Post ABwDSRnXIfht1rrFb6 by 0x1C3B00DA@edolas.world
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(DIR) Post #ABtq9RmuQXk0EYcEyG by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:09:56.283Z
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TFW reacting with ❤️ but you know they're a Mastodon user so they'll only see ⭐😔
(DIR) Post #ABtq9SISXEyhoPNR9E by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-09-30T21:13:58Z
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@alexandra you're phrasing this like :mastodon: is an inferior platform, but the reality is that you sent a like activity, and various AP impls may display it differently
(DIR) Post #ABtq9SkSr7NbDGTnnc by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:15:14.436Z
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@bugaevc@mastodon.technology no but I can react with👍❤️🤔😮🎉😥😇😕:blobcatgooglyshrug:💯😟:meowsurprised::blobcatnervous::meowevil::ameowree::blobcatheart::blobcatfearful::ablobcatheadbangfasthyper::ablobcatbongo::blobcatfacepalm:😠🤭:blobcatgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands::blobcatwhat::blobcatthinksmart:😔and others and Misskey users see them but Mastodon users just see ⭐
(DIR) Post #ABtq9TC7CJUub1Pstk by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-09-30T21:29:20.694575Z
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@alexandra @bugaevc imo misskey handles reacts better than pleroma does; when you use an emoji reaction with pleroma it doesnt show up on mastodon at all (at least thats how it was last time I checked)
(DIR) Post #ABtqBuXcUfQ9zRdgsi by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-09-30T21:20:50Z
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@alexandra but that's the thing; like is a core AP concept, emoji reactions are not. IMO a server should not offer you to emoji-react unless it knows that the server on the other end also supports the emoji reactions extension.
(DIR) Post #ABtqBuzynE6dPOuL5M by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:28:46.413Z
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@bugaevc@mastodon.technology To back up slightly:I'm not saying Misskey is better than Mastodon because of thisI'm saying it's occasionally disappointing to have lower fidelity nonverbal communication with Mastodon users. It's partially Misskey's fault for creating that expectation.I disagree with saying servers should check for extension compatibility; sending a Like is a perfectly serviceable transparent fallback, and there really isn't a good way to check in advance if another server will be able to interpret a given activity or object correctly.AP is a bit of a mess isn't it.
(DIR) Post #ABtqcNJW8mC4kuf6EC by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:34:13.923Z
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@abloo@fedi.absturztau.be @bugaevc@mastodon.technology Yeah but Pleroma also gives you a distinct Send Like Activity button, whereas on Misskey it just assumes all reacts are equivalent to a Like if it can't get the react across.
(DIR) Post #ABtrEAXi4UiS9QK18i by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-09-30T21:34:11Z
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@alexandra it's always the responsibility of whoever decides to extend a format/protocol to still play nice with others / fall back to the core protocol properly. "I've extended the protocol, so now you're bad for not implementing my extension" is never a valid approach.Like is a good way to represent a ❤️ reaction; perhaps. But not a 😕 or a 🤮 reaction. That'd be better delivered as a note; or by just disabling reactions and letting the user type a note explicitly.
(DIR) Post #ABtrEB1UHmXFdmFnYO by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:36:25.399Z
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@bugaevc@mastodon.technology Which is why I like Pleroma's handling better. I think you should have, separately, a "send Like" button and the ability to react, if only to show other users of compatible software how you feel. Reacts aren't directed only at the author of the original Note, they also communicate your feelings to e.g. the people you Announce it to.
(DIR) Post #ABtrEBR0ksx4uwCBKy by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-09-30T21:38:57Z
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@alexandra that actually reminds me of how this works on IndieWeb. You post your reactions on *your* site, because they're your reactions, even if you're reacting to content hosted elsewhere. You're marking it up so that others can understand it, and you're probably even notifying the author of the linked content about it, but it's still your reaction, it belongs to you.
(DIR) Post #ABtrEBpTHwWA8ndiSm by alexandra@mk.nixnet.social
2021-09-30T21:40:21.545Z
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@bugaevc@mastodon.technology I like the IndieWeb significantly better than ActivityPub... Maybe I should look into making more accessible IndieWeb software...
(DIR) Post #ABvTyEnSZu3M582jIW by meeper@outerheaven.club
2021-10-01T16:30:14.713569Z
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@bugaevc @alexandra I suppose I'm being a little hard but mastodon kinda is if you compare it to other fedi implementations, It lags behind in a lot of features form other implementations (alright if I'm fair this is not exactly a flaw) and it also copies dumb twitter restrictions (like the 500 character limit, apparently it's pretty hard to remove) and also it seems to encourage the 'mastodon network' instead of the whole fediverse (nitpicky here but most others don't associate with the brand like that)Also all mastodon instances seem to be cut from the same crop and the direction seems to go more towards discouraging instance uniqueness discouraging the spirit of the fediverse (I may need to be more thorough here)mastodon.social and online :\this last one is more speculative, so take it with a grain of salt but it also seems to encourage wide scale blocking much more (also excissive blocking on fedi is associated with mastodon, I don't mean bad instances but like ones based on far and wild accusations)I mean overall mastodon is nice in that It introduced a lot of people to fedi the fediverse
(DIR) Post #ABwDSQFT3qrSDuuWrA by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-10-01T16:36:17Z
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@meeper @alexandra there's no denying mastodon has its downsides :)But I do like the length restriction, and to think of it, I do like having just a single way of faving better than full emoji reactions. We're microblogging after all; there other services that are better suited for full-length blogging (and thanks to AP you don't have to chose just one!).
(DIR) Post #ABwDSQmn3xW3tGV8nQ by 0x1C3B00DA@edolas.world
2021-10-01T17:38:01.679146Z
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@bugaevc @meeper @alexandra We’re microblogging after all;That’s only because you’re using mastodon. The fediverse is more than microblogging and you shouldn’t need to switch services to participate in multiple styles of interaction
(DIR) Post #ABwDSRILAeklT7GKyO by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-10-01T17:53:07Z
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@0x1C3B00DA @alexandra @meeper Mastodon is limiting toot (Note) lengths because we're microblogging. On Mastodon, yes. That's exactly what I meant.As for shouldn't need to switch services: kind of, yeah, but one could also argue the inverse: that specialized services are good, and as long as they're all interoperable — which they are — everything is great.
(DIR) Post #ABwDSRLsxTaZe6vAUy by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-10-01T16:37:51Z
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@meeper @alexandra that is, IMO, if your post is long, it should not be a Note, it should be a Post
(DIR) Post #ABwDSRnXIfht1rrFb6 by 0x1C3B00DA@edolas.world
2021-10-01T18:09:21.923313Z
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@bugaevc @alexandra @meeper but I mean you’re microblogging because mastodon doesn’t let you do anything else. There’s no reason you couldn’t also post full blog posts
(DIR) Post #ABwDSSFBdrpCPcnKhE by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-10-01T19:24:12Z
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@0x1C3B00DA @alexandra @meeper I'm microblogging because I want to microblog. I signed up on a Mastodon instance specifically because I wanted to microblog (and didn't want to use Twitter).When I want to post photos, I go to Pixelfed. When I want to blog, I go to... well, Plume, or to work on that unfinished project of mine.
(DIR) Post #ABwDSSfm315lk5EZ8a by bugaevc@mastodon.technology
2021-10-01T16:39:48Z
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@meeper @alexandra also: I can't help but notice how this whole Twitter vs Mastodon vs less popular but perhaps better by some criteria services situation reminds me of Windows vs Linux vs BSD.
(DIR) Post #ABwDpSMFNumDQT46gC by meeper@outerheaven.club
2021-10-02T01:04:05.291724Z
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@bugaevc @0x1C3B00DA @alexandra for microblogging and microblogging in particular (despite being utter minimalism) honk is much better, It has most features like follows and replies but is very distraction free and clear.I really feel that the odd twitter-alike fusion makes for a very bad social platform and I find it being rather unhealthy (I probably need to elaborate on this)Anyway the character length thing is definitely a dumb and foolish restriction even for microblogging for too many people it's very limiting