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(DIR) Post #A596pNkH9asqQEq4nI by StrawberrySiren@spinster.xyz
2021-03-12T21:12:55.756912Z
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Real tired of these women and likely kids coming to the rescue for trans people. None of them has spent more than three seconds researching or critically thinking why people are criticizing the trans movement. But even if they did the search pages are full of mainstream media and social media enforcing this agenda. We need to keep spreading information online and talking irl so people can know the truth. I think the best method is talking to their emotions, just like tras claim trans are "the most marginalized and opressed group" to make people feel like they have to stick up with for them. Tell them about instances of women being assaulted by trans, rape centers being closed down and terrorized, kids lives getting ruined after surgery and hormones. That way seems to helped the few times I tried to get other people to question. A lot of people aren't even paying attention online to it at all so even talking about one crazy thing like changing the language to all gender neutral for kids in school learnint makes normies question things.
(DIR) Post #A59MMrEU2ZXSkBOAfw by senryu@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:03:58.869387Z
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@StrawberrySiren And then they say "educate yourself" to which I reply: I did, which is why I changed my mind.
(DIR) Post #A59NGOTQ9YG1lXrDSy by AthenasWrench2@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:13:37.698564Z
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@StrawberrySiren - I was just blocked on Facebook for that exact reason. Crazy handmaiden calling people bigots. Said she was a rape survivor then accused women of weaponizing their trauma. Promptly blocked me when I posted links with facts. Handmaidens don't care about women, they care about men.
(DIR) Post #A59NLoTMurrRqgPv28 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:18:21.390828Z
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@StrawberrySiren I'm really hoping the show about Jazz Jennings peaks a few people. How can you watch that poor kid and not be?
(DIR) Post #A59NljuCWHAxDGKXSq by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:21:12.987636Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren A few women have watched this show with me but they have a totally different impression. They really admire the mother and think Jazz is brave and stunning. I can’t understand how no one sees it for what it really is. I mean why are people ao brainless?
(DIR) Post #A59NpfvNGN5w1YkvAW by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:23:45.094772Z
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@Ismat @StrawberrySiren OK. That's sad. That's so effing sad.
(DIR) Post #A59Rk1ghplY1bLSNRA by Linnas@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:38:21.613413Z
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@Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren They would have to acknowledge that they have been watching several seasons of child abuse on TV. It is a big leap to make.
(DIR) Post #A59RlQrLjQktxY6bbc by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T00:59:58.990161Z
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@Linnas @Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren I don't have high hopes for Jazz. I see her youtube videos and they are so forced and she seems unhappy underneath. Just the admission by her mom that she doesn't want to do the maintenance on her new structure, to put it as grossly as possible...I just don't know about this kid, every time I see her she seems sad.
(DIR) Post #A59RnRPgdxtuFx7mLI by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:05:24.579616Z
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@alanecarry @Linnas @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren well, he is a gay man caught up in this nonsense. He would like a lot of boyfriends and have fun. (Like he expressed in one of the episodes.) but no straight boy wants to date as he would like. He was waiting for his gender surgery aka crastration so he would be a normal girl as he thought only his penis is making boys stay away from him but even after the crastration straight boys are not interested in him. This child was sold a lie that there is such thing as a sex change operation.
(DIR) Post #A59RsVemIIXsrgbGSW by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:07:14.094799Z
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@alanecarry @Linnas @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren https://youtu.be/CeJU_5i0fpk
(DIR) Post #A59SOJcUaARenehHg8 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:14:50.061462Z
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@Ismat @alanecarry @Linnas @StrawberrySiren I just... I don't know how many of you remember a few months ago, when my son told me he was trans, except it turned out he's just gay and wants to be pretty? I just feel so sad for Jazz. WTF is wrong with being a fabulous gay boy? I grew up in the ass end of Alberta's oil country in the 80s, girls in my school got mocked for being too froofy, but there were still a couple of fabulous gay boys in my school. They got bullied, but they were there. How have we regressed to trans the gay away? How did this get marketed as progressive?
(DIR) Post #A59SPxWfhKOar8l4lc by xzy45@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:13:26.205621Z
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@Ismat @alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Linnas @StrawberrySiren I am so incredibly sad for all these children who have been deluded and cruelly misled. Their stories are travesties of the worst child cruelties en masse in years, if ever.
(DIR) Post #A59SRfEEhKdGgewqkS by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:14:32.095926Z
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@Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @Linnas @StrawberrySiren holy crap reading that was so brutal. I feel awful thinking about it. you are so right. especially because jazz is so young. young male egos are so tough. he will probably end up with a mtf if anyone
(DIR) Post #A59UEVDon7WJnNbYAa by Lieliver@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:18:34.040547Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry How did you handle that all with your son? Like how did you get him to revaluate his feelings and realize he is just a gay boy?
(DIR) Post #A59UEVa9S5Nuue3Nyq by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:35:27.602516Z
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@Lieliver @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I asked him some REALLY pointed questions, and pointed out that 'puberty blockers' are mostly chemotherapy agents with extreme long term effects, and that cross sex hormones create major long term health risks. I pointed out that medication and surgery would never make him a woman, that he's already over 6 feet tall and it's hard enough for me to find women's shoes, and I'm only a men's size 10. I told him it's fine to be gay, it's just how he's wired. When he answered my questions, it became apparent that he never actually wanted to be a girl, he never wanted boobs, and he definitely does not want to be castrated. He'd been spending too much time on social media talking about boys he was crushing on, and thinking that liking men sexually meant he had to be a woman. That wanting to be pretty meant he has to be a woman. That it would be easier if he was a woman. I told him to Google David Bowie, Freddy Mercury, and Prince for examples of GNC men (I am not endorsing anything about those guys except their sartorial choices!!). He told me that he felt like he had to have all the answers right now, so I pointed out that he was (at the time) 15, then asked him WTF 15 year olds know about life, because at his age, I knew shit.Anyway, just the other day he told me he's been losing reddit karma for supporting superstraight and supergay.
(DIR) Post #A59UJrM7vPR1tI2sDI by Help-me-hoagie-man@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:35:27.270295Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry feminine men and masculine women are beautiful and awesome. We just live in a society where this is not accepted.
(DIR) Post #A59UMOSboWuH8rHlc8 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:36:53.832974Z
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@Help-me-hoagie-man @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry exactly!! Normal variation is normal.
(DIR) Post #A59UOHrTJtJXFqom6y by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:17:01.142045Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren i maybe can't find the evidence but I'm convinced there is MENA/islamofascist money piling into pushing the trans stuff too. They fill up female sports teams with mtf in Iran and transitioning is the only way to save their lives, they are executed if gay. Bilek's research has them meeting in these countries that are heavily islamic...it is a perfect storm.
(DIR) Post #A59UOIFvqwscTiGJEm by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:25:43.934704Z
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@alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Linnas @StrawberrySiren I come from a partly Islamic society and I assure you even the most fundamentalist muslims are not interested in this. What is going on in Iran is the old fashioned crastration as punishment for being gay thing. They are not being turned into women but into eunuchs.
(DIR) Post #A59USKXzHBrsk6dG5Y by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:37:58.106683Z
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@alanecarry @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren I think we in the west can look a little closer to home to find causative agents, tbh.
(DIR) Post #A59UT25pNFUFnVnOIy by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:22:33.765381Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry You saved your son!
(DIR) Post #A59UXMY7GBM8Or5lbc by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:38:52.794823Z
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@Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry the jury's still out, I mean, being a teenager was never easy, but he knows his mom has his back, no matter what he wears or who he loves.
(DIR) Post #A59Umyxmih3bsmXw0W by Linnas@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:41:23.701425Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Lieliver @Ismat @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry Your son is very fortunate to have such an amazing Mom.
(DIR) Post #A59Uu9I0j33Lw5QMAy by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:42:59.854687Z
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@Linnas @Ismat @Lieliver @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry he's a neat kid and deserves to have the best mom I can possibly give him.
(DIR) Post #A59V23b5lzSwbA7Vwm by hanafiyyah@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:43:47.419309Z
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@alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren Iranian here (Islamic jurisprudence is also my field, fwiw). The Iranian problem is the result of a shadh/weak Shi'i position on the possibility of literally changing one's sex being mainstreamed for the simple reason that Khomeini held that opinion, which overrode every other jurist in the country. Two main points for understanding:1- Sunnis (~90% of the global Muslim population) do not hold permissive opinion towards transgenderism, and such surgeries/hormone treatments are considered forbidden without actual medical need.2- Majority of Shi'i jurists hold opinion similar to Sunnis. Wrote a longer post on this when I was compelled to actually look into some of the contemporary and classical Shi'i lit in Farsi and Arabic on the topic but idk how to search it. While the Muslim world has a host of problems, this one is not ours.
(DIR) Post #A59a48gmJRqqjwalcm by Lieliver@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:08:57.581842Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry Wow he's very lucky to have a supportive mom that actually wants to help him sort out those feelings. It sucks that the world puts so much pressure on him and that social media is such a negative influence (especially over that reddit stuff, gosh). It's great he was receptive though and didn't immediately turn against you xx. I know most of my friends were groomed into thinking their parents were the devil for not immediately supporting them.
(DIR) Post #A59a8pRxGptwWEtXQ8 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:41:40.555984Z
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@Lieliver @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I'm still very, very concerned, but we have always had fairly open and honest communication. It could still go horribly sideways.
(DIR) Post #A59aBN1rOYuPF3tvgO by Linnas@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:08:35.635102Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse Your story reminded me of my own coming out.When I finally accepted my sexuality and decided to come out to my mom, we had the following conversation:Me: Mom, we have to have a serious conversation.Mom: Please, don’t tell me you are transitioning.Me: WTF? Why would I do that?After assuring her that no, I was not transitioning, not thinking about transitioning, and would not be thinking about transitioning, I came out.I got the usual “maybe you should try” and “maybe you just haven’t met the right one yet”, but overall, it wasn’t too badIn retrospect, I think she had been harbouring the fear of me transitioning for years (I am butch, have never worn makeup or high heels, or shaved; I wore a suite to my graduation, etc.) and was so relieved to hear that I wasn’t that she didn’t even stress over my sexuality too much.And it was before the trans train really took off.@Lieliver @Ismat @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry
(DIR) Post #A59aEL3fBBgFzw9y2S by BeachBleach@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:07:14.446935Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Lieliver @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I think that as part of their compulsions, they are OC about the gender woo woo, and when they say "nonbinary" or "GNC" they have a list in their heads of which actions/articles of clothing are male, and which are female, when it is really not necessary. Like they have to keep score in the obsession over their behavior and dress. Decades ago we had movie stars like Marlene Dietrich/Greta Garbo in a tux, and they said that was being androgynous. Androgynous is a perfectly acceptable word. I just thought women in a tux, top hat and cane is a tired old sterotype of Depression-era musicals. I wear men's T shirts a lot, does that make me enby or GNC? I used to wear my husband's slacks, because we have the same length of inseam. I don't think that does anything to change that I am a woman.
(DIR) Post #A59aL3o9iI3AWb6yGG by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:43:53.166061Z
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@BeachBleach @Ismat @Lieliver @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I'm pretty gnc, so I think that helped him realize clothing does not determine gender.
(DIR) Post #A59aTuF2eNAVSfuBFY by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T01:57:45.240243Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren I'm not saying exclusively. Look at what just happened in Scotland with Yousaf passing that horrible hate speech law which upheld the rights of trans males over natal women. Islamofascist misogyny. And certainly a cautionary tale for any other democracies that deny that islamofascist influence on western democracy can alter our culture. Laugh now, cry later.
(DIR) Post #A59aTud9CkS0fRBQp6 by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:02:01.576862Z
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@alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Linnas @StrawberrySiren Yousef is completely British born. I don’t think he knows much about Islam other then what little he learned from his family. I am south asian and totally from that culture but my son born here in the US will be completely American. Children’s culture is of the place they grew up in. There is absolutely no Islamic influence on wester Society that I can see. You have just come under the spell of right wing racist scare mongers. I don’t know whether to laugh at your ignorance or cry about your obvious racism.
(DIR) Post #A59bVP1hmInTBOwcYS by xzy45@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:52:56.894725Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Lieliver @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry awesome work there! I had no idea puberty blockers were in any way related to chemo... fuck!
(DIR) Post #A59bt1AA9bRg7aA2zY by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:01:13.875837Z
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@xzy45 @Ismat @Lieliver @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I may have oversimplified things a bit, lupron is a hormonal agent, but it is used to treat both breast and prostate cancer.My point stands, though, these are major medications with huge, long lasting side effects.Considering the way women get shamed for using life saving medications during pregnancy, or even consuming caffeine, it's, IMHO, batshit crazy that hormonal agents are being given to children willy-nilly.
(DIR) Post #A59buAS16gujDW3oB6 by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:55:48.913199Z
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@Linnas @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Lieliver @StrawberrySiren that's amazing. I am really getting annoyed at this bs I keep reading where the transmaniacs are saying that butch women "won't just transition"...that one makes me want to do violence to them. how dare they.
(DIR) Post #A59c8denJf7HqtwB84 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:04:02.681087Z
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@alanecarry @Linnas @Ismat @Lieliver @StrawberrySiren Yeah, the "you're a transman in denial" trope is just fucking insulting. How is it that we're never supposed to question anyone's gender identity, but butches get told they aren't women, and women who reject the label cis are told we're ignorant bigots? Almost like they don't trust women, innit?
(DIR) Post #A59daV6OoeO9NmhO6a by MellowMarigold@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:15:08.922517Z
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@Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren Ismat when I was teenager I am Jazz was a new show which came on TLC and I watched a few episodes in the evenings. I am couple of years older than jazz. This show made me feel nothing but sympathy for trans people.Watching the show I was felt so sorry for her but I found parents soo irresponsible. It is irresponsible exposing a young child vulnerabilities for the world to see . The parents should be ashamed of themselves.Jazz has 2 brothers who appeared on the show I personally believed secretly the mum wanted a daughter but couldn't admit to herself or anyone. The mum was so supportive even taking her to hospital for treatments. I felt so sorry for her because she wanted to be like the teenage girls her age having fun and dating boys. The boys at school didn't want to date her and she was even crying to her friends in one episode about it.Jazz identifying as woman she got a lot of hate comments online and death threats .She had to spend her young life never knowing where she truly belonged in the world. She didn't feel comfortable in the body as the little boy she was created to be and not accepted as the girl she desired to be. Jazz never got be a normal teenager her life and her issues was made public for the world to see . When I teenager I never used to fit in or belong so i felt sorry for Jazz . Feeling like you dont belong is so isolating and all you want is to be wanted by people.Fitting in gives you a sense of security and certainty which ultimately becomes comforting.Jazz was so adorable as a little boy and if she lived as a boy she most likely would have grown up to be a very handsome man.Jazz never got be a normal teenager her life and her issues was made public for the world to see . Jazz her issues and the show will be there forever. If she wants to get married or have kids this show and the fame of the show will follow her everywhere. She will never have a normal life it is so sad.The parents were wrong some things so never should become public viewing. Her issues should be dealt with privately.TLC should ashamed allowing a vulnerable child issues to be made entertainment and so called raising awareness for the world to see.
(DIR) Post #A59daVfUiASf8d7Po8 by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:20:17.212152Z
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@MellowMarigold @Ismat @StrawberrySiren that's the other thing about that show, how can any parent turn their child into a roadside attraction? I couldn't imagine doing that to my kids!
(DIR) Post #A59djbeFqaaYI6sOB6 by Linnas@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:21:29.110279Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @alanecarry @Ismat @Lieliver @StrawberrySiren I am personally not particularly offended or insulted by the “transman in denial" narrative. First of all, nothing people says about who I am, or my appearance can hurt me, those nerve endings died a long time ago. But even more importantly, I understand why they are so obsessed with it. My existence invalidates them and being trans is all about validation.However, the impact of this narrative on those who are not as comfortable with who they are is truly devastating.
(DIR) Post #A59fB95phxxJn7TIKu by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:37:52.296727Z
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@Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren Unfortunately, two of my friends think Jazz is a good argument for "true trans," as well. The horrific surgery was just a little bump in the road of this interesting woman's life, according to fans.
(DIR) Post #A59hNPm7i5RCugEM88 by bornwithovaries@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T03:45:18.896326Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @Ismat @GrumpyOldNurse @StrawberrySiren Spoken like people who've never had serious surgery.
(DIR) Post #A59hsfwPehC61nwwEK by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:00:41.845785Z
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@hanafiyyah @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren also what is considered "medical need" for these treatments and surgeries, is there a category at all in the sunni world wherein one can be transgender or is that the same as gay and they just kill you?
(DIR) Post #A59hsgHgNcCx5ltvNo by hanafiyyah@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T02:18:12.412743Z
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@alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren medical need would be like, women going through menopause having significant decrease in quality of life without estrogen, or similarly breast cancer. Or corrective operation for intersex condition.
(DIR) Post #A59hsgbtAUN46RM3sW by BeachBleach@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T04:03:59.136903Z
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@hanafiyyah @alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren Postmenopausal women use hormone replacement therapy (HRT) as an anti-aging treatment. You can get pellets drilled into your butt that slow release over three months. Estrogen and testosterone. Women need a bit of testosterone for motivation and confidence as well as sex drive. I think T is the reason for the confidence of the mediocre white man.
(DIR) Post #A59hsgw5xMXB76oCNE by hanafiyyah@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T04:06:02.439145Z
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@BeachBleach @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry ohh I thought the estrogen was used mostly like for hot flashes and pains during menopause? Doesn't it have that use as well ie non cosmetic?
(DIR) Post #A5B11lxUfQyP87M6rI by Ismat@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T19:13:50.130762Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @Lieliver @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @alanecarry I had my first crush on a boy as a 3 year old.(another 3 year old) It was a huge thrill was when his mother made him hold my hand on my third birthday for a photo. I try to imagine what that is like for gay and lesbian kids. They are bombarded with heterosexual imagery from the time they are born. It must feel wrong instead of thrilling to like the same sex. When everything in your world is a about a handsome boy liking a pretty girl, what does a boy who wants to also be liked by handsome men feel like. As adults we forget how important being liked by the sex we are interested in is to pre teens and teens.
(DIR) Post #A5G27WnItFmbjfeHz6 by alanecarry@spinster.xyz
2021-03-13T18:01:58.288803Z
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@BeachBleach @hanafiyyah @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren my suspicion is that low t is the reason for so many of these males transitioning middle age. As far as "pellets drilled into your butt" does this mean in the anus or do they literally drill a whole new hole through your skin. I've never heard this, it sounds kind of rough.
(DIR) Post #A5G27XCpMMCR0paflg by BeachBleach@spinster.xyz
2021-03-16T03:46:22.921056Z
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@alanecarry @GrumpyOldNurse @Ismat @Linnas @StrawberrySiren @hanafiyyah Basically, grumpy old man syndrome is low T.