Post ADRjttPrdnFO84pGls by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #ADPP2SGD9BDvOFA920 by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T00:12:40Z
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As a free software activist I believe everyone should have access to all the source code running on their computer (whether or not it's been compiled beforehand) & the right to fork it.That said I don't believe you as a developer need to publish everything you write publicly for all to see. You can argue for erring on the side of openness, but if you don't want the responsibility...And I have no problem with seeking funding (I don't like needing money to live, but that's another issue).1/?
(DIR) Post #ADPP2SnX9HsX3akkyG by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T00:20:30Z
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I've recently read a couple recent blogposts from disillusioned free software activists, and I don't fully disagree with them. There are vocal toxic subcommunities in our by-now bigtent movement, which needs to be called out. I find "fossbro" to be a useful term for this.However those blogposts seem to maintain fossbros' fixation on licensing, where I reckon we've moved beyond that being a cure-all if it ever was. Tempts me to write my own...2/4?
(DIR) Post #ADPP2TMd2nx2oRAmfo by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T00:31:07Z
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What do I view as being toxic?* Insist everyone must want to put time into customizing their computers.* Insist every Linux user (or worse computer user) needs to understand how computers work.People may have other things to do!* Villify software projects you don't like; You don't have to use them! systemd haters can have their own distros!Often a fossbro will villify a project for hiding configuration options...* Telling others "just fork it" and/or villifying subsequent forks.3/4
(DIR) Post #ADQsSUJpY5uotz3DtY by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T01:00:38Z
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Also sometimes you'll see the narrative "Look how much we can accomplish when we work together! Millions of lines of code!" This is thankfully dying down, but I think it's problematic in a different way.Because when a project's too large, it's impractical to exercise any of the Four Freedoms you might legally have. To e.g. alter Chrome or Firefox & keep it working.And I do reckon established projects should invest in solid governance to give non-programmers influence over it.4/4
(DIR) Post #ADQsSUr9YCZQZKdppo by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T06:19:38Z
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I drafted an article on this topic (see above thread).I'll add some links & publish tomorrow, though I'm not sure I'm keen to dig up examples of fossbro toxicity.So can you please link me to examples where they're suggesting:* You should understand computers to use Linux* You must want to customize your computer* They feel entitled to dictate the direction of project (GNOME?) that doesn't want to serve them* Death threats due to that (systemd?)* "just fork it"* Hey you forked it, bad!
(DIR) Post #ADQsSVLzhXEy6z4SuG by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-15T17:52:45Z
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@alcinnz Yes to all you said.I think maybe he's kinda subtooting you (and others), btw, @selea
(DIR) Post #ADQtMkiZlSDZynSEim by Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net
2021-11-15T18:02:57.065812Z
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@alcinnz I think "fork it" is fine for very small and well-documented projects. Some things are designed to be forkable.I wouldn't tell someone to fork a 100k+ line codebase, ofc.
(DIR) Post #ADR5OgRHqK8mjp3SbY by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-11-15T20:17:44Z
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@avalos @alcinnz Ouch, you mean that I fit into that description? I feel sad for the people around me then
(DIR) Post #ADR6CUKJ9ROTePXURs by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-15T20:26:45Z
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@selea @alcinnz No, no, it's just that you recently wrote a post about being kinda demotivated about Free Software and the movement, criticizing them. And maybe Adrian is addressing some of your criticism and others'.
(DIR) Post #ADR74rny4j6m6aLHBw by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-15T20:36:35Z
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@selea @alcinnz Adrian also commented to a post I tooted where the author criticized Free Software using the word “freetardism”, and he also mentioned the term “fossbros”.
(DIR) Post #ADR7h4EQJzIJeMvqBk by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T20:43:28Z
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@avalos @selea I picked the term up from someone on the fediverse, I forgot who. And I doubt they coined it.
(DIR) Post #ADRO1Cx9ChD3l0Td3o by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T01:07:15Z
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@openrisk There's certainly the angle that we explicitly allow for competition, whereas proprietary software often tries to squash it...Also: I rarely see governance issues discussed...
(DIR) Post #ADRO4FfHZsDh2KZWxE by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T01:26:33Z
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@openrisk Yes! Absolutely!Our coopetition reduces our need for coordination, at least that's what I'm striving for.
(DIR) Post #ADRO4GENTOICnAzYem by be@fosstodon.org
2021-11-15T01:41:05Z
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@alcinnz @openrisk I think coopetition increases the need for coordination. This is why FreeDesktop exists.
(DIR) Post #ADRSNbe0TyMuWVSZI8 by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T00:30:55.334817Z
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@alcinnzTrouble is, if people don't have at least a rough idea of how a computer works, it's too easy for them to fall prey to scams and dark patterns...
(DIR) Post #ADRSUyUZvtMtPbYzXk by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T00:36:36Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz I agree, everyone should really have at least a minimum amount of computer knowledge and skills, just as everyone needs to have a minimum amount of life knowledge and skills. Because, you know, computers are part of our lives. We need to understand them if we don't want to be controlled by them!
(DIR) Post #ADRSo8QPE9v3igkQyW by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T00:40:04Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz Computer engineers and programmers shouldn't be an “elite” in a world where everyone relies on computers. In a world where we can fully exercise the Free Software freedoms, there has to be at least a minimum number of computer engineers/programmers per capita, and a far greater amount of computer knowledgeable people per capita.
(DIR) Post #ADRSuP5GCd8r7kqXWS by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T00:40:52Z
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@avalos @DHeadshot @alcinnz bingo. Because the prevailing ignorance and (proprietary software-induced) learnt helplessness has, I believe, led us into a digital Dark Age. https://davelane.nz/darkage
(DIR) Post #ADRTd2QXHrGNt156LA by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T00:48:50.831788Z
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@lightweight'90s-'00s was a bad time for computer education as it just focused on "This is how you use Microsoft Office". We're now looking at the results of that. While people in general might not have stuck to Microsoft, the mindset has set in.@alcinnz@avalos
(DIR) Post #ADRUCXNSCras0pZDc0 by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-16T00:46:18Z
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@lightweight @avalos @DHeadshot Yeah I'd agree to saying there needs to be more programmers & computer-knowledgable people within our various communities. I think it's very worthwhile for me to spread knowledge about how GNU/Linux works (whilst double checking it's not doing anything nefarious)!That doesn't mean I can't oppose people who exclude based on lack of this knowledge, or respect those who decided on other paths.
(DIR) Post #ADRUCXtMIF79bmUhLE by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T00:54:44.225711Z
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@alcinnzMeeting someone who is ignorant of a subject isn't an opportunity to exclude but to (tactfully) educate. Rather than setting a high entry bar, we need to encourage people to get involved. However, if people get involved with differing opinions on a topic, we can't exclude there either, but nor should we try necessarily to arrogantly "reeducate". We should listen and discuss, so as to both learn...@lightweight @avalos
(DIR) Post #ADRUCZOahbgwGw79f6 by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T00:55:41Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz @lightweight And that doesn't only apply to computers!
(DIR) Post #ADRV9iU2YbuxXjrmlM by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T01:06:01Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz @lightweight *cough* *cough* BBC Micro.
(DIR) Post #ADRbxrDgwvNYqIVnVI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T02:22:24Z
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@alcinnzLinks please for these blog posts?
(DIR) Post #ADRceSlhjcp1SZjkgK by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-16T02:30:08Z
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@strypey https://www.paritybit.ca/blog/free-software-is-an-abject-failurehttps://martin.kleppmann.com/2021/04/14/goodbye-gpl.htmlAnd @avalos found another linkI find it telling that in all these cases they're still fixating on licensing...
(DIR) Post #ADRcrf1xSJrfFrdHaC by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T02:32:45Z
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@alcinnz @strypey @selea See?
(DIR) Post #ADRdiTTp8BVYmNqlYu by avalos@mstdn.social
2021-11-16T02:42:18Z
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@alcinnz @strypey The link I found was: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/freetardism.html
(DIR) Post #ADRjttPrdnFO84pGls by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T00:49:20Z
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@alcinnz @avalos @DHeadshot I agree we can't/shouldn't discriminate, but we must acknowledge that digital literacy is no longer a "nice to have". It's a survival basic. Just like people don't need to be able to disassemble and reassemble their car... but they do have to understand the physics of driving and not ignore that little "warning" light in the dash. Most computer users have no where near the "minimum understanding" required to function in today's world.
(DIR) Post #ADRjtvMOPfeu9tDWdc by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T00:51:34Z
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@alcinnz @avalos @DHeadshot prior to the digital age, professionals made it a matter of "professional pride" to be *experts* in the use of their chosen field's/profession's toolset. That is no longer true. We need to return to that sense of pride and duty to "know your tools". Otherwise, we're throwing all control to a bunch of demonstrably evil corporate autocracies (whose motives are best served by a docile, ignorant user base).
(DIR) Post #ADRoHJ1wyP1O313moC by lunch@cybre.space
2021-11-16T04:40:38Z
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@avalos @DHeadshot @alcinnz this is related to why I've started to consider proprietary software *inherently classist*it establishes a distinction between developer/publisher and user, as the former holds all the control and can coerce the latter into doing things that may not be in their own best interest, usually with the goal of profit
(DIR) Post #ADSh5KziCjZygEXVxY by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-11-16T14:54:43Z
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@avalos Yeah, I remember now. I think I compared it to some religious people. @alcinnz
(DIR) Post #ADSh8xXpKdxt6uDvEW by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-11-16T14:55:04Z
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@alcinnz I do think that the term fossbro is great :D@avalos
(DIR) Post #ADSoNnAYynLetryeHo by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T01:06:42Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz @avalos computer education is generally horrible because it's been almost entirely outsourced to the very autocratic entities in whose interest it is best to have a docile and ignorant populace. There are much better models: https://davelane.nz/different-approach-digital-technology-schools
(DIR) Post #ADSoNnhB1XR6X1Eh7Y by morgenthau@mastodon.lol
2021-11-16T14:19:44Z
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@lightweight @DHeadshot @alcinnz @avalos I do not believe, that computer skills are a necessity to educate people about privacy and media literacy. Access to smartphones and computers is a huge privilege. Many people do not own a computer at all, but only a smartphone, which they depend on for communication. Most humans worldwide have completely different problems that are existential, they cannot be asked to learn about computers. I think media literacy and privacy should be the focus.
(DIR) Post #ADSoNoJohsLQSrJYLg by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2021-11-16T16:16:15.169675Z
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@morgenthau @lightweight @DHeadshot @alcinnz @avalos Yes, in fact you do not need to own what most people think of as a computer to be subject to their surveillance.(ie. credit cards, RFID badges, surveillance cameras and other photography rights, …)
(DIR) Post #ADSoNpbvu0QiTKnXE0 by morgenthau@mastodon.lol
2021-11-16T14:22:54Z
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@lightweight @DHeadshot @alcinnz @avalos to specify: of course your average inner city youth in Berlin has a smartphone and whatsapp, but do they really depend on it? probably not. As a person living in rural places of the so called third world, that is totally different and whatsapp might be the only viable means of communication... you can't expect some farmer somewhere to switch to signal, they have other worries. Like not getting flagged as a dissident because of using encryption...
(DIR) Post #ADT28BDLDEvYCNj5l2 by morgenthau@mastodon.lol
2021-11-16T16:23:02Z
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@lanodan @alcinnz @lightweight @avalos @DHeadshot well that is besides my point, rather: what might seem like convenience to people that are used to choices, could be a scarce resource for others that they desperately need. and most people living on this planet need to first escape war and hunger, before they can even afford the luxury of thinking about privacy or technology at all.
(DIR) Post #ADT28BqgqwP2AQ8W5g by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T18:48:35Z
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@morgenthau @lanodan @alcinnz @avalos @DHeadshot which is why those of us fortunate enough to not have those existential threats should a) work to help those who have them, and b) defuse the digital threats that they haven't had the headspace or access to tech to confront yet, before they have to do so.
(DIR) Post #ADTJBwp8M9Exwkmn5c by markusl@fosstodon.org
2021-11-16T22:01:44Z
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@avalos @DHeadshot @alcinnz I think you've expressed an important idea: in a world where computers are used both to empower people and to disempower and control people, we need to democratise the understanding of computers to keep people strong. And that means so much more than just booting Windows and firing up Office: it means understanding the social, psychological and economic aspects of the ways in which computers are used today. Knowing how to use a keyboard and mouse is only the start.
(DIR) Post #ADTjMQ0bIe0sAMnqGu by humanetech@mastodon.social
2021-11-15T21:08:28Z
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@alcinnz There's a term for it: Purity Spirals"A purity spiral occurs when a community becomes fixated on implementing a single value that has no upper limit, and no single agreed interpretation. The result is a moral feeding frenzy.[..]It is a social dynamic that plays out across that community — a process of moral outbidding, unchecked, which corrodes the group from within, rewarding those who put themselves at the extremes, and punishing nuance and divergence relentlessly."
(DIR) Post #ADTjMRueDkRK4U27Gq by humanetech@mastodon.social
2021-11-15T21:09:55Z
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@alcinnz This quoted from an article that in itself had a lot to criticize on, but I liked that particular definition of Purity Spirals as a concept.Posted on our community forum about it, here: https://community.humanetech.com/t/social-media-and-purity-spirals/5263
(DIR) Post #ADTnkUpXQNQdt2MhX6 by donkeyblam@tech.lgbt
2021-11-17T03:42:26Z
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@alcinnz Yeah, the four freedoms would be protected a lot more in practice if the GPL was a social domain license and the community hard moved away from things like linux and firefox as opposed to things like a forked BSD, an actually made and better documented Hurd, etc.
(DIR) Post #ADU0MTpulcTpG4Q5kO by Valenoern@floss.social
2021-11-17T05:51:11Z
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@alcinnz I've always felt like encouraging everyone to configure computers is valuable, /however/ configuration should only take a few minutes for most people and never be confusingpart of my reasoning is, I think it'd be much easier to get accessibility features normalised and actively maintained if we stopped putting them in a special category of their own and thus encouraged everyone to try them out and see what they do(to this end, it would be nice if it wasn't hard to turn them off.)
(DIR) Post #ADUUOlvpSOi8aHCA6q by TMakarios@theres.life
2021-11-15T22:10:45Z
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@alcinnzTempts you to write your own blogpost, or to write your own licence?
(DIR) Post #ADUUOmQJd3666pSVd2 by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-15T22:13:28Z
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@TMakarios My own blogpost. I'm happy with GPL, I'm just not relying on it (or any license) to protect software freedom.
(DIR) Post #ADUUOmvVl43Dfa3QFk by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-17T00:18:33Z
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The Collective Code Construction Contract (C4)[0] and Towards A Cooperative Technology Movement[1] capture about all I have to say on what's missing in Free Software, and they say it better than I could.Free Software and the four freedoms is necessary and the bare minimum, but what matters is practical user freedom. The three angry blog posts linked from this thread point out some of that but the good points are overshadowed by their (valid) cry of disappointment with Free Software.[0] http://rfc.zeromq.org/spec:42[0] Annotated: https://hintjens.gitbooks.io/social-architecture/content/chapter4.html[1] https://cooperativetechnology.codeberg.page/[1] Audio and commentary (me): http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3317@alcinnz @TMakarios @strypey @deejoe
(DIR) Post #ADUUOnTthDYZOE8sqm by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-17T00:40:33Z
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@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios I've written paraphrasing above thread:"Once our projects start getting relied upon or grow beyond a couple of developers, we need to invest in solid governance structures (i.e. not BDFL) to give non-programmers greater say. Give them the control we promised them. And ideally help steer funding where it’s needed (even if I wish we didn’t live in a society where we need money to live)."
(DIR) Post #ADUUOo0Vjxe11NOvgW by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-17T00:45:31Z
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@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios And I'll add: In my vocabulary, I'm reserving the term "communal software" for when there are solid governance structures for a project.Hmmm, maybe I should incorporate some of these links into that page...https://adrian.geek.nz/fossbros
(DIR) Post #ADUUOoW3qesibEA7rU by humanetech@mastodon.social
2021-11-17T06:30:25Z
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@alcinnz There's https://communityrule.info/ a project of https://metagov.org where all kinds of #community #governance templates are collected.In the article you say "Hardly any free software projects have more than a couple active devs, they’re not benefitting from collaboration", but isn't the actual problem that they can't find the time to organize efficient collab, especially for all those skills adjacent to the pure technical work that needs done?@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADUUOp45o86UIm5IuG by humanetech@mastodon.social
2021-11-17T06:32:56Z
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@alcinnz You later say "Once our projects start getting relied upon or grow beyond a couple of developers, we need to invest in solid governance structures", but the first issue means they might never get there.I feel there should be an earlier stage where a helping, well-organized community 'umbrella' already exists, and facilitates easy-access to those other skillsets that are needed for a successful FOSS project.@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADUUOpbPoEl5y7fuqW by humanetech@mastodon.social
2021-11-17T06:36:51Z
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@alcinnzWe need to move away from the thinking of projects as individual specks in the software landscape, that have a single circle of community around them once they grow.Instead there are already countless communities that are ready to embrace that little speck and nurture it from the start.They can be very topical, like a "UX" community, or "Security", "Infra", or more broad like "FOSS advocacy & services".@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADUvI424STXNSR8mTA by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2021-11-17T16:43:21.579045Z
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@alcinnz I'm gonna be honest. If you think you can't exercies your freedoms if codebases are large, then what do we do with Linux and compilers?
(DIR) Post #ADUvXftLypjVDiVUH2 by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T01:15:50.569108Z
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@avalosYep. And others. '80s computers booted to a language. '90s computers booted to a carefully managed GUI, designed to conceal "complexities"...@alcinnz @lightweight
(DIR) Post #ADUvXgPc2tXMplbFYW by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T01:24:52.836528Z
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@avalos @alcinnz @lightweightIf Windows 95 had shipped with VB4 bundled in, it would have been a learning tool for millions! Hell, Microsoft would probably have made more money that way than they did by gatekeeping, but it wouldn't have been a short-term gain and it would've risked the existence of competition...
(DIR) Post #ADUvXgww30ByV7BrUm by mathew@mastodon.social
2021-11-16T01:40:28Z
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@DHeadshot @alcinnz @lightweight @avalos Steve Jobs killing Hypercard out of spite was a tragedy.
(DIR) Post #ADUvYM1dKRJNtYhh0i by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-16T01:42:46Z
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@mathew @DHeadshot @alcinnz @avalos it (and Silverlight) should serve as strong messages for *anyone* opting to build anything important on any technology that's proprietary to someone else. This sort of thing will inevitably happen, and you (the person building stuff on it) will lose. So don't. Build on #FOSS platforms. At least that way you always have a fighting chance!
(DIR) Post #ADUw3ly6vFxfKk2NyC by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-17T16:47:54Z
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@xerzAs for Linux: I think the environmental costs of throwing away perfectly good hardware is too high for me to want to do anything about it. Though certainly I'm open to explorations! Thankfully we rarely need to address gripes at that low of a level, probably would cause security vulnerabilities too...As for compilers, they tend to be on the high end of what I accept (if not beyond), but I'm happy to let them have more complexity to take it off programs in their language.
(DIR) Post #ADUw3mV4wgKgyzSiMC by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2021-11-17T16:51:57.958917Z
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@alcinnz Seems then that argument could be used in favor of proprietary operating systems (like Chrome OS!) and compilers (even V8!) then. Maybe it's not just about solely individual or short term usage of these freedoms?
(DIR) Post #ADW8LKnLjLQbAzgq2q by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-17T23:45:46Z
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Too Big to Fork
(DIR) Post #ADXrZxSNydbdhngmyO by DHeadshot@vernunftzentrum.de
2021-11-16T22:36:12.393208Z
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@dchIf it's web-focused, how about everyone who buys a computer gets webspace (or a NAT holepunch?) and the browser contains an easy website-building utility so everyone can contribute while they consume? I know early browsers intended something like that; it would be nice to try to fulfill that vision...@lightweight @alcinnz @mathew @avalos
(DIR) Post #ADXrZy2tmsoTX2lwsy by markusl@fosstodon.org
2021-11-16T22:53:08Z
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@DHeadshot @dch @alcinnz @lightweight @mathew @avalos Services such as Notion and Write.As already exist and have free tiers. That's not to criticise your idea, which I think is a good one, but rather to say that we need to let people know what's already available and encourage them to use it.(I'm not so keen on a NAT hole-punch: home computer security is bad enough already. I'd let the professionals do the Web-hosting. I don't open any of my network to the Internet.)
(DIR) Post #ADXrZyWK1ULh0IXRkO by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-16T22:56:48Z
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@markusl @DHeadshot @dch @lightweight @mathew @avalos Protip for anyone who wants to get into local education: Check which routers local ISPs provide, and those routers' featuresets. You might be pleasantly surprised!No promises though.
(DIR) Post #ADXrZz06EmAUUeTEA4 by markusl@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T18:29:17Z
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@alcinnz @DHeadshot @dch @lightweight @mathew @avalos And, if you don't fancy education, get into the security business:https://modemly.com/m1/pulseI daresay you could make a reasonable living by installing OpenWRT on old, vulnerable routers and configuring it better than the defaults.
(DIR) Post #ADXrZzYUAvfqDIYgl6 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-18T22:04:17Z
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@markusl @alcinnz @DHeadshot @dch @mathew @avalos yes, that should be a cottage industry... but sadly, most people don't realise their exposure/liability and as such would be loath to pay someone to fix a problem they don't accept they have... I wish it was otherwise.
(DIR) Post #ADXra06s75BBvwe9M8 by markusl@fosstodon.org
2021-11-19T00:48:02Z
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@lightweight @alcinnz @DHeadshot @dch @mathew @avalos There are reasons to do it other than security. We have a slow Internet connection that can't be upgraded. I set up a low-power Linux box between my Lan and my ADSL router and configured it to do traffic-shaping. Even though bandwidth hasn't improved, the difference in responsiveness and in the quality of video calls has been a revelation. I now suspect that people sometimes solve latency by throwing expensive bandwidth at the problem.
(DIR) Post #ADXra0hNvKO1lBjJGi by markusl@fosstodon.org
2021-11-19T00:58:56Z
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@lightweight @alcinnz @DHeadshot @dch @mathew @avalos If people who aren't coders want to help Linux, here's one way: write good documentation. Most of the docs on traffic-shaping were written in about 2004, and many are obsolete. It took me a solid week of ten-hour days to learn how to do it, and it's still trial and error. We need good, up-to-date docs, and we need the obsolete docs swept away. The Linux network stack is amazing, but "read the source" is not an adequate support policy.
(DIR) Post #ADXra1EhvR2dQXJvCy by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-19T02:45:34Z
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@markusl @alcinnz @DHeadshot @dch @mathew @avalos I think 'read the source' is always the last ditch measure, but it's entirely better than "sorry, you're not allowed to see it". or , even worse, "here, you can the code, but you can't actually fix anything."
(DIR) Post #ADcd7QBaHE8K12hXWK by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-17T06:36:46Z
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@humanetech Yeah, I probably could write another article describing my recommendations on where to take FOSS... That wasn't the focus here so I kept it brief to highlight the important points...@clacke @strypey @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADcd7Ql29QUPmzHqm8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-21T09:57:12Z
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@alcinnz I think blog posts proposing new directions for our social movement would be far more useful and inspiring to read. TBH I felt a bit depressed after reading the relentless negatively in all those blogs you linked to 🙁@humanetech @clacke @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADcdcxlJUVL97zSB8K by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2021-11-21T10:02:55Z
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@humanetech> a helping, well-organized community 'umbrella' already exists, and facilitates...True but hardly a new concept. Some of the orgs set up for this: * FSF/ GNU Project * Software in the Public Interest * Linux Foundation * GNOME Foundation * Mozilla Foundation * Apache Foundation * Software Freedom Conservancy @alcinnz @clacke @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADcfKVC9AFXZDxKUr2 by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-21T10:21:48Z
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@strypey All of these offer fiscal sponsorship and other legal or technical assistance of varying degrees, but I don't know how much they offer governance mentoring and community facilitation. I'd add the Software Freedom Law Center and their Free Software Support Network to the list.Also I'd avoid half of them for being corporate vehicles and the FSF side of GNU for not being up to date on their own governance.@alcinnz @deejoe @TMakarios @humanetech
(DIR) Post #ADdHW2L04ptBSTOjIW by Azure@tailswish.industries
2021-11-21T17:30:05.458627Z
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@alcinnz There seems to be a contradiction between:> They feel entitled to dictate the direction of project (GNOME?) that doesn't want to serve themand> "just fork it"If it's legitimate for a software project to simply not be interested in serving certain people/doing certain things, that's pretty much an implicit endorsement of telling people who don't like what the project is doing to fork it.Personally, I am unhappy with GNOME for hiding options, but only because I have a severe visual disability and the 'large text' checkbox simply isn't large enough and I think it is a pretty rotten experience to have to download, install, and use a tweak tool before you can even see what you're doing well.That and what's in the core matters. I'm fortunate enough to understand how the system works, other people with disabilities aren't. Further, if the option to change the font size is in the core, people with disabilities can use a locked down system, where this isn't available if you need to use a tweak tool or similar.
(DIR) Post #ADdIkuLUAq9Qy8HPk0 by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-21T17:42:09Z
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@Azure Yes, there is a conflict. Which may be worth exploring.Put simply, I think my issue with the attitude is the "just", forking is no simple matter. It takes serious skills & time commitment, especially when the project being forked is larger & more complex!
(DIR) Post #ADdKGfLpYfPTgY9GpE by alcinnz@floss.social
2021-11-21T18:00:31Z
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@strypey Maybe I should write another... I felt that negativity needed addressing, but I do have a more positive take! Don't have a good framing though.@humanetech @clacke @deejoe @TMakarios
(DIR) Post #ADdLNOIdSBfKmYQNv6 by xarvos@nixnet.social
2021-11-15T23:14:18.345456Z
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@alcinnz>They feel entitled to dictate the direction of project (GNOME?) that doesn’t want to serve them there is an an open letter asking Eugen to step down
(DIR) Post #ADdMcZdfg0eiFS4FX6 by lxo@gnusocial.net
2021-11-17T02:42:09Z
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smartphones *are* computers, but in disguise so as to better serve their true masters. we have to take them back. even laypeople would benefit from learning how to automate their boring mechanical tasks, but these devices have turned into attention sinks that turn people into event-processing systems. which may have got beyond rushkoff's notion of program or be programmed. people are being programmed to serve the smartphone's masters