Post A6Ca2eC6Ux9867Xe52 by marcosg@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #A6CYS6hNSNhtplBLXs by metalune@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T10:59:39Z
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Don't blame google for them tracking you through their services, blame yourself for using their services and thereby supporting their businessmodel. We can only make change if we change. I see a lot of people say they use google through some anonymized gate but I believe that it's the wrong way to approach it if you actually want to make a change.
(DIR) Post #A6CZVwcCzL1dfo9rDE by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:11:31Z
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@metalune This is a bad take. Google has systematically made people dependent on them, and taken steps to lock people into their systems.
(DIR) Post #A6Ca2eC6Ux9867Xe52 by marcosg@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:17:28Z
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@metalune the real issue is they track you regardless of you're using their service or not.
(DIR) Post #A6CaKgPYzgD0BcRBHE by metalune@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:20:41Z
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@wizzwizz4 of course, there is a diff wether you are using it for work, because some places require you to use idk, smth like Google Docs, or Google Drive. But we won't change google by doing the same we've always been doing, they don't care wether you're using their services with a bad taste in your mouth or not.
(DIR) Post #A6CaOcb17YLpVnfm0O by metalune@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:21:25Z
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@marcosg indeed, that IS a problem. but that's why I said "tracking you through their services" by which I mean "if you are using their services, don't be mad at them for tracking you"
(DIR) Post #A6Cd7PccPAkgDFuJuK by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:51:53Z
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@metalune But we *should* still blame Google – we should be working to ensure accountability. Talk to your politicians, and stuff like that.We programmers need to build stable, interoperable, usable alternatives, so it's slightly less impossible for people to leave Google.
(DIR) Post #A6CdODU8mZ6nUhxGMK by Metruzanca@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T11:54:58Z
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@metalune the issue is its hard to compete with their "free software" products, which you pay for with your data vs ones that you pay with your money.There's a bunch of good apps out there like protonmail/tutanota for email or mega.nz for drive which are both free and don't track you. But these usually don't get the visibility they deserve.The mainstream is used to paying with their data. Thankfully we're making progress nowadays, but it's still slow.
(DIR) Post #A6CgrUdWOQAMwrziVc by rsheftel@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T12:33:52Z
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@metalune blame the politicians who allow their abusive business model to exist
(DIR) Post #A6Ch1u4mfCDmkCi63E by metalune@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T12:35:45Z
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@rsheftel I don't know why but I'm not a BIG fan of the government controlling everything, I think in the end We should be the ones who make the change.
(DIR) Post #A6Ch7nSUBH3bxPbgAa by marcosg@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T12:36:50Z
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@metalune Oh, of course! I was just complaining about Google tracking you regardless of you using their service, which is immoral. They can do whatever they want on their services while complying with the law. People using their services must know it, and not complain for that.
(DIR) Post #A6Cre4kWQboqOO4cOu by rsheftel@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T14:34:42Z
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@metalune think of this like a collective action problem, and the government is like a union to let your voice be heard. Read Upton Sinclar's The Jungle... you are the worked and Google is the abusive meat packing employer. You need a union to have your voice heard.
(DIR) Post #A6CrnXkTyjZYwFZNKq by metalune@fosstodon.org
2021-04-13T14:36:20Z
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@rsheftel I usually think of governments more like big Mamas trying to make sure that her kids don't kill each other.