Post AHlgKmaB3yd3jRvRfU by gabmus@linuxrocks.online
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(DIR) Post #AHkMcZh3WxR8jEODBY by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T18:58:36Z
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Took a bit of time to write down my opinions on #libadwaita https://blog.brixit.nl/the-end-of-the-nice-gtk-button/
(DIR) Post #AHkR5VViYqTryD8bJ2 by minkiu@mastodon.social
2022-03-24T19:48:34Z
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@martijnbraam small typo: "downside of having of having some of the worst".I still have to look properly at it, but some apps Ive seen the buttons are differnet backround colour (still flat tho).Would a solution having a non-flat fork of adwaita? 🤔Lets see what more involves people have to say about it, but you have valid points.
(DIR) Post #AHkRECB7o5GycQeGXY by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T19:50:11Z
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@minkiu I think it makes sense to split off the nice layout widgets (that are invisible) from libadwaita and the extremely opinionated theming stuff
(DIR) Post #AHkRParONgZkLxqzRI by minkiu@mastodon.social
2022-03-24T19:52:17Z
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@martijnbraam i always got the feeling that by bundling them, they were implying: "if you want to theme, start from this" but again, mostly ignorant of the ins and thats my personal extrapolation... but oh well.
(DIR) Post #AHkRTNTQ5u25zfRfCS by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T19:52:59Z
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@minkiu I don't want the theme, I want the HdyClamp control but on gtk4
(DIR) Post #AHkTqCbercSwrIJHM0 by piegames@flausch.social
2022-03-24T20:19:29Z
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@martijnbraam This is a really nuanced and well written take on the subject.Regarding the community, this topic is toxic on both sides of the discourse. Especially the Solus folks have been pretty … "unprofessional" about this, but they're not the only ones
(DIR) Post #AHkf2gsRF8CNiDJfSS by jawsh@fedi.jmizzle.com
2022-03-24T22:24:16.867367Z
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@martijnbraam the libadwaita apps not at least switching to a dark variant is super annoying. I'd be happy with Adwaita/Adwaita dark being the only supported themes for Gnome if we could also set the accent color. I need a dark theme paired with green accents. I've got that mostly working set with the green Adwaita Color variant theme I found on Gnome-look.
(DIR) Post #AHkf2hMDSQ1BCZFRs8 by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T22:24:53Z
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@jawsh heh I also maintain a green adwaita variant for postmarketOS :P
(DIR) Post #AHkfavD2SjX40bH5Au by sonny@floss.social
2022-03-24T22:31:08Z
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@martijnbraamThere is a "raise" css class for buttons in libawaita to unflatten them.
(DIR) Post #AHkfjMqTb0pu2MkSky by jawsh@fedi.jmizzle.com
2022-03-24T22:31:56.893906Z
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@martijnbraam you made a green AMOLED theme, yes? would that work with other distros as well if copied into the themes folder or is it somehow pmOS dependent?
(DIR) Post #AHkfjNLfj1n1b7LNNg by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T22:32:44Z
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@jawsh the theme has 4 variants, adwaita green, adwaita dark green, adwaita oled green and adwaita paper green.Should work perfectly fine on any distro, I'm also using it on arch
(DIR) Post #AHkfp1ym5Z233kKXvE by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T22:33:46Z
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@sonny how does that look like?
(DIR) Post #AHkgrhpBa029NEgVhg by jawsh@fedi.jmizzle.com
2022-03-24T22:44:06.948172Z
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@martijnbraam link to DL? I'd like to take look at it. the oled I assume are true(r) blacks vs just a dark variant? if so that is exactly what I have been looking for.
(DIR) Post #AHkgriIFpvHmpOHj0q by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T22:45:25Z
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@jawsh https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/postmarketos-themeIt's a pure black theme yes
(DIR) Post #AHkhSrpXLFJL7WZK7s by sonny@floss.social
2022-03-24T22:52:10Z
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@martijnbraamHowever you want I guess? Every toolkit comes with a default theme, as a developer you can make your apps look however you want. Lots of people dislike the GTK 3 theme.There is already a discussion about borderless buttons.https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libadwaita/-/issues/228Where did you send your feedback?
(DIR) Post #AHkhWomUcVS0p21qtc by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-24T22:52:54Z
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@sonny Speaking with the designers in various chatrooms and getting immediately shut down
(DIR) Post #AHkkL6DMHG5BHIhNNg by sonny@floss.social
2022-03-24T23:24:23Z
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@martijnbraamEverybody on that issue, designers and developers agree that there is a problem with the flat buttons.It only took searching for "flat" in libadwaita issues to find it.
(DIR) Post #AHl4Rt1lhciHUQn7su by normandc@fosstodon.org
2022-03-25T03:09:41Z
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@martijnbraam I hate flat themes too, so count me in the madmen club.It's like we live in a 2D world now. Who cares about readability and usability, right? 🤦♀️
(DIR) Post #AHlA9e0jOZ5XQdzUpc by arefgee@mastodon.online
2022-03-25T04:13:39Z
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@martijnbraam Cannot disagree with you. Although, I'm still waiting for Gnome to upgrade on Debian, from v38. :p
(DIR) Post #AHlgKmaB3yd3jRvRfU by gabmus@linuxrocks.online
2022-03-25T10:14:13Z
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@martijnbraam Interesting thoughts, I think there's room to talk about it. I love the new libadwaita look, but I can understand your point and I think there's something to it.Not sure what the right direction forward would be here, tho.
(DIR) Post #AHlyz0hDo4pYGMYI9w by be@floss.social
2022-03-24T20:40:24Z
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@minkiu @martijnbraam Or uh, let users choose a theme that fits their personal taste instead of hardcoding it into a library and telling anyone who doesn't like it to fork off?
(DIR) Post #AHlyz1FxiucU06o2JE by minkiu@mastodon.social
2022-03-25T13:32:04Z
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@be I think the belief is since 90% devs are awfull at design they want to provide a baseline with the toolkit, at the end libadwaita is a collection of widgets + theme, nothing stops you from reimplementing that widget you are after, right?I am not against you, just playing devil's advocate.@martijnbraam
(DIR) Post #AHlyz1j1yps7SGPFcO by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
2022-03-25T13:43:02Z
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@minkiu @be yes, true. But I feel like forking off libadwaita and making my own widget collection that's adwaita without the theme parts is a huge waste of time and ideally this would have some upstream solution, like the ability to not load the theming parts of libadwaita
(DIR) Post #AHmHGLuE07ea8q3MQq by davidak@chaos.social
2022-03-25T17:07:59Z
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@martijnbraam i also don't like flat design. it feels as it has no values, being too liberal, want to please everyone. it fit's google, but not @gnome games on the other hands are more mature, are not safe-for-work and provoke emotions and often have a more physical theme, even for UI. but newer games also use the now modern Glassmorphism stylei like the current design of @elementary OS which is very clean and elegant with a bit of dimension (3D buttons, slight gradients)
(DIR) Post #AHmHfN4So2Q8zjlwDw by davidak@chaos.social
2022-03-25T17:12:27Z
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@martijnbraam i also don't like flat design. it feels as it has no values, being too liberal, want to please everyone. it fit's google, but not @gnome games on the other hands are more mature, are not safe-for-work and provoke emotions and often have a more physical theme. but newer games also use the now modern Glassmorphism style for UIi like the current design of @elementary OS which is very clean and elegant, with a bit of depth (3D buttons, slight gradients)