Post A8week5tgL3InAptY0 by miklo@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #A8wY9ZRubssl4jt0uO by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-04T04:53:21Z
       
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       Audacity now collects user data:  https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/I need a new audio editing program.  Any recommendations?
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wYhJrn3Ic0ao5Dge by bunni@raru.re
       2021-07-04T11:21:35Z
       
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       @khm audacity is free/libre, so you can edit itapparently people already did versions without telemetryhttps://github.com/cookiengineer/audacity(found it with a "audacity fork" qwant search)
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wYyGfkBKShbnWwKG by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
       2021-07-04T11:24:41.411463Z
       
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       @bunni @khm forking seems to be the only way to go tbh. i doubt the devs will revert those changes back. the bad thing is tho that outside of those forks, there is not really a good replacement for audacity that is free/libre (at least that i know of)
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wZ5K5Nt9d6Drt5Si by bunni@raru.re
       2021-07-04T11:25:55Z
       
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       @absturztaube @khm I think the best option would be to have a group of devs take back audacity from a forksomething like GNU audacitybut idk if anyone would want to do that uwu
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wZSJXK65gjBAv1Lk by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
       2021-07-04T11:30:07.137689Z
       
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       @bunni @khm we have to wait and see, sadly :blobcatsad:
       
 (DIR) Post #A8we3qrHZNSz3ZPQki by amy@h.spacecowboy.cc
       2021-07-04T12:21:43Z
       
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       @khm Audacity's telemetry is a compile time flag that's disabled by default, you could just compile it yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8week5tgL3InAptY0 by miklo@fosstodon.org
       2021-07-04T12:15:37Z
       
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       @khm You don't need a new audio editing program but just #audacity fork without spying features.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8weekYFytjmD86Xke by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
       2021-07-04T12:28:19Z
       
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       @miklo whoa, there's a fork like that already? Where / has it made its way to the AUR?@khm
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wfPpoUEg8e8l9Do8 by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-04T12:36:49Z
       
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       @khm Ardour
       
 (DIR) Post #A8wistIGftCDC8cloO by miklo@soc.citizen4.eu
       2021-07-04T13:15:37Z
       
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       @kzimmermann @khm @miklo https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1213#issuecomment-873547330
       
 (DIR) Post #A8x4cVEGZn8CuzLLV2 by clacke@libranet.de
       2021-07-04T09:15:29Z
       
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       Audio editing "is not intended for individuals below the age of 13". This is what happens when software starts doing things other than what the users need it to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8x8L01ziRmF3MVpxY by jr@social.anoxinon.de
       2021-07-04T18:00:55Z
       
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       @ParadeGrotesque @khm that's far far more complicated than Audacity
       
 (DIR) Post #A8xDkY0v0QHzSW0jbM by M@nerdculture.de
       2021-07-04T19:01:31Z
       
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       @bunniAh. Thanks!I just found the deleted https://github.com/yonderbread/foss_audacity ..cc @kubikpixel @khm
       
 (DIR) Post #A8xP7QpIzdYdK9h3Uu by paul@post.lurk.org
       2021-07-04T17:01:17Z
       
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       @khm not necessarily a recommendation, but snd has always been a fascinating niche audio editor: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/
       
 (DIR) Post #A8xP7RDlWh7iY18aci by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-04T21:00:52Z
       
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       @paul this is some legit alternate universe software that will at the very least be fun to explore,  thanks for the recommendation!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8xP7RYgGvqzasvIDw by Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net
       2021-07-04T21:08:58.801287Z
       
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       @khm @paul For quick split/merge/filter/mux tasks, raw ffmpeg works well. For more detailed work, distro packages of Audacity that don't have telemetry enabled should still be fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8xPhgq4w7tlPXLPns by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-04T21:13:56Z
       
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       @Seirdy @paul This is likely the case, but it's exhausting having to maintain a list of software inimical to its own users, and having to monitor changelogs/buildlogs/etc in case someone drops the ball.  Much simpler just to write off the project entirely and move on.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8yXdRBICgdATwi5su by souldessin@twit.social
       2021-07-04T22:33:09Z
       
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       @khm Ardour. On Linux, you can just install from repo. Windows and Mac, the creators ask for a donation of at least $1 for the install binary.Very very useful and powerful.Also! Search Unfa for some GREAT tutorials. His name is Unfa and he only uses FOSS for audio.
       
 (DIR) Post #A90uvhjg4yGeIdOPk8 by Horizon_Innovations@linuxrocks.online
       2021-07-04T09:56:17Z
       
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       @khm Depending on the complexity of your work, going from simple to studio:EKO - simple sound editorKWave - easy to use sound editor (very similar to Audacity)Frinike, LMMS - both more featuresArdour - full studio class workstation.I've used EKO, KWave and Ardour, so can recommend all 3!There are others of course. Happy hunting.I'll be going with KWave for the time being.
       
 (DIR) Post #A90v7T6EK2SyNgYDbc by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-07-06T13:51:42.570257Z
       
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       @Horizon_Innovations @khm i don't get any search results for Frinike :blobcatdetective:
       
 (DIR) Post #A941Bfw9iVhCYN6kNs by lis@miniwa.moe
       2021-07-07T00:15:27.312416Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Horizon_Innovations @khm https://frinika.com/
       
 (DIR) Post #A9BDF4X5HoklGDUDoG by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-11T02:55:05Z
       
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       @steve @fabiscafe Sorry, I don't accept the claim that the only way to improve software is by surveilling its users.  That sort of ivory-tower daddy-knows-best garbage that turned the IT industry into a bottom-feeding minimum-viable-industry.  None of the surveillance programs return accurate information anyway -- users who CAN block DO block, so you wind up with usage data skewed toward less-competent users, which just reinforces the superiority complex.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9BDF50rV6ZYkZQ0Dw by khm@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-07-11T02:56:58Z
       
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       @steve @fabiscafe Incidentally, laws protecting people's civil rights are not "regulatory pitfalls."  They're exactly the sort of laws we need, now that we have several decades of evidence that profit-driven software organizations operate in an absolute ethical and moral vacuum.  Democratic governments are going to need tools to protect people from these vultures.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9BDF5PK2A8dyQrXLk by OscillatingAgama@gleasonator.com
       2021-07-11T13:01:52.800263Z
       
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       @khm @fabiscafe Do you really believe that half a billion popups that you clicked have somehow protected you? The practice of lobbying such as Google's GDPR is only possible due to the inability of ordinary people and legislators to keep track of all the details of project implementation and management. If this were not the root of any lobbying project, Google could not have suddenly increased its advertising market share in Europe by 30% because its competitors did not have enough budget to handle the burden of GDPR administration.