Post AIbTeTsTdCxWjCgA6K by gabor@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AIXR3A3pN1iW0nE2Hw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-04-17T08:32:08Z
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I studied critical media theory for four years. Learned a lot from this man about American imperialism. So may I please be the first to say:Fuck Chomsky.Let him and folks like Yanis be a lesson for you: don’t let your ivory-tower theorising destroy your humanity.https://nitter.net/visegrad24/status/1515405530067517443
(DIR) Post #AIXR3AanOS5Xf2eMfw by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2022-04-17T11:09:07.135993Z
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@aral I’ll be honest, Chomsky doesn’t sound unreasonable here – just that, of course, this seems like an unusual call for compromise. The concern Visegrad24 states could be solved with federalization itself, in order to make the Constitution a fundamental rights tool and little else. But at the same time, it’s insulting to go telling a victim of war “hey, you can only save humanity by giving up to the guy who came after you”
(DIR) Post #AIbPX6FiffGVc1m91E by gabor@fosstodon.org
2022-04-17T15:53:12Z
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@aral So to clarify: if I don't think that the US should fight Russia to the last Ukranian that means I have "lost my humanity"? Did I get that right?If this is the conclusion you draw then maybe you learned less about US imperialism than you thought you had...
(DIR) Post #AIbPX6lGmMVDBsXLCC by famicom@pl.kotobank.ch
2022-04-19T09:09:49.877692Z
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@gabor @aral ah yes, American imperialism is bad, but Russian imperialism is good for the world and must be supported, right?
(DIR) Post #AIbSAWTBKWI67pzxg0 by Sunliver@kiwifarms.cc
2022-04-19T09:39:43.188080Z
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@famicom @gabor @aralThere is no Russian imperialism at play in this conflict, or really anywhere, at all, whereas Western imperialism is entirely the cause of the war and continues to be the fuel poured onto the fire it lit.If any of Ukraine’s figureheads, any of their puppeteers in DC or London or Tel Aviv, cared about Ukrainian people whatsoever they could have prevented the conflict very easily, and could still end it whenever they choose. Stop persecuting Russians, stop terrorizing the Donbass, and do not park nukes or western military on Russian border - something Ukraine had already agreed to and went back on numerous times. Their goal is to harm Russia and push forward plans for Western conquest of it, and they will do so down to the last Ukrainian. They do not give a crap about Ukrainians, the people there are entirely expendable to them – the greater the damage the better, they think. Where Russia has to tiptoe around the battlefield, the West is lobbing munitions indiscriminately from every schoolhouse or residential neighborhood in efforts to maximize casualties, to maximize damage.There is no Russia imperalism at play, there is only another stereotypical slimy conflict instigated for purposes of power and control, operated by the same beast who has raped half the planet over the last century. As is typical for Western wars, there is a clear delineation of right and wrong here, and the West is in the wrong, as they are every damn time.
(DIR) Post #AIbSAX4P6845zHPgh6 by famicom@pl.kotobank.ch
2022-04-19T09:39:20.842486Z
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@Sunliver @gabor @aral oh I see, my opinion has changed completely, praise Putin for saving the world once again.
(DIR) Post #AIbSpNmaX5sX3XYj5s by Sunliver@kiwifarms.cc
2022-04-19T09:47:16.897257Z
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@famicom @gabor @aral I knew you would see reason. You are still and always will be my only friend.
(DIR) Post #AIbSsxdNh6QF7GxVZ2 by Soy_Magnus@shitposter.club
2022-04-19T09:48:35.069715Z
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@Sunliver @gabor @aral @famicom theres alot going on here and i dont understand any of it
(DIR) Post #AIbTeTsTdCxWjCgA6K by gabor@fosstodon.org
2022-04-19T09:44:32Z
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@famicom @aral no both are equally bad is my point. To return to the Chomsky quote: which of the two alternatives raised are you advocating for? Can I assume that you are for arming Ukraine and fighting to the last Ukranian? Or do you believe in Ukrainian military victory? Do you go so far that NATO should get involved directly? It's easy to post short "f* you"-s and ironic toots that make us feel good or morally superior. I still don't know what you guys think western policy should be...
(DIR) Post #AIbTeURDY2kSSwvuFc by famicom@pl.kotobank.ch
2022-04-19T09:55:56.841715Z
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@gabor @aral as I just so happen to live in Ukraine and would take up arms if/when the 4th wave of the draft hits, yes, I'm for arming us.That's what you and people like you fail to realise, it's the the US fighting Russia until the last Ukrainian, it's Ukrainians fighting a country that has unjustly invaded their territory until the last Ukrainian. Just how the Vietnamese, Syrians, Afghans and many other have against other invading forces.A surrender will be the death of Ukrainians anyway (as de-Nazification is de-Ukrainisation) so even if we don't win (and yet, people were saying that we'll lose within 3 days, then a week, then two weeks, then a month and so on, and yet we keep persevering), we at least have to put up a fight to make it as much of a pyrrhic victory for Russia as possible.
(DIR) Post #AIbU4DYSwRGddJaiUS by famicom@pl.kotobank.ch
2022-04-19T10:00:38.021955Z
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@gabor @aral it isn't US fighting Russia*
(DIR) Post #AIbWbLPQxaZJSQI3wO by boongus@kiwifarms.cc
2022-04-19T10:27:44.484197Z
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@Sunliver @famicom @aral @gabor can we just nuke Russia and ukraine im getting really tired of hearing about it constantly.
(DIR) Post #AIbWbLuz4Ho12H3G7M by famicom@pl.kotobank.ch
2022-04-19T10:28:59.200361Z
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@boongus @gabor @Sunliver @aral ah, but then the news cycle goes back to covid