Post AGGon3wDFX35DPyopE by ombres@438punk.house
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(DIR) Post #AGGnP0EpFnNapveL0y by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T13:46:53Z
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"Today in the capital of America, we are all here, the almost liberated and the slightly repressed; the butch, the femme, and everything in-between; the androgynous; the monogamous and the promiscuous; the masturbators and the fellators and the tribadists; men in dresses and women in neckties; those who bite and those who cuddle; celebates and pederasts; diesel dykes and nelly queens; amazons and size queens..."(1/2)
(DIR) Post #AGGnP0ph2is0gGtmTo by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T13:47:58Z
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"...the shorthaired and the long; the fat and the thin; the nude and the prude; the beauties and the beasts; the studs and the duds; the communes, the couples, and the singles; pubescents and the octogenarians. Yes, we are all here! We are everywhere! Welcome to the March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights!"ok, so there's really onely one word that's BAAAAD, and it's "pederast"this is from a speech in '79 btw
(DIR) Post #AGGnP1WwRvSsqP8JtI by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T13:51:09Z
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let it just be said, I am reading this for Reasons, also I like history and this is less my normal style but it counts, and I do think there's like, something to be said for knowing the actual history of Pride when people do the annual "kink at Pride" discourse on the internet, Save the Children, blah blah blahbut also, like, geez louise sometimes, lol
(DIR) Post #AGGnP25KO4yEZ3DmUK by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T13:54:40Z
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I mean the French from Francebasically, ok, the word "pédé" short for "pedophile" is a common slur for gay men specifically in France (we say "tapette" here, more like "pansy")aaaaand this has been reclaimed by like, French radqueers ??? like "faggot" or "queer"such that "transpédégouine" is a term you see in French radical lit sometimesand it's likeI am 100% not feeling this one my dudes and enbies 👀
(DIR) Post #AGGnP2aAXPdm6hePYm by peoplelikedogs@438punk.house
2022-02-08T14:02:56Z
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@ombres yes I was really weirded out by this when I was in france a few years ago, I'm surprised you hadn't encountered that! TPG seemed to be the equivalent of queer from what I could tell (which kinda makes sense cause queer is a homophone with cuir, which is also kinda funny and perfect, although this doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone in quebec where I just hear people use queer in french)
(DIR) Post #AGGnP3BkHhhLzFEQ88 by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T14:05:59Z
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@peoplelikedogs oh I've known about it for years, and rejected it both before AND after I understood it 😆just to infodump about French terminology more: apparently in the early '90s, people tried to make "allosexuel" a thing, as an equiv to "queer", but it didn't catch cuz it sucks. and of course later anglo ace folks would repurpose that term as meaning basically "not asexual"!
(DIR) Post #AGGnP3gaR2MtWtf3Ca by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T14:09:10Z
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@peoplelikedogs I accept that "pédé" sort of just means "gay man", not "pedophile", even though the "all gay men are pedophiles" is baked right in thereso, like, if I was in high school and I was standing up to my bullies or somethjing, I might think it's provisionally okay to say "actually fuck you I am a pédé"but seems like, as a collective identity we are gonna affirm and give positive meaning to, it's not great!
(DIR) Post #AGGnP47Worv2sSGZCC by nathan@mastodon.zapashcanon.fr
2022-02-08T14:44:40Z
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@ombres @peoplelikedogs "pédé" is used since a really long time. It is completely disconnected from its root "pédéraste" now. Everyone use it without knowing it came from that. wikipedia says that even in the XVI century it just mean gay and not pedo.It is overwhelmingly the most used slur, that's why gays use it also. And its short too.
(DIR) Post #AGGon3wDFX35DPyopE by ombres@438punk.house
2022-02-08T15:00:48Z
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@nathan j'accepte que des gens sont pas activement conscients de l'histoire du mot en l'utilisant, mais pour les 'phobes qui l'utilisent en manière d'insulte, j'imagine la connexion est encore plus clair!y'a beaucoup de problèmes plus pertinents bien sûr et d'autres gens vont utiliser les termes qu'ils veulent, mais au gré que le français est aussi ma langue... ben sais pas, j'ai cet opinion, c'est juste qu'il me n'impressione pas trop chill, haha
(DIR) Post #AGGqoZjWiipU1btZSq by nathan@mastodon.zapashcanon.fr
2022-02-08T15:23:28Z
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@ombres ouai j'imagine que la connexion existe encore pour certain lolperso je l'utilise beaucoup sans trop réfléchir, je trouve que c'est un bon moyen de désarmer les connard de leur insulte homophobe favorite