Post AIBntZhlIpaqPIcOS8 by zachdecook@social.librem.one
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(DIR) Post #AIBEb513ATBHcR5MwK by FOSSphones@neighborli.xyz
2022-04-06T18:04:57.239787Z
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Do you have a favorite mobile Linux distro? If so, which is it? (If it isn't listed, feel free to comment your favorite!)
(DIR) Post #AIBntZhlIpaqPIcOS8 by zachdecook@social.librem.one
2022-04-06T20:04:47Z
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@FOSSphones swmo is a de flavor (not a distro)
(DIR) Post #AIBntaSYUr1WkQVlOC by FOSSphones@neighborli.xyz
2022-04-06T22:50:26.396576Z
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@zachdecook this is correct, but it is different enough from "the other flavors" of pmOS that it is usually discussed in its own context.
(DIR) Post #AIBpeYOw4EQPvcmGiO by Suiseiseki@desuposter.club
2022-04-07T01:01:08.443414Z
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@FOSSphones Those aren't Linux distro's though (as Linux is only a kernel, and distro's of Linux would be different patchsets and everything listed is either BusyBox/Linux or GNU/Linux)?The poll is missing Gentoo-libre GNU/Linux-libre.
(DIR) Post #AIBpu1hXPe7t91rALw by Gamercat@blob.cat
2022-04-07T01:03:58.668708Z
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@Suiseiseki @FOSSphones buuut I doubt there are libre-linux distributions on the phones
(DIR) Post #AIBqJZSl1bUL5t7jEG by Suiseiseki@desuposter.club
2022-04-07T01:08:34.031710Z
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@Gamercat There's no prepackaged versions available sure, but you can compilllllle it yourself.As long as you're willing to go without bluetooth, the usb firmware or camera auto focus, you can use the pinephone with GNU/Linux-libre, as the mobile chipset is separate after all.
(DIR) Post #AIBqa4Pxhe6JjSgROq by Gamercat@blob.cat
2022-04-07T01:11:34.835956Z
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@Suiseiseki I think one compilation is not enough, because libre-linux is not optimized for pinephone
(DIR) Post #AICHq4KWUiC0r7zc24 by rav3ndust@neighborli.xyz
2022-04-07T06:17:01.242529Z
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@Suiseiseki @FOSSphones
(DIR) Post #AICIN9ArVM8JR6FMDw by alexeymin@fosstodon.org
2022-04-06T21:19:51Z
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@zachdecook @FOSSphones then I guess all votes for swmo can be counted into postmarketOS đ
(DIR) Post #AICINA2OIKx277I6eu by hamblingreen@fosstodon.org
2022-04-07T05:08:28Z
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it's been ported to multiple other distros :)
(DIR) Post #AICIS5BpkIjKWj3SDo by optimal@mastodon.online
2022-04-07T05:22:07Z
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@FOSSphones NixOS Mobile
(DIR) Post #AICP1d9M4gYDiEEGR6 by Suiseiseki@desuposter.club
2022-04-07T07:37:28.669031Z
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@rav3ndust Actually; https://www.gnu.org/gnu/incorrect-quotation.html
(DIR) Post #AICQETQ7eyyDFtlAlU by rav3ndust@neighborli.xyz
2022-04-07T07:51:03.443039Z
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@Suiseiseki interestingly, neither I nor the image I posted attributed the entire quote to RMS (though yes, Iâm well aware that a good deal of it is from Richard) - itâs merely the default meme to pull out when someone rolls up to âcorrectâ people when someone dares to opt for the one-worder of âLinuxâ when making a simple post on social media. Given the context of the original post, itâs a safe bet that everyone replying has known for a long time that Linux is a kernel, and many other components make up the rest of the overall system. In writings, I typically refer to it âthe correct wayâ (GNU/Linux, et al), Iâm an FSF supporter and free software advocate, but Iâm not going to begin attempting to correct people when they use the expression that has become the norm (âLinux distroâ). Itâs merely a simple poll asking people who bought a dev device what their favorite system is to use for said device - itâs nothing so serious.
(DIR) Post #AICR34bxevOH52QQF6 by Suiseiseki@desuposter.club
2022-04-07T08:00:09.449273Z
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@rav3ndust >opt for the one-worder of âLinuxâI wouldn't call it a good choice when it's longer to write than "GNU", which would be correct, albeit lacking specificity.>itâs a safe bet that everyone replying has known for a long time that Linux is a kernel, and many other components make up the rest of the overall system.You would think that, but it's amazing just how many people don't realize that Linux is only a kernel, or even better yet try to claim that Linux is an OS, even though they should know better.If people were actually lazy and just wanted a shorthand, they would write "GNU" (or BusyBox when applicable).>I'm not going to begin attempting to correct people when they use the expression that has become the norm (âLinux distroâ). Just because an incorrect expression has become the norm doesn't mean you should give up on expelling it - one should only push harder.>itâs nothing so serious.I find it serious that so many people have never heard of GNU or BusyBox, despite using them daily.
(DIR) Post #AICVt4zTtRzz8ETqEK by rav3ndust@neighborli.xyz
2022-04-07T08:54:25.048466Z
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@Suiseiseki > I wouldnât call it a good choice when itâs longer to write than âGNUâ, which would be correct, albeit lacking specificity.I didnât call it a good choice or a bad choice. Iâm not interested in wasting my time correcting people on how they speak. Iâm also not interested in pushing people away from using free software by confusing them with acronyms they have never heard of (your average computer user who uses a Windows or Mac machine has never heard of GNU). In todayâs technological world, there is a good chance that your average computer user has at least heard of âLinuxâ, as it has become colloquially known, and might even have some interest in trying it. Iâm more interested in getting more people over to the free software side than being pedantic about how they refer to it. Once they use the system, if theyâd like to learn even more about its origins, Iâm more than happy to explain how the system goes together (Linux the kernel, and GNU userland). You would think that, but itâs amazing just how many people donât realize that Linux is only a kernel, or even better yet try to claim that Linux is an OS, even though they should know better. If people were actually lazy and just wanted a shorthand, they would write âGNUâ (or BusyBox when applicable).Itâs not that amazing, most people who are typical computer users donât give two shits about what kernel theyâre running, if they even know what a kernel is. Your typical user also has no clue what âGNUâ or âBusyBoxâ are, and if they have expressed some interest in looking into free software, you want to lightly bring them into the fold, not barrage them with unfamiliar terms (remember, weâre talking about your average user, not someone like most of us on âfree software fediâ who care about these things). Just because an incorrect expression has become the norm doesnât mean you should give up on expelling it - one should only push harder.This will end up being a âpush harderâ right back towards proprietary software for many people who will either find it too complicated in comparison to Windows, or will make you appear obnoxious, like a vegan. If someone is asking me a question âabout Linuxâ, Iâm going to attempt to help them, not pounce on them for using the wrong words.I find it serious that so many people have never heard of GNU or BusyBox, despite using them daily.The same can be said of almost anything. How many typical macOS users do you think are well-versed in BSD and Darwin? How many typical daily internet users, who probably use Chrome, know anything about Blink, or the underlying Chromium project? Like I said, I use the âRMS-approvedâ way of saying things most of the time (GNU/Linux), but Iâm not trying to evangelize to the point where it gets annoying to the layperson. Let them get interested in free software and the system by whatever name they want to call it - there is plenty of time for them to learn about the roots of the system later.
(DIR) Post #AICcO6JHdZg1vSuyf2 by Suiseiseki@desuposter.club
2022-04-07T10:07:12.951527Z
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@rav3ndust >confusing them with acronyms they have never heardI don't see what's so confusing about simply mentioning what the OS is called, while dispelling the very confusing act of naming a whole OS after its kernel.>there is a good chance that your average computer user has at least heard of âLinuxâ and might even have some interest in trying it.Most people have heard of "Linux", but they've also heard that it's "open source" and done "for fun".Trying GNU/Linux with that idea in mind is mostly pointless, you'll most likely be going back to windows straight away as soon as a piece of proprietary software doesn't work.If you try GNU/Linux with the idea that it is free software, that respects your freedom and you respect that, you are likely to continue despite the difficulties you face.>Iâm more interested in getting more people over to the free software side than being pedantic about how they refer to itI gladly welcome people to freedom, but I'm not very interested if such people are only interested in throwing their newly gained freedom away by using mostly proprietary software.A good indicator of the heavy running of proprietary software seems to be using the "linux" naming.>you want to lightly bring them into the fold, not barrage them with unfamiliar termsThere's sadly no technically lightly way to note proprietary software is malware and that a free software OS was written so users could have freedom.The typical "open source" lightly way just gives people the wrong idea.Reguardless, changing OS's requires that one is willing to learn new things. If you can't handle learning about unfamiliar terms, then you can't handle changing OS's.>If someone is asking me a question âabout Linuxâ, Iâm going to attempt to help them, not pounce on them for using the wrong words.If someone asks me "about Linux", when they're really asking me about GNU/Linux, I gently but firmly correct them and then proceed to help them.>typical macOS users do you think are well-versed in BSD and Darwin?macOS users don't want a computer, they want a facebook machine, so there's little chance saving this lot.>How many typical daily internet users, who probably use Chrome, know anything about Blink, or the underlying Chromium project? Not many of them do, but it would only be a good thing if they know about blink and the underlying chromium project.Some of them will realize that chrome is proprietary malware and cease being used by google.>Let them get interested in free software and the system by whatever name they want to call it - there is plenty of time for them to learn about the roots of the system later.Unless they are informed rightly from the start, I doubt they'll really learn about the truth of the system later.
(DIR) Post #AIGGT3r2m0ZvOnVcIq by publiclewdness@linuxrocks.online
2022-04-07T01:16:18Z
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@FOSSphones PostmarketOS but I can swap with Mobian and be happy. Both offer full disk encryption which I like.