Post A3FCwnUWS9PfGyWMPQ by kensanata@octodon.social
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(DIR) Post #A3FCwnAfdxX8HPEVSy by kensanata@octodon.social
2021-01-14T22:59:34Z
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As I was following some wiki-related links I ended up on Larry Sanger's blog, and his blog post. "We are deeply upset at Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and all the rest. Blocking President Trump from these giant corporate networks was just the last straw. Most of us already loathed these corporations for their violations of our basic digital rights (laid out here: Declaration of Digital Independence), but this? This crosses the line."https://larrysanger.org/2021/01/what-it-means-to-decentralize-social-media/Hm. I still want to know more, though…
(DIR) Post #A3FCwnUWS9PfGyWMPQ by kensanata@octodon.social
2021-01-14T23:01:54Z
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…so I'm reading and it's about some sort of client that turns Wordpress into a kind of small hub of online activity, so to say, but using Wordpress and blog posts and feeds, as far as I understand after a brief skim. But then I started wondering about feeds and how they don't scale. Also about how I think I'd prefer things not to scale. But still. Assume 1000 people follow me. Will their sites be hitting my site with 1000 requests per hour, or more? Yikes! I never thought about it like that.
(DIR) Post #A3FCwnhHghcZuYUYIi by kensanata@octodon.social
2021-01-14T23:04:26Z
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I wonder what the traffic on a single user ActivityPub instance is. If I don't post, nothing gets sent. But if I follow 1000 users, and they're all posting five times per day, I'm getting 5000 requests per day? Still sounds like it would scale better, though. 🤔 There must be a cool Wikipedia page talking about these sorts of pull/push networks, thinking about inactive accounts, and so on. I just never thought about it. Maybe RSS and Atom are … suboptimal in some way?
(DIR) Post #A3FCwo04YqeMqpHYaO by mike@social.chinwag.org
2021-01-14T23:07:16Z
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@kensanata just a small note - on even decade-old systems, requests measured in the thousands per hour is utterly negligible amounts of traffic. That would hardly register as even happening.
(DIR) Post #A3FCwoQexzuwBHin1k by kensanata@octodon.social
2021-01-14T23:08:39Z
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@mike Yeah, if you're serving static files I'm sure this is true. All I know is that for my Perl servers running wikis, this sadly isn't true.
(DIR) Post #A3FCwogxzMxezrLoRc by kragen@nerdculture.de
2021-01-15T00:04:38Z
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@kensanata @mike 3000 requests per hour is less than one request per second. Even if your server has only a single core, are your Wiki page load times in second-plus territory, including browser relayout time? Because that's kind of a bad user experience, isn't it?
(DIR) Post #A3FD2kdpxf7KAiiVeq by kragen@nerdculture.de
2021-01-15T00:05:46Z
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@kensanata @mike RSS feeds though are usually small in size, relatively light on the database, and relatively easy to cache
(DIR) Post #A3G5jZ7u2q9cR3e0lE by kensanata@octodon.social
2021-01-15T10:17:47Z
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@kragen Yeah, definitely design problems. My RSS files used to contain the equivalent of four weeks of wiki edits, rendered to HTML, maybe with diffs. Offering parametrisation of feeds was the first design mistake for sure.@mike
(DIR) Post #A3GUapYA6w3BcUrHSy by wim_v12e@octodon.social
2021-01-15T12:41:55Z
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@kensanata I made a simple model for this a while ago:https://github.com/wimvanderbauwhede/limited-systems/wiki/A-simple-model-for-network-data-size-and-disk-space-usage-of-a-fediverse-instance