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 (DIR) Post #A3Mhosag4F2tSNp8z2 by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T14:53:41Z
       
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       One of my favourite tricks that a writer can pull, is to throw something at you after you've gotten comfortable in a story, which reframes everything, so when you re-read or re-watch it, you have a different context and pick things up which you missed before.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MiSHr846nF6rJHIe by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T15:00:48Z
       
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       ...contains one of my favourite examples of this.The first time Howl appears on screen, he says, "Ah, sorry, I've been looking for you!" At the time, it's just framed as an offbeat way to get rid of those two soldiers bothering Sophie.Then at the end of the story, Sophie goes back in time, sees Howl when he was younger, and says, "Wait for me in the future!"HE KNEW THE ENTIRE TIME
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MiTcELna5iacnysa by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T15:01:04Z
       
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       I just really love things like this.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MilJLijknxF9grAW by mood@jorts.horse
       2021-01-18T15:04:14Z
       
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       @InvaderXan it gives me actual goosebumps every time bc it’s like pulling the cork out of my brain and letting the whole concept ive formed out, and in the leftover deflated balloon i get to frantically reconstruct everything with the new information; it is an exciting free-falling mind-feeling!! and it’s wild that it can be induced through storytelling!!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MitMEXtgYwVPAflQ by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T15:05:42Z
       
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       @mood Absolutely! Suddenly, you find yourself going back over everything you've built up in your mind, finding connections you didn't see before, and changing everything around. It's just brilliant!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MkYWtpFLyRPbfx5s by noam@libranet.de
       2021-01-18T15:23:16Z
       
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       Not quite the same, but I've just finished watching The Witcher. It's really well made in that they have three time lines that slowly converge, and little by little you understand that the thing happened decades later than that other thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Mq28Vkz9pOEQM2sq by Mayana@dragonscave.space
       2021-01-18T16:25:39Z
       
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       @InvaderXan Same here! In my opinion, it's especially important for interactive mediums like video games, since those generally want there to be replayability, and making those little details suddenly take on a completely different meaning certainly adds that. Especially when the reframe makes you question how good the seemingly obvious choices you made really were ...Since I can't resist, Code 7 is one game that I think does that pretty well. Damn, that foreshadowing ... :(
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MsxrUacQY49XShoe by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T16:58:34Z
       
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       @Mayana I think even with conventional linear stories TBH. Like, modern culture has become so obsessed with spoilers and throwing in unexpected things purely to surprise the audience. If it's just a surprise then it's only interesting once. But if it's a well written twist that happens to be surprising, then the rewatch can almost feel even better. Instead of a surprise, you now have dramatic irony as you wait for the inevitable!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MtBeZRSTSK8BJ9aC by Mayana@dragonscave.space
       2021-01-18T17:01:00Z
       
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       @InvaderXan Definitely, it works very well everywhere. The example you mentioned, for example, is one I myself loved.Games just have a certain advantage when it comes to that "waiting" for the inevitable. Because you aren't just waiting. Oh no. You have to take all the actions yourself, even though you know exactly what they will lead you to. And you could prevent the fate of the characters in this universe, if only you stopped playing ... but what's the fun in that?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MtKFPcMlISi3oKlk by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T17:02:36Z
       
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       @Mayana Oh, that's true. In a game, it's not just that you know what's coming and you're watching the characters being cheerfully unaware. It's that you know what's coming and you still have to actively cause it to happen anyway! Ouch.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3MtOAb2DHocvq1Nnk by Mayana@dragonscave.space
       2021-01-18T17:03:18Z
       
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       @InvaderXan Exactly! 🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #A3NCOgUjVwVAzZ25MO by hafnia@wandering.shop
       2021-01-18T20:36:17Z
       
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       @InvaderXan yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss, it's so excellent. I love this about the book, too -- her being like, "oh our meeting was an accident" and he's like, "no, you're a fucking witch and I KNEW IT and had to find you!"
       
 (DIR) Post #A3NMFdjJQKCdLuB5VY by InvaderXan@writing.exchange
       2021-01-18T22:26:43Z
       
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       @hafnia Yeah, I like how it's a different spin on basically the same concept. There's just something really interesting about any time when this one character knew what was going on all along, but we had no idea because we only know what the protagonist knows. It's a thing I've been trying to do recently with something I'm in the middle of writing, and it's interesting trying to plan it all out!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Pcb7pI7tW0Cqo8Zs by grainloom@cybre.space
       2021-01-20T00:39:16Z
       
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       @InvaderXan Yussss. All the hints in SU about the... well, That Big Thing. I love it when writers plan stuff out like that and it pays off :blobuwu: