Post AKOKDObiibBEWYdeAC by neauoire@merveilles.town
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(DIR) Post #AKOErSgmMYx12cj5pQ by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:15:58Z
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Someone wrote a fancyful blogpost with lots of complicated words and numbers to dis uxn on the front-page of HN!:moar:
(DIR) Post #AKOJRzHv2O2SO3lplQ by milofultz@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:16:54Z
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@neauoire are you going to reply with "K"?
(DIR) Post #AKOJbb3K00Uk7NWaky by cancel@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:07:51Z
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@neauoire just noticed this part:> WebAssembly implementation acts as a sandbox, and no information outside the virtual memory of the implementation can be compromised. The uxn system could also be a sandbox, and prevent damage outside of its memory, but a filesystem device is specified for the platform, and is often implemented, and so a uxn program can destroy information outside its virtual machine.my dude, did you do any research at all
(DIR) Post #AKOJbbkDQWo2GPaqcC by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:09:09Z
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@cancel the post has a very "researched" aesthetics style, but I don't think much research actually went into the thing.
(DIR) Post #AKOJmPx9bhG2sYndnk by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-06-11T21:13:18Z
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@cancel @neauoire "uxn is too naive when compared to gcc11 and webassembly" is some kind of feeling
(DIR) Post #AKOJmQgsrfpzAOCA52 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-06-11T21:19:27.973345Z
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@khm @cancel @neauoire Not sure for others but that one seems like praise to me…
(DIR) Post #AKOK3x6HcTR8beQmRc by cancel@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:17:29Z
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@neauoire mom get the camera
(DIR) Post #AKOK5o3QDwTl84ycS0 by flbr@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:22:09Z
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@neauoire ... I don't really understand how to use hn, how would I find the article? I'm curious :P
(DIR) Post #AKOK5om5XsCxMbsI4W by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:22:35Z
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@flbr https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31705239
(DIR) Post #AKOK5pE5rkbqlSyeiu by zvava@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T20:24:45Z
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@neauoire @flbr lmao "The uxntal language is merely an assembler for a stack machine." no way
(DIR) Post #AKOK6cuf8Gm8rgGqNU by montag@hackers.town
2022-06-11T20:44:35Z
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@neauoire They really spent a lot of time coming up with a really complex way of saying "this could never be used by two people on a sailboat". Which is obviously just not true.
(DIR) Post #AKOKDGzX2BTQu5iYAS by cancel@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:09:33Z
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@neauoire the second most popular uxn implementation already does exactly what the author said doesn't exist, and has for months
(DIR) Post #AKOKDObiibBEWYdeAC by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:10:47Z
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@cancel I'm pretty sure uxn32 is the most downloaded emulator, by far.
(DIR) Post #AKOKEv0RkIoPISvikq by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:14:10Z
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@khm @cancel how dare we
(DIR) Post #AKOKKO4P7APCsuOAUK by faun@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:15:48Z
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@neauoire It was nice of them to put so much work into this contribution to the uxn knowledge community. I can really feel the love.Should I write a comment about how uxn being slow actually makes it a *better* demonstration of software minimalism ("you don't need a fast computer to make a program!"), and how since neauoire is about making demonstrations and inspiration, it's fine, and it functions well as that.Shall I? IIRC last time someone said something like that on HN you didn't like it.
(DIR) Post #AKOKKP1bZ3lDqW5RlQ by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:22:11Z
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@faun haha, no no. I don't think that's a good idea. I feel your love tho, and I appreciate it :)I'm pretty sure what they value as "better", we would hate, and vice versa. There's no winners here.
(DIR) Post #AKOKKPiUza4VzY9hce by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-11T21:22:19Z
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@faun What the sadder part about this is, is not that uxn is slow or wtvr, but that uxn is NOT another C, and not another lisp. The central idea of permacomputing is to try many solutions, as to build some semblance of resilience, shooting down anything that is not fitting their tight framing of "better" is very much at odds with the entire premise..
(DIR) Post #AKPtizUhJcCtSP7AkS by steve@merveilles.town
2022-06-12T07:57:01Z
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@neauoire people who don't understand and won't use your software will engage in uninformed debate about things they don't understand. Can't wait for this guy to tell everyone why people shouldn't write games for pico-8.Just remember it's noise and it will pass more quickly the less you engage, even if people are wrong. I find this sometimes helps when hn jump on my stuff http://n-gate.com/
(DIR) Post #AKPtj0FUVddZnX0XgW by neauoire@merveilles.town
2022-06-12T15:35:55Z
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@steve I've been getting these subtoot style "blog posts" recently, beyond their cowardly natures, it makes me wonder about something else. I spent some time doing research into what alternatives that were our there before starting on Uxn, and now I'm wondering if the reason why there are so few is that they are all met with this sort of shit, how many people it might discourage and make them just give up their little weird idea and -just write it in C.
(DIR) Post #AKQCLlI7qxEzsPs5AW by vertigo@hackers.town
2022-06-12T19:04:15Z
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@neauoire @steve Bingo.Exactly this.At one time, Forth was moderately popular to write software in. Alas, today, it's viewed as "thoroughly unsuitable," a descriptor once used by another HackerNews idiot to describe some of my string processing work in Forth at the time. This is what gave rise to my blog engine literally named after that bullshit: Unsuitable.One of these days, I intend on updating Unsuitable and possibly running it directly on my ForthBox environment. Unsuitable my ass.While I absolutely love the over-arching philosophy of Unix and its unique flavor of minimalism, it's severe NIH is an attribute inherited directly from AT&T, leading to a strong culture of tech-bro-ism. It's almost as if they've inculcated a cult: if it's not directly from the minds of Kernighan, Ritchie, or Pike, it's shit, and should never be used in production.But, we are in good company. If someone as influential as Niklaus Wirth can be crumpled up like a discarded flyer by the Cult of Unix, people like us simply do not stand a chance. All we can do is exist, and keep on existing, and keep on being severely inconvenient truths for cultists.
(DIR) Post #AKQKWT9ASAueQBIWq8 by paul@post.lurk.org
2022-06-12T19:42:31Z
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@neauoire I'm pretty impressed with how upset they were about uxn. They had a table of contents and everything.