Post A9sFVM1cbryU6YTiUK by le_ArthurDent@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #A9rn8wFYxmA54qWRAe by dansup@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T01:49:35Z
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My boyfriend was using Pixelfed for months before he found out about the local/network timelines.He doesn't understand the point, and told me I should make it easier to discover accounts and content. Not everyone uses these platforms the same, and I wouldn't be surprised if most people never check local or network timelines.
(DIR) Post #A9rn8xoL9xZfuznj16 by dansup@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T01:54:44Z
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Anyways, its not really fair to compare Mastodon and Pixelfed since they are very different.Wish all the best for the new app and the existing vibrant ecosystem of 3rd party apps!
(DIR) Post #A9rnRhcTaCWZChBeqm by msh@coales.co
2021-08-01T02:05:22Z
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@dansup it would be nice if the other timelines were kept even if they were tucked away in an "advanced" section of a hamburger menu to keep the UI simpler but still accessible.My instance is very small so my local timeline is obviously very boring but I check it daily because I'd miss what my locals are saying among all the stuff on home from all my follows. Conversely I check my federated timeline to see what interesting stuff my locals are following. The vibe here is very different!
(DIR) Post #A9roCydY89vpanEOwq by msh@coales.co
2021-08-01T02:13:56Z
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@dansup I think Eugen's perspective is strongly influenced by how very large microblogging sites work. His instance is so huge and has no target audience so local and federated look like a firehose of spam but for smaller and/or specialised instances they are actually still the best way to find cool new stuff!
(DIR) Post #A9roNaETCqqJ5YYfD6 by dansup@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:15:51Z
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@msh Yeah I get that, I use the local timeline a lot on my instance for moderation purposes.Hiding the advanced stuff like that is a brilliant idea!
(DIR) Post #A9rqQhrdUJvLXEUium by msh@coales.co
2021-08-01T02:38:47Z
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@dansup the usage pattern for masto is very impulsive by nature compared to pixelfed, both in creating and viewing posts...more thought is put into the pictures shared and followers linger a bit longer to admire the pictures they are interested in.But Pixelfed and Mastodon were also developed from opposite directions. You put tons of thoughtful effort into making a great picture sharing platform then added federation. Eugen started with federation and built up the platform from there
(DIR) Post #A9rqrZrZLNmKXTHC6q by trwnh@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:00:23Z
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@dansup hiding public timelines makes sense for pixelfed but not for mastodon imo. mastodon sites have more of a community niche because of being primarily text posts, whereas pixelfed is generalistic due to being more oriented to media sharing
(DIR) Post #A9rqraOtLUQwCoro36 by dansup@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:07:04Z
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@trwnh One could argue that it would be more important to focus on discovery and relevancy than a firehose of randomness that may overwhelm people. The medium is irrelevant.
(DIR) Post #A9rqraqXggYFaZnt9E by trwnh@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:12:08Z
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@dansup It's not a firehose on most Mastodon sites, is the point. We're on one of the few sites that is an exception to that ;)
(DIR) Post #A9rqrbF0Dk7KoRFQH2 by Gargron@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:24:17Z
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@trwnh @dansup That’s not even true. There are plenty of large servers around. And the federated feed is garbage even on small ones. People don’t seem to understand it’s not even “bad moderation” problem sometimes but a middle aged person coming across a perfectly allowed hypersexual shitpost, or a perfectly allowed, CW’d nude.
(DIR) Post #A9rqrbPHbWLBKK3dIW by trwnh@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T02:01:14Z
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@dansup also "hiding" it in pf would basically be just stripping out incomplete code at this point wouldnt it
(DIR) Post #A9rqrgx8z3OgWmwFGq by PeterCxy@sn.angry.im
2021-08-01T02:43:34Z
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@Gargron @trwnh @dansup As the admin of an instance with about 10 active users I can confirm that the federated timeline is more than 50% garbage even on our very small instance. But again, I do use the federated timeline sometimes as a means of discovery, although it's not really very effective unless I'm getting lucky.
(DIR) Post #A9rvXSUzVtxbg7wRhA by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-08-01T03:35:59Z
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@Gargron I would agree that the federate timeline is not great. I rarely look at it, and when I do it's by accident. I love my local timeline though, and I've been told many times that the local feed is one of the best things about the instance. I agree. We work really hard to keep our local timeline relevant and accessible.@trwnh @dansup
(DIR) Post #A9sCzw4GruYEiLblo0 by AaronTheIssueGuy@fosstodon.org
2021-08-01T06:51:36Z
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@mike @Gargron @trwnh @dansup Agreed! I know for a fact that many Fosstodon users love their local timelines. Ive also been part of several other smaller or regional servers that take food care of their local timeline as it plays an important role for the development of the community. @telroy @huy_ngo
(DIR) Post #A9sFVM1cbryU6YTiUK by le_ArthurDent@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T07:19:26Z
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@msh @dansup I don't think Eugen's intention was to provide a universal mastodon app, but one that is explicitly targeted for non-techies and beginners that first look for "Mastodon" in their stores. And by the way the app appears to be designed it feels to me that it is thought as a starting point to discover the fediverse. And since people only know big social networks, with simple concepts it is a sensible decision to fetch em with that experience, have em settle and then go deeper.
(DIR) Post #A9sFkJ2jykg1CT8CQq by le_ArthurDent@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T07:22:29Z
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@msh @dansup Just remember his many people are unable to tell the difference between an app and the service behind it. People are really simple minded concerning technology and if the app is not intuitive and easy to use, they will condemn the whole thing.
(DIR) Post #A9sFm1HcyrZIhKuaLw by le_ArthurDent@mastodon.social
2021-08-01T07:22:44Z
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@msh @dansup Just remember how many people are unable to tell the difference between an app and the service behind it. People are really simple minded concerning technology and if the app is not intuitive and easy to use, they will condemn the whole thing.
(DIR) Post #A9vfTUgOF3C4TpKncO by ilyess@mastodon.online
2021-08-02T22:54:54Z
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@msh @dansup came here to say this. Local and network timelines could be disabled by defaut with the option to turn them on in the settings. We should empower users by giving them the choice, not make decisions and hope they work for everyone.