Post ABykoIXiM14dqlH4YC by cygnusx11@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AByhjWNTBot9RnVsRc by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T05:48:23Z
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Day 33 of the #100DaysToOffload 2021 Series:Microsoft is now embedding ads into Windows itself (has been for a while now). These ads can literally crash their shiny new OS. Yet another reason to just stick with Linux. https://mikestone.me/microsoft-inventing-new-reasons-to-use-linux/
(DIR) Post #AByi1tCB5ld7QbzRTc by efftoyz@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T05:51:44Z
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@mike wait a minute.. so you have to buy OS, and then, for your paid money they have audacity to show you ads? wow. I would some what understand free OS with ads, but buying?!
(DIR) Post #ABykoIXiM14dqlH4YC by cygnusx11@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T06:22:52Z
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@mike I fear there will be a lot more issues similar to this for Windows 11. I have already loaded it up on a non-qualifying system to see what the hype was all about. It is basically just a locked down version of its predecessor. Less control, more bloat. Tbf, I am not surprised by any of it.
(DIR) Post #AByl5uqxAdJJaefr96 by piggo@piggo.space
2021-10-03T06:26:14.980439Z
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@cygnusx11 @mike are parts of the OS still directly taken from XP and looking like a total mess? like eg the IP address dialog or advanced printer settings
(DIR) Post #AByrW5xx4iUZJIoWy8 by Wivik@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T07:37:59Z
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@mike Looks like the "sponsored apps" and other self installed crapwares on Windows 10 was just a start.I'm glad that the only case I need it is for gaming.
(DIR) Post #AByvvaeQWdQVXD5sG0 by jrballesteros05@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T08:26:58Z
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@mike In my days a software with embedded ads has a name, it was called "adware".In my days when a software spy the activity of your computer had a name, it was called "spyware". This "evolution" is our fault as society because we allowed it in the first place and the worst, we normalised it.That's why I don't trust when companies want to put their dirty hands on free/libre software and people allow them because they invest to make software faster and "better".
(DIR) Post #AByzj0o0N7mAhfpccS by fedops@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T09:09:58Z
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@mike speaks to the quality of their system that displaying a graphic or running a script can crash the OS. ActiveX running with system privs all over again?No matter what they say, the only way to fix their problem child is a clean start designed properly from the ground up.
(DIR) Post #ABz6mjyJbIXfKeNZ1k by edgren@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T10:29:04Z
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@mike First trackers in Windows XP Service Pack 2 or 3. Then keyloggers that monitors every keystroke you do within the operating system in Windows 7 or 8. After that, forcing you to login to your Outlook account if you want to use Windows 10 Home. And now, in Windows 11, ads.I do not dare to think what they do next 🤢
(DIR) Post #ABzm69PXL5enqvUBtY by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T18:12:03Z
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@mike Seriously, this is what's going to happen. When all of these companies start struggling (some already have) to meet sustained, ridiculous, growth goals, they will start putting ads on even paid versions, then you can pay EVEN MORE if you want to remove the ads yet again. smh
(DIR) Post #AC09FAa6ee7h2DhQ8m by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T22:31:20Z
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@pyre35 I hope that there's a tipping point here where customers will become SO dissatisfied that they start looking towards alternatives, which in turn will force OEMs to adopt a different OS or put pressure on Microsoft to knock it the hell off. The larger OEMs may need pressure from up and coming smaller OEMs succeeding with non-Microsoft platforms, which is something I'm more than happy to help them do. So long as customers don't just trade one devil for another and switch to Apple.
(DIR) Post #AC09GW32KNa7tysCG0 by besserwisser@shitposter.club
2021-10-03T09:14:24.557065Z
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@efftoyz @mike You can pay extra for the Pro Edition without ads. Because of course.
(DIR) Post #AC09GWrjHu8CRCagGu by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T22:31:39Z
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@besserwisser @efftoyz Yay?
(DIR) Post #AC1LjOdUMF6Vv5Q9yq by tychosoft@fosstodon.org
2021-10-03T23:43:24Z
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@bob @mike @pyre35 given that they are already working on dream placement, i suspect this don't even begin to cover how invasive it will become.
(DIR) Post #AC1LjP9kQIuNX8VvGK by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-10-04T12:26:08Z
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@tychosoft @bob @mike this is a mess to be sure. I remember taking a course in marketing where the professor showed how much more return you could get using ML for targeted ads. I raised my hand and essentially said, "Or, we could be OK with just a 20-30% return?" And they said, "Why would I do that when I could get 60-70%, if not more?". My response will always be, because the trade-offs are simply not worth it. It's really that simple. Trying to work on this concept with family right now.
(DIR) Post #AC1LqsNw9KMgDDiI9w by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-10-04T12:27:30Z
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@tychosoft @bob @mike this does boil down to some level of cost-benefit analysis, something we seem to be increasingly terrible at conducting, both for ourselves and as a society as a whole.
(DIR) Post #AC1QkjLVLNDuD8SrNQ by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-10-04T13:22:25Z
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@bob @tychosoft @mike ah, I knew there was a word! Thanks for refreshing what I should have remembered from just a few months ago lol
(DIR) Post #AC2gV4EXi0dAmgimKe by pmorris@fosstodon.org
2021-10-05T03:53:04Z
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@mike @pyre35 I’ve been frustrated with Windows for a long time. I’ve looked into alternatives and tried different Linux distros over the years (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc) but eventually switched to Apple. My MacBook Pro purchased 5 years ago is still going strong. I would love to get back into Linux, but I’m not sure if there are any hardware/software combos with Linux that are as reliable. Are there any Linux versions/laptops that wouldn’t require a ton of maintenance?
(DIR) Post #AC3r9VYejK2NoR0lGq by basilisk@shitposter.club
2021-10-05T04:21:25.140832Z
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@pmorris @mike @pyre35 linux mint requires some learning curve at first but then is just as easy as windowsnot much maintenance
(DIR) Post #AC3r9W111sirEOHPTU by pmorris@fosstodon.org
2021-10-05T12:31:25Z
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@basilisk @mike @pyre35 thanks for the advice. For hardware, it looks like either the Dell XPS 13 or Lenovo Thinkpad are the best bet. Have you used either of those? Any other options that you think would provide good long term reliability?
(DIR) Post #AC3r9WWv7GF8pLCtCi by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-10-05T17:27:31Z
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@pmorris My X1 Carbon has been bulletproof for Linux. I've been a huge fan. It's a Gen 1 too, which means it's almost due it's 10th birthday here soon, and it's still running like a champ.@basilisk @pyre35
(DIR) Post #AC3sCdkep4wk2zgMam by pmorris@fosstodon.org
2021-10-05T17:39:13Z
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@mike @basilisk @pyre35 I’m at a point where I don’t really need anything fancy. I just want it to work most of the time when I need it. Appreciate the rec
(DIR) Post #AC41UpRN0A5t6FPOGO by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-10-05T19:23:34Z
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@pmorris @mike I've used linux for about 8 months now, but only as a daily driver for a few weeks. But, I also don't use my laptop for much "work", be it professional or personal. Regardless, linux mint seems to be pretty easy and reliable.