Post AIjP1rIvkiWDXT3mMK by bjb@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AIjP1rIvkiWDXT3mMK by bjb@fosstodon.org
       2022-04-23T02:08:50Z
       
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       Am I the only person who thinks that electric cars might not be the best use of centrally generated electricity, if the batteries lose 40-60% of their power just by being outdoors in the cold weather?Maybe we should work harder on other alternatives to oil and gas?
       
 (DIR) Post #AIjP1rqbjVSPDuofqq by kev@fosstodon.org
       2022-04-23T05:42:54Z
       
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       @bjb rather than the efficiency of the batteries, I’m more concerned about the sustainability and resources used in mining all that lithium. Are we just moving the problem?I do think overall electric cars are a huge improvement over petrol/diesel.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIkJJQZZTPzpHHnW7c by bjb@fosstodon.org
       2022-04-23T16:13:10Z
       
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       @kev I agree the huge amount of these metals is another large problem for using batteries at scale in transport.  But, all the people saying batteries in transport is so much better than gas - but some electric plants still use oil/gas to operate - and now we are throwing away 40-60% of that generated energy in cold weather.  Not to mention the inefficiency of storing energy in batteries even at room temperature.  Not saying we don't need to get off oil and gas ... but ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AIkLMDPR4Tl1EGVvCi by bufordk@noagendasocial.com
       2022-04-23T16:36:37Z
       
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       @bjb No, you are not alone. The only logical way to solve this is NUKE but nuke is not woke and if everyone had their own little 'pocket reactor' the  treacherous cretins running things would have nothing left to use as a cudgel against the masses.