasons, not because they can't take care of it. Please don't be that kind of person that refuses to accept reality, just because it's not in their favor. You have plenty of cases of this in the US, and you can find them on twitter "shouting" their abortions. As for my position on all this, I think abortions are highly immoral. The only thing that excuses it for me is if the parents are simply unfit to have the baby at that time, so socio-economical reasons. Wanting your precious career advancement is not that. It's selfish and inexcusable. That's not a valid reason for me. Same goes for "well I don't feel like it". Rape and incest cases are pretty clear cut. You're traumatizing the women if you force her to carry. And medical necessities are again clear cut. That being said, I wouldn't put a blanket ban on abortions. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna accept a woman that doesn't have a good reason for doing it.
(DIR) Post #AKq1uJXfFGl3vi20DA by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T06:11:09Z
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@BlinkRape @dave i always thought it was weird that people who were non-traditionalist wanted some traditional recognition from the state that their marriage was legitimate.like who the fuck cares, pretty much the only reason to get legally married at this point is to be able to steal each others' shit if you divorce.
(DIR) Post #AKq3H5avMqOBHryp0a by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2022-06-25T06:26:28.826210Z
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@dave I'm pro-eugenics, but on our terms, which won't happen for awhile. Personally I'm indifferent to the current happening besides laughing at liberals flipping out.
(DIR) Post #AKqJx1jDjMV4j2sbo0 by Publius@paypig.org
2022-06-25T09:33:19Z
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@dave I'm pro choice but from a very machiavellian point of view that it is eugenics against the poor and stupid. I'm not looking forward to seeing in the future those millions of abused and emotionally stunted young men raised by single mothers who would have aborted them otherwise. The crime rates going to sky rocket.But atleast I get to see women be upset for a few days until the news cycle makes them forget. So that's something
(DIR) Post #AKqvW3bWocPDPUaQkK by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-06-25T16:34:14.576590Z
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Dang those options just barely fit in the bubbles lol
(DIR) Post #AKqvZwk2GzPPHfQ7xw by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T16:34:56.945949Z
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Submitting a bug report for this
(DIR) Post #AKqviBJnxb3OoI4tWa by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-06-25T16:36:26.201649Z
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I'm very pro life, but think there are fringe cases where abortion should be allowed even tho I disagree with it, like for the sake of the life of the mother, so am I "very pro life", or only "lean pro life"?
(DIR) Post #AKqxkXdAAtMeUvNyKW by demitasse@pleroma.narrativerry.xyz
2022-06-25T16:59:16.487065Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dave diet pro life
(DIR) Post #AKqzw5ExkrW3pWhJNQ by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T17:23:45.329460Z
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"Lean pro-life" I would say is that you accept most of the cases for abortion that go beyond just "I'm not ready", such as rape, incest, health of the mother, extremely young mother (often closely related to at least one of the other three exceptions), medical futility (baby won't survive once born, maybe because of a congenital defect that caused it to fail to develop certain organs), and so on. Also maybe you are OK with the morning after pill, which implies there is *some* stage of the process where you think it's early enough to terminate the pregnancy.If you only reluctantly accept the idea that an abortion can be performed to save the life of the mother, and that's the only exception, then I would say you very pro-life.
(DIR) Post #AKr0c3PuvMLEKzpnhQ by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-06-25T17:31:22.003167Z
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Yeah I think abortion should be banned in all circumstances except for the case of life of the mother. I disagree with even that, but from an objective standpoint you can't even call it murder because you're taking a life to save a life, and somebody will die either way
(DIR) Post #AKr4CbvYOQB5emktea by Mek101@mstdn.io
2022-06-25T17:57:06Z
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@dave Not putting it into law was dumb
(DIR) Post #AKr4CcIb0kbqoFXIZM by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T18:11:33.552970Z
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Not really. The SCOTUS finding was that there is no constitutional right to abortion, therefore the 10th Amendment applies, therefore the federal government doesn't get to regulate it. This finding would have also meant any federal laws mandating abortion access would be thrown out.If you find this surprising given how much power over our lives the federal government *does* have, it's because in past court battles over federal vs. state jurisdiction, SCOTUS has a history of ignoring or downplaying the 10th Amendment when it's convenient, in favor of the interstate commerce clause and the general welfare clause.
(DIR) Post #AKr4DZ8iF8lDIgMjr6 by Mek101@mstdn.io
2022-06-25T18:07:59Z
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@dave @Webzenin Feelings don't care about facts, dave
(DIR) Post #AKr4LwZb09e4ILw2JU by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T18:13:15.567780Z
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Which of us is the older account? How does Johnny know I'm not *your* sock, huh?
(DIR) Post #AKrBtZ8RLi3Z81DEiu by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T19:37:46.296019Z
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Final results, for those with federation issues
(DIR) Post #AKrBwyzDgueEAoWrmi by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T19:38:23Z
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@dave Not too surprised by the result.
(DIR) Post #AKrCfgT9Nu4Lm4qOeG by Marshall1Banana@poa.st
2022-06-25T19:46:28.716407Z
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@dave Most blacks live in blue areas so they can keep getting abortions. Lots of whites live in red areas so they wont have abortions (unless they travel to a blue area, which is at least SOME type of barrier to entry). I see this as a win.I wish more Mexicans would live in blue areas so they can get abortions too.
(DIR) Post #AKrEIB5s4UnbiGsHwW by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-25T20:04:38.826000Z
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@dave @RoyalJohnny242 @graf i think i was first but we can share the name
(DIR) Post #AKrEVz4NZcE4TWlBSa by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T20:07:07.617418Z
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At least I can be happy that half the pro-choicers (at least claim to) understand the problem with judicial activism and have a more nuanced take on this.At first I thought that 2/3rds choosing the "very pro-life" option indicated a lack of nuance with that crowd, but since plenty of people who would describe themselves as "pro-life" still recognize there are exceptional cases, them not choosing the "lean pro-life" option does not indicate that they don't recognize any exceptions.
(DIR) Post #AKrF75QYtkacuMpNM8 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T20:13:49.656145Z
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Having the lower-income, lower-IQ white people reproduce disproportionately is basically what you're advocating here. Banning abortion in your state just means most of the middle-class white people that would have just gotten an abortion in their own red state before this ruling, will instead travel to another blue state if they need one. Or they'll just order abortion pills in the mail, something apparently the states can't stop because they don't have the power to interfere with USPS operations as I understand it.There will be some drop, but the the drop in abortions will be steepest among the working class.
(DIR) Post #AKrIwpTNlH60LZVlB2 by galena@paws.moe
2022-06-25T20:56:48.203026Z
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@alyx @theblessing @dave @graf Do you really want that kind of woman to raise a child
(DIR) Post #AKrNZHWIKc6g9bSrQG by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-06-25T21:48:33.365883Z
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@fightknightHERO @dave Mandatory abortions for non-Whites, no abortions for Whites. It's what the founders would have wanted.
(DIR) Post #AKrNscFPUU1dwRmo4G by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T21:52:03.213367Z
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The 3/5ths compromise happened precisely because almost none of the founders would have wanted that, though for different reasons. Slavers wouldn't want abortion because that disrupts the flow of slaves. Abolitionists wouldn't want that because they were trying to end slavery because they saw black people as human.
(DIR) Post #AKrNwK6qrxqEqVYDey by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-06-25T21:52:44.365722Z
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@WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO @dave š
(DIR) Post #AKrNxFrGA5pdwwhaPQ by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-06-25T21:52:54.435544Z
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@WhiteTemplar @dave @fightknightHERO
(DIR) Post #AKrNy5jFJ8Jqp9Lv8a by hydramacready@poa.st
2022-06-25T21:53:04.123210Z
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@fightknightHERO @dave Lol.Me the intellectual: "what race is it?"
(DIR) Post #AKrNzjYohQaEeLG22i by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-06-25T21:53:21.382021Z
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@WhiteTemplar @dave @fightknightHERO
(DIR) Post #AKrO0jmRMsJvcY6msy by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-06-25T21:53:31.537203Z
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@dave @fightknightHERO The civil war happened way after the actual founders' time. Despite what retards think. Lincoln was not a founder. He was a faggot.
(DIR) Post #AKrOKbhP7iKCLhEA52 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T21:57:06.865692Z
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You do understand that it was the people against slavery, not the slavers, that didn't want black people to be counted on the census for voting purposes, right? It was the slavers that wanted them counted, so they would have the votes in congress to make sure the institution of slavery was protected. Hence the 3/5ths compromise.
(DIR) Post #AKrOYu2HkDTPH1oLdQ by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T21:59:41Z
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@greenpunk @dave
(DIR) Post #AKrOltqRlWumRiTH5E by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-06-25T22:02:00.548373Z
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@dave @fightknightHERO How did we get from aborting non-Whites to this. I don't care about muh 3/5s, or who thought what. My point is the founding fathers saw niggers as subhuman and if they were among us now, would want brown people to be aborted en masse in order to slow or stop the darkening of America.
(DIR) Post #AKrOrxmu1FUaPbhklE by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:03:08Z
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@dave @meowski @greenpunk Yes, casual sex is degenerate, but in order for abortion to be needed, you need both casual sex AND the sex must be unprotected.So, where you see more cases of unwanted pregnancies because of this ruling, I see 20 times LESS unwanted pregnancies. Just in this case, she cannot kill the baby to get rid of it.
(DIR) Post #AKrP6Wc9KcRCTkcPrs by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T22:05:46.830284Z
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> My point is the founding fathers saw niggers as subhumanAgain, this is only true for some of them, not all. If they all saw it that way, there wouldn't have been that disagreement about how black people should be counted on the census.
(DIR) Post #AKrP8JB2GJhfNnmpW4 by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:06:05Z
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@graf @dave Once abortions from these two reasons are a minority, we can talk about "saving lives".
(DIR) Post #AKrPXbg6c2Ec0ENmdc by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-06-25T22:10:41.589006Z
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@dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO Isn't the "slaves are 3/5th of a free man" a compromise mostly related to taxation and parliamentary representation?More population gives more representation, so the slave-heavy states would want slaves to count as free men in that regard. Oppositely, a plantation or farm's taxable output was quite possibly measured by how many workers it had*, so here slave-heavy states want slaves to count as less than free men, so they'll have to pay less taxes.*I don't actually know how early US taxation was measured, I just know a practice like this was done in Europe.
(DIR) Post #AKrPuyVDuxV5S5R3Lc by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:14:53Z
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@e @dave @salt @roboneko Do you cry every night about:Muslim camps in chinaRise of CO2Aids epidemicSlavery in africaYour grandparents deathUkraine right nowCrying every night isn't exactly a good metric now, is it?
(DIR) Post #AKrQLLNzScCdx7crZI by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:19:38Z
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@dave I used to be pro abortion, until I saw, that women don't care how many kids they kill.I believe abortion should be available as a plan z if you cannot possibly offer the kid a reasonable life. Not as a plan B, in case you fail to baby jail a chad.
(DIR) Post #AKrQV3KbRTBuqwfero by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T22:21:24.953595Z
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Not sure of the specifics of taxation in the Revolutionary period of US history, but I donāt think this was the case.Even if it were, though, the 3/5ths clause was purely about how they were counted for the census, and thus how many representatives the slave-holding states were apportioned in the house of representatives.
(DIR) Post #AKrQklFIS3gFOXgAoy by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-25T22:24:15.453448Z
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Is racism bad?
(DIR) Post #AKrQt2repUBIM4ZYKu by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-06-25T22:25:46.381438Z
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@dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO >the 3/5ths clause was purely about how they were counted for the census, and thus how many representatives the slave-holding states were apportioned in the house of representativesSo it's not about how the founding fathers viewed niggers as human or not, but about how much weight a state had in the union?
(DIR) Post #AKrR6bEOMlTohpfZOS by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:28:01Z
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@NEETzsche @dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO @Jens_Rasmussen I hate the fact, that fedi is starting to make me doubt the correct anwser
(DIR) Post #AKrRC7OqBx33vHBkA4 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-25T22:29:12.433996Z
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There is no correct answer, I'm just denying faggots a way to mealy mouth their way into answering "that depends on if the racism is against Whites š "
(DIR) Post #AKrRKIaOU8XYvvUd3g by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-25T22:30:39Z
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@NEETzsche @dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO @Jens_Rasmussen I know...But still I used to believe that yes. Racism did seem like a pure evil...Then the BLM riots happened, and now, I am just not sure at all.
(DIR) Post #AKrRd0kn0e6j85HJJI by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T22:34:03.539451Z
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No, itās because some of the founding fathers saw them as sub-human, and some of them saw them as human and hoped long-term to abolish slavery. Letting black people be counted as full humans for census purposes in a young country that was trying to establish itself as a democracy (technically, a constitutional republic) meant that it would be harder for the abolitionists to get the majority they needed to abolish slavery. Both the slavers and the abolitionists knew this, hence the 3/5ths compromise.
(DIR) Post #AKrRzSUGZrzbVwFloW by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-06-25T22:38:08.150632Z
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@dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO >some of them saw them as human and hoped long-term to abolish slaveryWhat leads you to believe this? The naturalization act that the founders made in their own lifetimes explicitly states "free white men of good character".
(DIR) Post #AKrS5LZtBAMnp4guki by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-25T22:39:11.245237Z
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Denying shitlibs hypocrisy on these matters basically strips them of any standing to cry foul when you do what you got to do or totally and permanently neuters their ability to push further on their goals. They can choose between not being hypocrites (they lose) and giving you _carte blanche_ (they lose).It's a kill shot, every time. It's why Dave will evade this confrontation every time until I spam it in his mentions, at which point he gives me a deranged all-caps rant about how it's okay for Haitians to exterminate White men and sexually enslave White women but it's not okay for White men to shoot up grocery stores full of useless EBT niggers.So, sorry to say, Dave, but your "cry about racism" card is revoked. Game over.
(DIR) Post #AKrSGnpiT0tedlYZzk by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-25T22:41:15.280883Z
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I would plug "which of the founding fathers opposed slavery" or "founding fathers comments on slavery" into google for an answer to this.
(DIR) Post #AKrSIQ8HYXALiJ0ooi by dj@rojogato.com
2022-06-25T22:41:33.127316Z
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(DIR) Post #AKrSPVmWx1CtGGDf04 by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-06-25T22:42:50.729919Z
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@dave @WhiteTemplar @fightknightHERO That'd be boring. I am making conversation here.
(DIR) Post #AKrT9hSLsSnwn2nzAe by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-06-25T22:51:10Z
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@dave I want less rules, not more.
(DIR) Post #AKrTMnUuj9KXI8FUtk by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-06-25T22:53:31.190106Z
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@iska @dave I think nine people cannot speak for 300m. Especially unelected unfirable nine people who all come from the same fraternal society. :blobcatancap:
(DIR) Post #AKrkz9PHPsQZSyUIqG by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-06-26T02:10:57.884513Z
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@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche @dave @fightknightHERO @Jens_Rasmussen Racism is just a natural reaction. We are tribal being and we ain't gonna evolve out of that any time soon. Whites still, by a long margin, live among Whites, have children with actual fellow Whites, and make friends with primarily Whites or White presenting non-Whites because that is what is comfortable. It's literally in or DNA to think, "those other guys suck, glad I am a part of /ourguys/."
(DIR) Post #AKrlAZdcEIZm0SdkTw by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-06-26T02:13:00.976399Z
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@NEETzsche @dave @Jens_Rasmussen @fightknightHERO The real answer is no when it is racism directed toward non-Whites and yes when it is directed towards Whites. No, I don't care if it's hypocrisy because neither does the enemy. Hail the White Nation!
(DIR) Post #AKrlLBqp0e6zPxsaQ4 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-26T02:14:56.385492Z
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(DIR) Post #AKrlMtdhgsbNVyYbgm by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-26T02:15:15.468691Z
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Also it's not really hypocrisy if you are forthright about it, as an aside
(DIR) Post #AKrnx2OQp11Wzsm6sK by Marshall1Banana@poa.st
2022-06-26T02:44:12.560681Z
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@dave I'm just advocating for a barrier to entry for abortions to whites without applying those same barriers to blacks, which this seems closet to do. Sure there's probably a better way get that result, especially with selection for ideal white families, but with ever-diminishing birth rates I'll take what I can get. As for women with money? We all know man has as much power to stop western women from murdering their own children as they have power to stop the morning tides, but at least this is sorta something I guess.
(DIR) Post #AKrtHLHmmuyH9eATDM by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-26T03:43:53.204775Z
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Having written a post a couple nights ago where I pointed out the connection between the flaws in both of these arguments, I just have to roll my eyes at the fact that this debate is still going on
(DIR) Post #AKrtskQqG57lrHEwmu by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-06-26T03:50:37.948682Z
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@roboneko Ah, the "define X" deconstruction game. A classic@LukeAlmighty @dave @salt @e
(DIR) Post #AKru1JUPnaUeu7znZw by Soundesignrec@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-26T03:52:11.669630Z
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@NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty @dave @salt @e @roboneko danm bro you got all the fags here neet :ablobcathyper:
(DIR) Post #AKruX9IHF3hUY7Uyie by SWAGGOD42069GAYGAY@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-26T03:57:44.339266Z
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@Soundesignrec @NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty @dave @e @roboneko @salt hello frend :DDD
(DIR) Post #AKruYLhKbpi9JFn22q by Soundesignrec@kiwifarms.cc
2022-06-26T03:58:10.691510Z
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@SWAGGOD42069GAYGAY @LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche @dave @e @roboneko @salt not that type of fag! :ablobcatrainbow:
(DIR) Post #AKs2q1VTDZkPX7BGAS by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-26T05:30:59Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e I can define you as a not human to take away your rights is an old trope, that I will ignore on principle, because I don't believe you're dumb enough to believe.Saying "they think it's not human" simply means, "they don't care they're killing babies". So no matter what language you use, the action remains the same you faggot.
(DIR) Post #AKsMnbYZ7EloMF0bLc by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-26T09:14:39Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e > trans women are women. saying "trans women are actually men" simply means "they don't care that they're bigots". I hope it's obvious why these sorts of semantic games can never constitute a worthwhile argumentYes, if you define being a bigot as wanting to use words correctly, then I am guilty as charged.In the same way, as they are killing babies. And they don't care.Yes, I am missing your point, because you did NOT say anything, that would justify that act.
(DIR) Post #AKsPo5D3ANUwBfrg1I by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-26T09:48:21Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e > under what circumstances is a life form significant enough to deserve legal protections? we don't bat an eyelash at killing insects. we prosecute people for animal cruelty but we don't treat it the same as murdering a fellow human. why is that?Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. I get vegans who refuse to support killing animals for food etc.But humans are quite a different beast, and if you expect me to say: This clump of cells, that will grow into an adult, has separate DNA etc is not human, and therefore a woman can demand to tear it apart, all I hear is: "human life means nothing to me, and doctors should be asked to take it whenever the mother feels like not using a condom"
(DIR) Post #AKsSgCwwnuljjtGlDE by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-26T10:20:31Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e > you're missing the point. the question is why it's bad. Dude, you're right. I did miss a point there.If you don't believe that murder is inherently bad, and has to be outweight by something great, then I really don't see a way to argue morality with you.
(DIR) Post #AKsdOR8CRDOS0PGFFI by condret@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T11:19:55.732529Z
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@dave i'm pro abortion (pro choice). i'm so glad my ex could do an abortion years ago, otherwise that child would have ruined both of our lives for 20+ years
(DIR) Post #AKsgS31cJ1KyGKaz7w by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T12:54:52.933489Z
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@condret @dave 20+ years pretty low expectations for the lad, you know you can dump them at 18 right?
(DIR) Post #AKsnddC6rwcHItyRvs by condret@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T14:15:00.607878Z
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@Dave @dave parents here are legally obliged to give them financial support until they're 25
(DIR) Post #AKsngk041QerHQp3S4 by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T14:15:58.493575Z
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@condret @dave sheesh, oh well good thing it was aborted could have ended up like me
(DIR) Post #AKsngrVW6sycZ0alwu by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-26T14:15:58.140470Z
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That sounds awful
(DIR) Post #AKsnmHgSDLN3CEIFe4 by dave@gleasonator.com
2022-06-26T14:16:58.070712Z
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Isekai where the neet gets reborn in a world where he gets to spend another 25 years being a neet
(DIR) Post #AKsoBF1XF0QyBb3QmW by condret@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T14:20:55.033723Z
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@Dave @dave the thing for me actually isn't really about the money, sure that sucks. Mostly I don't want to waste my 20s and 30s raising a child instead of partying mid week, going to conferences and festivals.
(DIR) Post #AKsoBJ6I5GcApVJHkW by Dave@shitposter.club
2022-06-26T14:21:27.868481Z
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@condret @dave yeah for real
(DIR) Post #AKtA8LwlF859mQqhyC by syrenka@poa.st
2022-06-26T18:27:28.529659Z
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@LukeAlmighty @graf @dave youtu.be/CeMeDihwyrg
(DIR) Post #AKuGdyN1EGEgoCYGJs by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-27T07:15:03Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e Nice word salad, but you still ended up with phrase "tell me why murder is bad".And yes, I am dismissing you on the tribal ground. If "murder is bad", then you have reached a point, where intellectual conversation is nothing but a blunt tool to excuse degeneracy. And I refuse to play that game.
(DIR) Post #AKuIXeNepxu0yyxnFo by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-27T07:36:22Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e Nice word salad, but you still ended up with phrase "tell me why murder is bad".And yes, I am dismissing you on the tribal ground. If your question is "why is murder is bad", then you have reached a point, where intellectual conversation is nothing but a blunt tool to excuse degeneracy. And I refuse to play that game.
(DIR) Post #AKuMXMFWeEquZBH9ns by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-06-27T08:21:05Z
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@roboneko @dave @salt @e I am fucking autistic. I do enjoy overintellectualizing shit to the point of absurdity, but there comes a point, where you just have to say: That's it, I am not moving from this point.In the exact same way, as even in math there are Axioms that are just not meant to be questioned, I do declare "it's bad to kill babies" to be an axiom of morality.
(DIR) Post #ALH7VWYAn2mXUKtKAy by roboneko@masochi.st
2022-06-26T08:38:07.146870Z
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@NEETzsche no. if that's what you think then I'm not sure that you bothered to read what I wroteI specifically called out arguments of definition as pointless@LukeAlmighty @dave @salt @e
(DIR) Post #ALH7VWvvMjmSg00ICG by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-07-08T07:51:05Z
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So? @robonekoAfter all of the posts, do you get, that saying "I don't care about these babies" won't calm anyone? @dave @NEETzsche @salt @e
(DIR) Post #ALH7tkwCwsTB3pgjAW by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-07-08T07:55:28Z
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@e @dave @NEETzsche @salt @roboneko I know this might sound surprising, but I don't believe, that philosophical topics like this one are so time limited, that they don't matter anymore mere 2 weeks later.
(DIR) Post #ALHDzDGDfjXI4j29NA by roboneko@masochi.st
2022-07-08T08:59:07.474747Z
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I certainly don't mind you responding. I agree that certain topics remain relevant to carry on potentially indefinitely. actually I think I inadvertently forgot to respond to you elsewhere in this thread. it was consuming too much time so I muted it and then forgot to come back to itthat being said, it's troubling to me that both you and neetz appear to have misinterpreted what I wrote. I think that speaks to just how tribal (and thus largely pointless) discussions of this topic have a tendency to runI never said "I don't care about babies" or anything even remotely similar. in fact the vast majority of what I wrote had nothing to do with the specifics of my personal views on the topic. I spoke primarily to *why* you think what you thinkif someone asks you "why is stealing bad" that's a legitimate philosophical, moral, ethics, etc question. or alternatively, if they ask "why does X qualify as theft". neither of those questions means "I think stealing is ok" or "I don't care if other people steal", they both mean quite literally what they say, namely, a request to articulate your reasoning for holding a particular belief
(DIR) Post #ALHDzFORk7IygotkTQ by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-07-08T09:03:40Z
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@roboneko @dave @NEETzsche @salt @e That question is strange.Killing humans is generally considered to be one of the worst acts that can be made. Do you need this statement justified too?Killing younger people is worse then killing older people, since the younger people had a longer part of their life stolen.So, killing babies is the worst case, when it comes to the amount of life stolen.
(DIR) Post #ALHEMcaxe3HnJEtheS by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2022-07-08T09:07:55Z
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@roboneko @dave @NEETzsche @salt @e Ok, I am seriously confused. You are using way too many words, and the question at the core is hidden in a ton of comparisons.What is your core question then?