Post A8Rd8KmCMLcX8emIEK by mark@metalhead.club
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 (DIR) Post #A8RYZt1ybuuxQPTcY4 by ulintl@mstdn.io
       2021-06-19T12:24:11Z
       
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       Gerade weil #RISCV immer wichtiger und erfolgreicher wird und die wahrscheinlich sogar DIE Speerspitze von #OpenHardware ist, macht es mir große Sorge, dass der Hauptentwickler #SiFive gerade von #Intel übernommen werden sollhttps://www.heise.de/news/Milliarden-Uebernahme-Intel-soll-Interesse-an-RISC-V-Entwickler-SiFive-haben-6068890.html
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Rd8KmCMLcX8emIEK by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-06-19T13:15:13Z
       
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       @ulintl I've been saying for a while that Intel are going to need to look to RISC-V if it wants to stay in the processor business...  I don't know whether they really need SiFive's expertise to do that though, or whether the $2B is for some already developed design that either threatens Intel further, or would give them an advantage in the market.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8WUUX15bUQNft3JRo by ulintl@mstdn.io
       2021-06-21T21:31:59Z
       
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       @mark You are right, that #Intel needs something different than #x86 in the long-run and something with attraction.However it's a very bad thing in my eyes, that important part of developing of an open-source CPU architecture is in the same hands like maybe the biggest CPU-manufacturer.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8WWjPRiEVdERlj9JQ by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-06-21T21:57:04Z
       
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       I dunno, @ulintl I don't really see much of a difference between Intel and SiFive's business practice. How much of SiFive's output has been #opensource to date?But neither do I see #RISCV being silenced by Intel buying SiFive. SiFive have sold a billion cores to date. Andes Technology have sold 7 Billion. And then there's Codasip, Bluespec, Espressif and Cortus among lots of others too...In the end it might come down to Governments and universities to insist on open source chips.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8ci46R8Mwse13HnqS by ulintl@mstdn.io
       2021-06-24T21:31:54Z
       
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       @mark Per se this is a totally legitimate move.Though I feel very uncomfortable. SiFive is the dominant "product-maker" of the open-licenses.This is different zu ARM, that developes standard-core, which in the meantime almost all manufacturers license and use.Of course, nobody forbids others to develop their own RISC-V cores - but these organisations aside of SiFive yet have to be created.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cjIwpITwtUVZEMuu by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-06-24T21:46:13Z
       
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       @ulintl SiFive seems to be the company that people see as predominant, because it was set up by the guys who developed #RISCV, but Andes Technology have sold 7 times as many chips and the XuanTie 910 is a powerful chip from T-Head.I share your worry that Intel will  corrupt RISC-V to their will by developing proprietary modules, and then through scale, they'll oblige everyone to use their closed source chips.There are going to be Open Hardware alternatives though, I'm sure of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8deG4aUrdQj684swy by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-06-25T08:24:22Z
       
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       @ulintl Actually... What Intel will probably feel is an imperative to keep their Enterprise customers, is an X86 to #RISCV translation layer akin to Apple's Rosetta 2.