Post AI9OE0HPDmi5UkS1dA by cy@mstdn.io
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(DIR) Post #AI8gOrdbIRhHtWCWCO by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-04-05T12:33:22.685677Z
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The upcoming famines will have been caused by governments. We know they did it. We watched them do it. We're watching them do it.They're going to claim it's climate change. They're lying. Climate change doesn't send everyone home on COVID leave and send everyone cheques. Climate change doesn't shut down trade with huge resource markets. Climate change doesn't shut down oil and gas pipelines and oil wells.
(DIR) Post #AI8gl33hVwZlgdzHHM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-04-05T12:37:09Z
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@sj_zero Fear of climate change does all these things.Or using climate change as an excuse.If Joe Biden believed in climate change, why would he own giant houses near the coast?He'd live in a normal 2kish sq ft house inland.
(DIR) Post #AI96vUja4OUJE0DaaW by Awoo@poa.st
2022-04-05T17:30:36.543070Z
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(DIR) Post #AI9OE0HPDmi5UkS1dA by cy@mstdn.io
2022-04-05T17:13:41Z
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@sj_zero Climate change isn't the only problem in the world, and government isn't the only other problem in the world. What sends people home on COVID leave is too much global trade. What shuts down huge resource markets is the fact that it's not a market, the resource is completely imaginary, and its backers are just desperately bullshitting trying to scam their way out of trouble. And people using less oil and gas shuts down oil and gas, which is not a problem.
(DIR) Post #AI9OE0nJJAEN5hNVMO by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-04-05T20:44:24.999753Z
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@cy I agree with your first two statements, but I don't think governments get off so easily for what they did and did not do.They did shut down productive capacity in entire nations for weeks, months, and years. They did pay everyone to be at home and not producing anything. This is what set the current inflation and upcoming stagflation in motion. I called this back in early 2020. Basic economics.They did not reduce the demand for oil and gas. Homes still need to be heated and cooled, crops still need to be grown, and in a lot of ways what I've seen has been NIMBYism and environmental industrial complex green accounting where you either stop doing things locally and then have China and India do the polluting things then pretend you're polluting less even though you're actually polluting much more and using more energy or you push the pollution into another organisation so you can pretend you're not polluting as much and then quietly ignore the other organization.In my region, we are powered almost exclusively by hydroelectric power, which has no marginal carbon cost per kilowatt. There used to be a small amount of carbon based electricity generation for surge capacity. The power company wanted to "go green", so they implemented new charges to prevent surges and then just shut down their surge capacity. As a result of these charges, companies installed on-site diesel generators en masse. Instead of using one relatively efficient generating station, companies now use thousands of small and inefficient generators.In the same region, they wanted more "green" power, so they gave people 50x the going rate for electricity from solar panels and the like. As a direct result, power rates have quadrupled....And there's still basically no green energy generation. Meanwhile, because electricity has become massively more expensive people are moving away from carbon neutral electricity and towards fossil fuels for heating their homes.Meanwhile, they are making sure supply doesn't increase. Governments are doing everything in their power to keep oil extraction "elsewhere". Why is Russia providing most fossil fuels for Europe? Because only Russia is willing to actually produce fossil fuels. Well, great job on that. We raised prices and gave that money to a violent dictator (just like we always do, see the middle east for details) and now that violent dictator invaded a democratic country. Whether we like it or not, fossil fuels are a key ingredient in our lives. Right now you're surrounded by materials that require fossil fuels to exist in their current useful forms, from cotton to plastics to wood to metal. What are countries doing? Making them more expensive. During the height of the pandemic, our glorious fuhrer and sole defender of our democracy Justin Trudeau increased carbon taxes. It's great -- gas is two bucks a liter. In a net oil exporting nation. So now with carbon priced "properly", all the things that require carbon are seeing the knock-on effects of that -- including Fertilizer, which is produced using 2% of the world's natural gas production.Markets are far from perfect, and I'll also give you that not all of the problems are from government -- One of the reasons for the current oil prices is cyclical, caused by the shale oil boom. The massive investment in shale oil during the oil boom that ended around 2015 caused a glut of oil causing prices to collapse, which caused investment to dry up (and ESG investors were more than happy to push that along), so a lack of fossil fuels was partially an inevitability. It's the depth of the trough in production that can be pinned on governments. There's lots of productive capacity in Alberta, for example, but nobody wanted to pull the trigger on pipelines that could actually transport it, so we'll just have to pay more to buy it from Russia. Shame, we didn't even need to go to war in the middle east for 20 years to get at it.Regardless of the reasons, the day of the ant and the grasshopper is upon us. Hopefully everyone on fediverse is smart enough to prepare for a very long winter.
(DIR) Post #AI9R6WBP1QJtzElVtg by Jkid@gearlandia.haus
2022-04-05T21:16:42.169742Z
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@sj_zero Not to mention the people and countries screaming the loudest about climate change are the ones most dependent on mainland china for the cheap consumer goods
(DIR) Post #AI9RMbEk02OGIIzl1E by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-04-05T21:19:35.771212Z
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@Jkid Absolutely. Looks to me like they're just playing an accounting trick. "Look! We don't use hardly any fossil fuels at all!" Meanwhile in Beijing:
(DIR) Post #AI9RwTwwZPD67QmSga by Jkid@gearlandia.haus
2022-04-05T21:26:05.787924Z
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@sj_zero It is unwritten foreign policy in the West that Mainland China has to be appeased at all costs.
(DIR) Post #AI9eMeIDw4RlB1yhDU by cy@mstdn.io
2022-04-05T22:03:32Z
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@sj_zero Well, as a for-instance, governments around the world closed down libraries, shut down local businesses (globalist big box stores were allowed to remain open as "essential" of course), and did nothing to even temporarily stem the massive amounts of global shipping and travel that's spreading around all these pathogens.
(DIR) Post #AI9eMevvYSCpAAYP6O by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-04-05T23:45:15.444279Z
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@cy Yeah. I remember taking a trip right before the world ended in about Feburary, and at that point it was clear a pathogen was on its way. Still hadn't made it into the country. We've known about the concept of quarantine for 600 years, but instead of instituting one at the border they kept everything open, but then 6 weeks after it was too late they locked down everything other than the border. The people who spread it weren't families going to the local pharmacy, it was executives jet setting around the world. It was considered unacceptable to potentially hassle the global elites, but literally every man, woman, and child on earth besides the global elites? Go right ahead.
(DIR) Post #AI9eMgK4OB6zTKrCN6 by cy@mstdn.io
2022-04-05T22:04:47Z
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So yeah the government's fucking awful. But it's not entirely their fault, they're being forced to act in dumbass ways by commercial interests too. And climate change is still a huge problem, which makes all those other problems worse.
(DIR) Post #AI9elC4hzDyutrMOSO by paladin1@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-04-05T22:59:04Z
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@sj_zeroI would think they'll claim famine is due to the invasion of Ukraine. They are/were a food & fertilizer powerhouse, after all.
(DIR) Post #AI9elCuorTfJVTk0gK by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-04-05T23:49:42.805381Z
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@paladin1 In what I've seen, these people either are simpletons, or they think we are. There's one all-encompassing problem they can use to justify whatever insanity they want, they'll use every opportunity to blame every evil of the world on it. The war in Ukraine will end one day. Climate change can't.
(DIR) Post #AI9wJJ9bs6EhvDVOoC by cy@mstdn.io
2022-04-06T03:02:38Z
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@sj_zero Yeah, I love the idea of globalism, that we're all on one big interconnected world, but that interconnection is vulnerability. If it's not Covid19, it's Zebra Mussels; the Great Lakes are dead zones because of them. Globalism helps with local regional failures like droughts and floods, but we are doing too much of it. We need more local industry that doesn't ship people and goods around so much.
(DIR) Post #AI9wJL4ijFVtsdEWSu by cy@mstdn.io
2022-04-06T03:05:33Z
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But that won't funnel more of our dollars into untraceable international accounts, and of course we can't have that. If we didn't let globalists dictate how our markets must be open to every seller in the world, then slavers wouldn't be able to deceive us into thinking they're not enslaving whole populations by hiding their crimes overseas!