Post A8dHCZ47JCjDWEI4Bs by Ember_Simone@spinster.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #A8cVuQUfkAkbsNYot6 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:16:09.604617Z
       
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       Did anyone catch Jonny Best calling a mild GC view bigotry on “The Mess” I have to say I found it very disappointing to then see all guests defend the idea of “the feminine homosexual that needs to transition” completely ignoring that in itself is a gross misogynistic stereotype. Should we be so supportive when very tanned white people declare themselves black? My 30 something ex brother in law is very immature is it ok if he hangs around in the school playground? Seriously though, stop trying to ornament the concept of trans with some sort of wholesome core, it’s never been anything but tired misogynystic stereotyping. From 55ish minutes in…https://youtu.be/mC7wRTKz2wU
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cWTVthe27Ulr01Mu by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:22:29.900358Z
       
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       “I didn’t come here for bigotry”
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cXIG0YTstoG8Oup6 by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:24:51.115160Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Well, fuck off then, I say to him, if that is your take, stupid man.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cXYBPVLIJYdKfHF2 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:34:32.381160Z
       
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       @HebrideanHecate as I say it was very disappointing to see everyone then launch into an apologetic true trans diatribe. Either everyone who says they are “trans” is are or you are genuinely playing favourites based on very misogynistic standards. It’s truly ridiculous to propose that some men really are the impossible and defend that stance.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cXrYfJ6bZIG8IM76 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:38:02.340420Z
       
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       @HebrideanHecate and as I saw someone say on twitter let’s face it those dear “homosexual transsexuals” are up to their hairy necks in sissy porn. Let’s stop playing games.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cYUdbsefX0tAKKfY by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:40:02.635011Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @HebrideanHecate the idea that homosexual transsexuals are somehow OK in a way that agp freaks are not is ridiculous. its still making your entire life revolve around misogynistic stereotypes and wanting access to women's spaces.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cYXXtUMaZM1tww6a by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:45:38.281500Z
       
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       @lezpaulguitars @HebrideanHecate exactly! It’s justifying the desires of those men taking priority over women and girls!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ce43CA1NyE970Brk by GCat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T19:47:08.780538Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @HebrideanHecate Disappointing, but understandable. I find that in real conversations I often capitulate to the suggestion that there is a tiny group of "true trans." It's a point I'm working on pushing back on because ultimately this capitulation ends up weakening my argument, as you have pointed out. It's hard to hold the line on the true trans point because of course it is impossible to talk to everyone on earth to ascertain whether someone is "truly trans." And a lot of us who have looked into this tend to be detail oriented, committed to understanding nuance, and careful in our words, so it is very easy to get tripped up here.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ce43mJqwtTxFv4E4 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T20:47:32.061043Z
       
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       @GCat @HebrideanHecate You can be “Detail oriented, committed to understanding nuance and careful in our words” and know it’s demeaning (and dangerous) to women to state (contrary to reality!!) that some men are women.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ce5deDyceHUWszDM by RealMapelFlavour@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T20:46:44.404652Z
       
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       @Ladyfat   'Pity the poor HST and his vulgar interpretation of women's existence.' 😩   Straight or gay, the bro code is hard wired, so of course the priority is always going to men no matter how stupid, unstable, or wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ceg9ZujmQiwmHVom by GCat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T20:53:29.031216Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @HebrideanHecate I agree with all of your points that capitulating here is dangerous. I've definitely gotten better at drawing a hardline but it has taken me years to develop the confidence to do so. I wonder if it is social conditioning -and trying to find common ground - that leads some of us to bend on this, even when we know it is wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cegA09AFPiG8YShs by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T20:54:25.216630Z
       
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       @GCat @HebrideanHecate it’s certainly an element because women are taught form an early age to prioritise men over all else.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8chrj7nDUfgExL1iC by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T21:26:35.333327Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @HebrideanHecate If "true trans" exist, then why can't anyone point to an example of just one of them?
       
 (DIR) Post #A8chvQxShZ4N3WH1Xc by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T21:06:15.654221Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @HebrideanHecate I've seen gay men run around with their heads cut off trying to say that hsts men are somehow not a threat to women's rights or safety in any way, and its only convinced me further that we need more organizations ran by women and that we can't trust men to not defend the so-called lesser evils that are essentially what led to this being an issue in the first place
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ctVMnwiji25w9wWW by ghost_@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T23:37:13.354104Z
       
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       @Ladyfat the idea of "true twans hsts males needing to twansition" is the 21st century version of conversion therapy. what these people are trying to say is "these gay people who are so gnc they can't possibly remain as their real biological sex need to be chemically and/or physically castrated". HOW DO THESE INDIVIDUALS NOT REALISE HOW FUCKING HOMOPHOBIC THIS RHETORIC IS???
       
 (DIR) Post #A8dHCZ47JCjDWEI4Bs by Ember_Simone@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T23:43:29.590328Z
       
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       THIS!!! change yourself you can’t like someone of the same sex or things our society associates with the opposite gender for some reason. 🙄 @ghost_ @Ladyfat
       
 (DIR) Post #A8dHCZaNNGX58HNpTM by ghost_@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T23:45:23.569676Z
       
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       @Ember_Simone @Ladyfat yep. the whole concept of "twanstrenderism" and "twansexualism" only exists because of homophobia, misogyny and gender/sex role stereotypes.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8dHEz8DMn8KwNMSP2 by ThemysciraSteel@spinster.xyz
       2021-06-24T23:42:06.141079Z
       
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       @ghost_ @Ladyfat Right? Like being gay or bi isn’t something that involves physically changing your body for. Being LGB is something you are. Being trans is something you do.
       
 (DIR) Post #A963UrW9TOhYCF8oro by Dingo123@spinster.xyz
       2021-07-09T01:01:30.187331Z
       
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       @ghost_ @Ladyfat The idea of believing that someone needs to be poisoned or mutilated because of their personality is heinous.
       
 (DIR) Post #A96fzxkc91HQlQA9xY by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2021-07-09T08:30:32.755670Z
       
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       @Dingo123 @ghost_ the idea that some men “are not men” is heinous.