Post AAmesnlaFM2ore5tnE by pyre35@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AAlqjkpYnV0pRcRkYa by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:05:57Z
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Um, wow. This here is exactly why burnout is increasing across the spectrum. https://fortune.com/2021/08/17/work-life-balance-9-to-5-jobs-career-building/
(DIR) Post #AAlsVbT30oyuG9IRZQ by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:25:50Z
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@mike I'm so confused by this article. I have not seen the pendulum swing the other way and I don't know where the author is getting that from? Maybe in some industries people are clocking out strictly at 5 pm, but the industries I know are still expecting work whenever the hell they want, hours be damned.
(DIR) Post #AAludsKQPJyUmHKrDM by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:49:50Z
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@pyre35 @mike I don't know how things work in other countries, but here in Sweden, these 'career people' are a minority. Most people don't care about what they work with and they only do what they have to. While a lot of us do occasionally work overtime from time to time, it's not something that's required or can be expected of us. Å
(DIR) Post #AAluqBJldBoH9BtbcW by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:52:04Z
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@pyre35 @mike Industries that doesn't clock out strictly at the end of the workday is a minority.
(DIR) Post #AAlvFVOg78bYf4GhFI by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:56:39Z
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@hund @mike I should have clarified: industries that have traditionally clocked out, nothing has probably changed. But the author is suggesting that all of the sudden salaried people are demanding to "punch out" at 5 pm. in the general business world, especially in the US, this is simply not the case.
(DIR) Post #AAlvSFCFes4KBIWvYW by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T03:58:49Z
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@mike People are trapped in a bubble where they feel the need to spend a lot of money on crap they really don't need, something that they're unfortunately not aware of themselves.They're unhappy and depressed, and they believe that more things will make them happy, but to afford it, they have to work more..While in reality, they're unhappy and depressed because they work too much. If they worked less (or not at all), they would be a lot more happy.Once again, less is more.
(DIR) Post #AAlwyLhV6zWfZe1GE4 by MrDers@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T04:15:59Z
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@pyre35 @mike My experience is that the "older generation" (think 60yrs plus today) would put in tremendous time at the office but would spend most of it chatting. The younger generation worked only their 40 hours, regardless of the amount of time they wasted chatting during the day. I've tried to mentor the younger ones and talk about the importance of output and not running out the clock. Seems to have landed well on many and those have move up through the organization in good time.
(DIR) Post #AAm1Qh8rO2XVzvaX1k by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T05:05:47Z
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@mike HAH! Screw this article.I don’t want a career. My legacy is my children and my family and my own personal endeavors. I want to be paid to do my thing and leave. I don’t need or want a career.This lady seems really lonely. Or at least focused on work way too much to realize boundaries are okay. 😂😂
(DIR) Post #AAm1WdtiMUg5foL99M by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T05:06:50Z
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@mike HAH! Screw this article.I don’t want a career. My legacy is my children and my family and my own personal endeavors. I want to be paid to do my thing and leave. I don’t need or want a career.This lady seems really lonely. Or at least focused on work way too much to realize boundaries are okay. 😂😂
(DIR) Post #AAm7ihlYP8p8s3erMe by simon@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T06:16:17Z
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@mike wow, the author of that piece is an idiot. I thought the first couple of paragraphs were a joke, but clearly not. Such an awful piece in so many ways.
(DIR) Post #AAmCNydsxmLwtx0Tui by danielfgom@mastodon.social
2021-08-28T07:08:34Z
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@mike Money is the root problem here. Man was not created to work so much nor to require money. It's only after Adam and Eve sinned that this evil system began. Now evil men take advantage of their positions to shape society in such a way so that both parents need to work long hours or 2 jobs just to make enough money to feed their family. Whereas government should have been protecting the family and making sure every man earned a proper wage to care for his family.
(DIR) Post #AAmJ89aTCZzTtNoLey by fedops@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T08:24:06Z
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@mike am I glad we have a legal work hours limit. If I punch over 10 hours my boss has to file a formal explanation (and I get a kick in the balls the next day).Routinely working 14, 16 hours just means you're delivering substandard work and ruining yourself at the same time. Good money for good work, go home after 9 hours, and decompress.
(DIR) Post #AAmesnlaFM2ore5tnE by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T12:27:59Z
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@MrDers @mike definitely some generational differences
(DIR) Post #AAmxqsss9AsdHnIp4S by MrDers@fosstodon.org
2021-08-28T16:00:30Z
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@pyre35 @mike The 90s weren't kind to these people are there was always a fear of not putting up a facade of being overworked or you would get let go. The younger generation has the attitude that the company should be grateful for them being there. In this market, the company should be.
(DIR) Post #AAniQSDZMeKotmsmHo by richards@fosstodon.org
2021-08-29T00:42:11Z
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@mike I put in my 40 hours and honestly feel like that’s still too much of my time spent away from the people I love and the things that bring me joy. I can’t imagine living with the mentality that I need to give even more of my life to any job.