Post AEmNw3dPHaNmYsp6ae by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
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(DIR) Post #AEgIgKXN0R4ldDvBaq by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-23T02:19:23.632756Z
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How hard do artists struggle to make money and are NFTs really a good solution?
(DIR) Post #AEh7SEuIEo0jmHgKi8 by lxo@gnusocial.net
2021-12-23T03:54:31Z
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if they want the money they could make themselves to be made by and for someone else, sure!
(DIR) Post #AEh7SFMIYgPdB8mhMW by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-23T11:48:15.783444Z
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@lxo Don't the initial auctions raise a lot of money that mostly goes to the artist?
(DIR) Post #AEmG7JEmoR7yVOA4fo by lxo@gnusocial.net
2021-12-24T06:44:44Z
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I suppose if you look into the matter you'll find that's the exception rather than the rule, if it happens at all
(DIR) Post #AEmG7JfNDaOXpqbJ7A by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-25T23:18:54.156738Z
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@lxo Ok. Maybe that's true. But does it have to happen that way? What's stopping an artist from making lots of money on NFTs?
(DIR) Post #AEmHemxRQyoWBvZoXY by silverpill@mitra.social
2021-12-23T15:47:33.036523Z
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@Hyolobrika NFTs have de-institutionalized art practice and started the second renaissance. Yes, it is a good solution.
(DIR) Post #AEmHenQVgu49e5B1qi by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-25T23:36:08.196305Z
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@silverpill How have they de-institutionalised art practise? Already by the time you could buy and sell things on the internet you could buy, sell, and commission art, and before then it was possible to flog your paintings on a street corner. No need for NFTs.
(DIR) Post #AEmJn71gu4t0eqf3AG by lxo@gnusocial.net
2021-12-25T23:27:14Z
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basically trust. NFTs pretend to be decentralized, but an NFT proponent told me the other day that you need a trustworthy party to mint the NFT for it to be taken seriously. it's a bit like money: it's a system in which anyone can "print money", but only "bills" printed by trusted parties will be taken seriously
(DIR) Post #AEmJn7U3CdZU4nvhMu by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-26T00:00:01.221807Z
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@lxo Really? Well then it's more stupid than I thought (I would never buy one, I just thought that if artists were struggling then maybe they would be a good way for them to make money).That doesn't make sense to me though. Surely if the artist themself mints them, well, then there's no one more trustworthy, is there.
(DIR) Post #AEmJx4oG03LSg9831c by lain@lain.com
2021-12-26T00:01:50.325723Z
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@Hyolobrika @lxo no, this is not true. Minting on your own contract is the preferred solution.
(DIR) Post #AEmNw34fMkaqp8ZMRM by silverpill@mitra.social
2021-12-26T00:29:38.450659Z
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@Hyolobrika The art market used to have a lot of gatekeepers. Now anyone from any country can sell art on the internet and make a lot of money without asking a permission. Even anons from 4chan can sell memes. Yes it was possible to sell jpegs long before blockchain existed but NFTs introduced a concept of ownership and it changed everything. This is entirely new way to monetize creative work where artists actually benefit from wide distribution of their works in contrast to intellectual property laws that are used to prevent information from spreading.
(DIR) Post #AEmNw3dPHaNmYsp6ae by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-26T00:46:29.403717Z
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@silverpill That’s not a de-institutionalization of art practise as a whole. That’s a de-institutionalisation of art ‘sale’ on the internet. You could still practice art, and you could still sell it physically, but you could not sell it digitally due to the nature of information, which NFTs don’t solve anyway. They don’t enable you to sell the art, they just enable you to sell the NFT, which has only a loose connection to the art as the latter can easily be set free from the former by the simple act of right-clicking.
(DIR) Post #AEmO0aS7CzJdVEhYVE by lain@lain.com
2021-12-26T00:47:19.268422Z
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@Hyolobrika @silverpill the art of any picture can be "set free" by taking a picture
(DIR) Post #AEmOHWjoGxMSuB3VrM by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-12-26T00:50:22.639732Z
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@lain @Hyolobrika @silverpill is just not true. can try to 3d scan and print an oil painting if you have lots of resources and get nearly copy, but mural is hopeless
(DIR) Post #AEnuRogxlXhVAxdO0e by silverpill@mitra.social
2021-12-26T01:33:17.109889Z
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@Hyolobrika>That’s not a de-institutionalization of art practise as a whole. That’s a de-institutionalisation of art ‘sale’ on the internet.True, but these are connected. Great art requires a lot of work and some artworks would not have existed if there were no buyer for them. Also the freed art market gives prominence to artists who otherwise could have been ignored or suppressed by existing institutions.>They don’t enable you to sell the artThey do. Selling is the act of transferring ownership and both NFT artists and collectors think about NFTs as a certificate of ownership for digital art.
(DIR) Post #AEnuRpAjypWIfJZAQK by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
2021-12-26T18:25:30.519130Z
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@silverpill But you are selling the certificate, not the art. The art is open to anyone. The certificate doesn't grant any exclusive rights other than bragging rights.