Post AB2adZkBy2da1knuE4 by NicolasConstant@social.nicolas-constant.com
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 (DIR) Post #AAvXD2McrvkEwcrM6y by JordiGH@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-09-01T18:44:58Z
       
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       Dangnabit, tried speaking #French on the phone  with a Hispanophone, they immediately heard my Spanish accent, so asked me to speak Spanish.I mean, fine, okay, but what am I doing wrong?I theoretically have enough #phonetic knowledge to know how to get rid of my accent. It's just difficult to spontaneously produce the necessary speech.I wish for more formal training with someone who can recognise my speech patterns. I know it's almost "impossible" to get rid of an accent, but I wanna try!
       
 (DIR) Post #AAvXD2yuZaMyrMlvmq by JordiGH@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-09-01T18:45:47Z
       
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       I just feel particularly called out that another bilingual Hispanophone could tell right away what my accent was.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAvXD3aUJsQYjuLwMC by emacsen@emacsen.net
       2021-09-01T18:47:55Z
       
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       @JordiGH Now I'm curious. Would you be open to share where you're from/your accent is from?
       
 (DIR) Post #AAvXD49EEiDUTebgVU by JordiGH@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-09-01T18:50:03Z
       
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       @emacsen I'm a Mexican in Montreal. My English is native, so no Spanish there, but my Spanish keeps getting into my French.For some reason, my English doesn't get into my French, at least, not phonetically. I do have occasional syntactic interference from English in French.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAvXD4eQMjAc2PCb8C by emacsen@emacsen.net
       2021-09-01T18:56:23Z
       
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       @JordiGH BTW, this is not to imply my wife is fluent in all of those languages. Unlike her mother who speaks 3-4 languages fluently, then another two or three semi-fluently.I go to their home and feel like an idiot :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AAvXDHaIHOag9MMyzw by JordiGH@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-09-01T18:46:19Z
       
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       That's, like, a low blow, dude. No fair, using our own native language against me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AB2adZ7CJ1Rg4oYlRg by emacsen@emacsen.net
       2021-09-01T18:53:08Z
       
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       @JordiGH Very cool. :)Also French and Spanish are forgivably similar in terms of words. My wife sometimes confuses Romanian, French, Spanish and Esperanto because there's this huge overlap of words.Plus with Spanish as your first language, you have the part of your brain that stores the word genders.As I understand it, Spanish's gender rules are slightly more logical than French's.
       
 (DIR) Post #AB2adZkBy2da1knuE4 by NicolasConstant@social.nicolas-constant.com
       2021-09-05T04:38:52.101523Z
       
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       @emacsen The weirdest thing about genders in French is.. they can be very different between countries (a "job" is female in Canada, but is male in France) and even in the same country (there is debate in France on the "gameboy" gender, even if there is literally "boy" in the name).@JordiGH
       
 (DIR) Post #AB2adaCuFHbdSoEpyy by emacsen@emacsen.net
       2021-09-05T04:55:13Z
       
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       @NicolasConstant @JordiGH > there is debate in France on the "gameboy" gender, even if there is literally "boy" in the nameHeck, a penis is feminine, so why not a Game Boy?
       
 (DIR) Post #AB2akqz0GvSfWICbQW by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2021-09-05T04:57:04.949677Z
       
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       @emacsen @NicolasConstant @JordiGH «penis» is masculine but «bite» (~dick) is feminine.I think the actual logic is just aesthetics, like which variant sounds the best.