Post AHsD0OMRs3nkFr9FZY by ketmorco@mastodon.technology
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(DIR) Post #AHs7Ip7yUc9Il0mf7A by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2022-03-28T12:43:04Z
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Can anyone explain in plain English what web3 actually is? I apparently missed the memo.
(DIR) Post #AHs7IpeaXMEkOA2hwu by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
2022-03-28T12:44:41.847958Z
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@fribbledom > what if second life but cryptocurrency and facebook
(DIR) Post #AHs7KitscIzK1T64Wm by wizard@xyzzy.link
2022-03-28T12:45:02.792834Z
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@fribbledom cryptocurrency internet, the sequel to web 2.0
(DIR) Post #AHs7KsW8rPwRqk4Fuq by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2022-03-28T12:44:48Z
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@fribbledom It's a marketing term so it's not necessary to search for a precise and concrete definition. You can use it for anything that uses a blockchain (may be with dapps).
(DIR) Post #AHs7PBAlRWUKrl7SAC by penguin42@mastodon.org.uk
2022-03-28T12:45:51Z
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@fribbledom Oh you don't want to do that; if you did then people would realise it's all a scam.
(DIR) Post #AHs7XRRSq04Hdos1HE by wizard@xyzzy.link
2022-03-28T12:47:20.403550Z
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@fribbledom imagine that the decentralized internet that FOSS activists have been advocating for came true, except the people bankrolling it are crypto billionaires obsessed with web technology
(DIR) Post #AHs7ZASYwrWZYDCuLQ by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2022-03-28T12:47:39Z
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@fribbledom it's about taking every piece if content on the web and turning it into an investment asset that you can own in a decentralized way by means of NFTs.Some say it's to make sure authors get paid fairly withiut intermediaries. But IMO it's just to provide more things to speculate on.
(DIR) Post #AHs7b8bIpb0QMeEbuC by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-03-28T12:48:02.063459Z
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@bortzmeyer @fribbledom it sucks, it used to mean something else (federated Web, decentralised with things like ipfs, etc.) 😔
(DIR) Post #AHs7lGYA89dlulayCO by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-03-28T12:49:50.104Z
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@fribbledom@mastodon.social Web3 is a buzzword that cryptobros use to call the decentralized internet. But for marketing reasons they do not include any decentralized services that don't use cryptocurrency or aren't hip, trendy or profitable.
(DIR) Post #AHs80hBDP4uwqjDenQ by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2022-03-28T12:52:32Z
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@helene @fribbledom The Web is decentralized. It's not the Web that is in need of decentralization, it's Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.
(DIR) Post #AHs87ImEX0Y7BygUmO by onan@dobbs.town
2022-03-28T12:53:48Z
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@fribbledom Every negative thing that every other post is saying.In the positive, as a potential outcome, more peer to peer communication and publishing. It's possible some good and some less good will come out of web3 - kind of like anything else, ever, always."Blockchain is always bad" advocates might be in the right. I suggest they look at Secure Scuttlebutt, particularly Manyverse, and then reconsider. They may still be in the right.https://scuttlebutt.nzhttps://manuver.se
(DIR) Post #AHs88YQdp9ck1bBLxA by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-03-28T12:54:04.439045Z
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@bortzmeyer @fribbledom well, yeah, indeed. and so do things like AWS, GCS, etci just remember this term being thrown around way before eth stuff
(DIR) Post #AHs8MvPjA7JFMmbhjM by im@pouet.it
2022-03-28T12:56:30Z
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@bortzmeyer I think web 3.0, that how was called the "semantic web" more than a decade ago, as far as I can remember.@helene @fribbledom
(DIR) Post #AHs8Qgdy1I90iQ3rm4 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2022-03-28T12:57:11Z
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@im @helene @fribbledom web3 ≠web3.0
(DIR) Post #AHs8TijSi8FK3u4uRM by onan@dobbs.town
2022-03-28T12:57:53Z
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@fribbledom Every negative thing that every other post is saying.In the positive, as a potential outcome, more peer to peer communication and publishing. It's possible some good and some less good will come out of web3 - kind of like anything else, ever, always."Blockchain is always bad" advocates might be in the right. I suggest they look at Secure Scuttlebutt, particularly Manyverse, and then reconsider. They may still be in the right.https://scuttlebutt.nzhttps://manyver.se
(DIR) Post #AHsD0OMRs3nkFr9FZY by ketmorco@mastodon.technology
2022-03-28T13:48:33Z
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@wolf480pl @fribbledom but wait, there's more!You can write decentralized apps that don't run on your computer or my computer or the cloud computers but they run on the Blockchain and store their data on the Blockchain.Ya know, in case you want less computing power. That burns way more fossil fuels.
(DIR) Post #AHsDqt274ubCRNfTHc by phoe@functional.cafe
2022-03-28T12:46:43Z
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@fribbledom Web3, Web3.0, n.: scam.no need to thank me
(DIR) Post #AHsDqtXfBbpu1EQfSa by kurt@social.thiskurt.me
2022-03-28T13:05:05Z
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@phoe @fribbledom Hey, hey, don't lump Web 3.0 in with Web3; Web 3.0, or the Semantic Web, was never going to work, but at least it wasn't a cynical scam.
(DIR) Post #AHsDqtyxY7fdNtCT0S by clacke@libranet.de
2022-03-28T13:38:53Z
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Alternatively, Web 3.0 is here and ActivityPub runs on it. 😉I'm half serious.
(DIR) Post #AHsG1EMIqQh9NwAhbk by zudn@theres.life
2022-03-28T14:21:16Z
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@fribbledom From the chatter I hear, it's the complete domination of the internet by corporate dictators.
(DIR) Post #AHsG1ExWc2T9FNaQcq by 0@husk.site
2022-03-28T14:22:22.912811Z
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@zudn @fribbledom Behold, the fool.
(DIR) Post #AHsMGOGEuUbMAHwnkO by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2022-03-28T15:32:20.898079Z
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@fribbledom It's just the web but instead of monetizing your website with ads and making people login with google/facebook you monetize it with crypto and make people login with their wallet.
(DIR) Post #AHsOXt1hyek0PjcZay by pre@boing.world
2022-03-28T15:57:49Z
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@onan @fribbledom It's basically bollocks, but to the extent that it isn't bollocks it could maybe fix some of the centrally controlled identity mechanisms we've come to use.Who are you? Currently you are your email address or phone number or maybe your login at Facebook or Google.You might one day be your crypto-wallet I guess?Probably not though. Mostly it's just bollocks.
(DIR) Post #AHt3jenQo6c3sKfsbw by Azure@tailswish.industries
2022-03-28T23:39:28.038312Z
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@fribbledom One of two things:Web3, in Current Buzzwhatever, is faux-decentralization where everything is /on the blockchain/ in some sense. Faux because everything in practice will use a very small number of entry points.Also there's the more philosophical objection that a single totalized information model is still centralized. Consider the difference between something like the GNU Name Service which uses a Petname system so that what a name resolves to depends on your own personal trust relations to something like the Blockchain which is basically just like a centralized registrar including cybersquatting.Web 3.0 has ALSO been used to refer to The Semantic Web. Making more data available in machine-usable format that isn't as bound up in silos and whatnot, ideally.Some people have tried to combine the two: "Hey, what if our machine-readable semantic web were ON THE BLOCKCHAIN?" but haven't got much traction.
(DIR) Post #AHt4Y6k3BGVl1f9LcG by punkscience@linernotes.club
2022-03-28T21:22:01Z
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@fribbledomThe cynicism on here is ... ick. Web3 as I understand it, is the rebuilding of web technologies on decentralized services using crypto technologies, blockchain, and distributed systems.
(DIR) Post #AHt4Y7MgrbQ4xVECqO by clacke@libranet.de
2022-03-28T23:33:35Z
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@punkscience @fribbledom If you look at Twitter's Bluesky project you'll get where people are coming from: - What if Twitter ... but decentralized! - The Fediverse is only two years younger than Twitter. - Yeah, but what if ... you could have community moderation. - Fediverse did it. - It's not decentralized! - It's not centralized. I can run my own server. - But there's no blockchain!
(DIR) Post #AHwNgo5eNSkQO8ziDI by me@social.jlamothe.net
2022-03-28T23:37:41Z
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Don't get me wrong. The blockchain is an interesting technology, but it's inefficient as hell and keeps getting used as a "solution" to things only because it's the technology du jour, not because it's actually a good solution to the specific problem.
(DIR) Post #AHwNgpD8D8KHrdVCVs by punkscience@linernotes.club
2022-03-30T13:07:33Z
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@me @fribbledom @clacke @pre @clayote @babelcarp @wolf480pl @TritTriton @max @SigmaOne @penguin42 @yngmar @aoife @padeluun @Tak @zudn @claudius @gudenau @helene @bortzmeyer @datacop @phoe @gedvondur @flame @onan @Whidou @im @cjk @mcevnon @kurt @baumwolltier @inanedirk @arthurlutzim @sebastian @jollysea @logoninternet @trox @angdraug @Baggypants @richard @mDuo13 Like any new tech, people are looking for an interesting way to use it or implement it (often as a way to learn more about it). So yes, it's tech du jour. But from that experimentation is exactly how you get an inefficient tech more efficient. You need to drive innovation and so we should be embracing and (ideally) pushing through this phase of bro-adoption in order to improve it and figure out what it's strengths are. We're already seeing this -- consider proof of stake vs proof of work.
(DIR) Post #AHwNgpfqUNILIgw8Gm by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2022-03-30T14:07:06Z
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@punkscience well that's mutation, you also need selection. Mutation without selection will lead to degeneracy.IOW, if people don't scrutinize every $trendyTech-using project and call out its bullshit, there will be no incentive for projects to be any good