Post A3C7ItQcQVICpqaY2y by anonymouskun@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #A3Bz130tFfFJiVX9we by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T10:44:20Z
       
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       Why the fuck does so many people recommend signal?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3BzAP0ErfLoWRgpSC by sozialwelten@ifwo.eu
       2021-01-13T10:45:49Z
       
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       @selea I guess because Elon Musk and Edward Snowden recommended it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3BzDnLQop56szDids by zem@conesphere.social
       2021-01-13T10:45:47Z
       
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       @selea Because they dont know about element/matrix probably!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3BzGaOFRL7zZoruYC by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-01-13T10:46:11Z
       
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       @selea Absolutely no idea. :/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3BzOmsyrhYWeF9cyu by m4iler@infosec.exchange
       2021-01-13T10:48:48Z
       
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       @selea Because no XMPP client so far enables SMS in-thread with safe messages.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C07f84YCdxcfbxk8 by SeanGeil@mastodon.social
       2021-01-13T10:56:39Z
       
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       @selea because its a simple installable alternative to WA. I think if you're using it only for your private phone contacts its enough for "real-life" freinds and family .
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C0A5vtrld1Ke4sEa by hackerncoder@encryptionin.space
       2021-01-13T10:57:10Z
       
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       @selea Because it is easy to use, remember, users are stupid, also it works like whatsapp.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C0FkV6SnkebBEvhI by hamjb@mstdn.social
       2021-01-13T10:58:06Z
       
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       @selea due to believe. Non professionals. Not even able to check requested app permissions themselves.Tell people loud enough "it's for your safety" and they run.Even if app can access same data and nobody of them can verify, which data are processed what way at server side.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C0PhFrO1AXQZqy6C by joacim@mastodon.fidonet.io
       2021-01-13T10:56:50Z
       
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       @selea You tell me.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C0chgJ6zEeW0QTDs by unabomber@social.here.blue
       2021-01-13T11:02:35.969410Z
       
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       @joacim @selea Same founder as Whatsapp. Even server side is open source: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-ServerBut we don’t if this is the version they are hosting.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C4VF7DJwnli0i26a by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T11:46:02Z
       
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       Now that people are being told that even WhatsApp cannot be trusted, many people are switching to services they are heard of. Signal and Telegram are well-known alternatives that people consider first. Their similarity (activation via phone number, features, UI etc) to WhatsApp makes them easy for us to recommend it to get our family and friends off WhatsApp.I don't think I could get my grandparents to use Briar. I am working on setting a Matrix instance for family.@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C5dAPsm6W3PFmeYK by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T11:58:22Z
       
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       @selea I am also pissed of too.. Signal doesn't give the privacy it claims to be giving. Just a "privacy washing".. "We care about your privacy"I guess the reason is Elon Musk.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C6KMRvubNRB7L6Y4 by jalada@fed.hvn.network
       2021-01-13T12:03:04.885882Z
       
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       @redstarfish @selea How do you feel about the difference in ownership e.g. open source and non-profit vs. closed source & owned by an advertising business?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C6KMkMo47e6HxpHU by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T12:06:22Z
       
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       @jalada I support free software, I don't support open-source and I don't care much when both the non-profit and corporation collecting data.@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C6Thv1SXg4N0P0m8 by mikael@mastodon.online
       2021-01-13T12:07:46Z
       
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       @selea Because some people have befriended not-nerds? 🤷‍♂️ Do you have have a better alternative for inter-normie communication?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C6mZnLt4jeg1oPFw by betoissues@mastodon.online
       2021-01-13T12:11:27Z
       
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       @redstarfish @selea for people switching over from whatsapp is easier to grasp
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C7ItQcQVICpqaY2y by anonymouskun@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T12:17:20Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @selea My suggestion would be just setup a irc server with tls implementation on your vps/home server, then install an irc client(like revolution irc) on Android, and connect to server and that's it. From then people can join and chat. For limiting outside connections, you could setup static ip and implement iptable rules to block outsiders. Irc brings back nostalgia.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C9XyiVFKEZUOH5ay by Unairedspecifics@linuxrocks.online
       2021-01-13T12:42:14Z
       
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       @selea guess it is "sexy" on the security-conveniant spectrumand lowhanging fruit in regards to improving personal security.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3C9u4fLo9k6JLKusy by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T12:46:34Z
       
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       @anonymouskunNot to everyone. My mum didn't know what chatroom is until I mentioned it few days ago.- People want 1 thing to talk to as many people as possible.- Receiving notifications in timely manner is important too. Revolution IRC dies or gets disconnected from time to time.- Voice and video calls are important as well.IRC is no go for my family. Especially for the elderlies learning how to smartphone.@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CKecqE4lczAOG8K8 by anonymouskun@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T14:47:01Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @selea I completely overlooked the video chat part. Sorry about that. Didn't know the problem with revolution irc either(haven't faced such issue myself). How about jitsi meet for video calling? Have you gave it a try? Also, what about xmpp, instead of irc?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CMv7VW1nz8oiZ5vs by anonymouskun@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T14:47:56Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @selea Or matrix could be a pretty good alternative nevertheless.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CMv7lp3B1rdIC7Lk by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T15:12:24Z
       
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       Video chat is the most easily overlooked piece, so I am used to at this point.I don't think it is a problem with Revolution IRC but how Android manages background apps and connections.Jitsi en/decoding can be heavy on some devices causing them to overheat, especially on WiFi (I think). My sister's previous phone overheat to stop working completely while we were on a Jitsi call, thus being previous phone. So, Jitsi has a bad reputation in my family 😬@anonymouskun @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CNEjVYxyY6AzwIpU by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T15:15:56Z
       
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       I am learning more about XMPP and Matrix. YunoHost has XMPP and email support out of the box. I may be able to use it if I can also set secure chat and call with it. Else I may go with Matrix which shouldn't get heavy since it will be solely for the relatives.@anonymouskun @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CUBMK1PmOb4msa5g by WandelStock@mastodon.art
       2021-01-13T11:42:20Z
       
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       @zem @selea Element/Matrix isn't all bliss either. But sure, it's better than Signal
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CUBMlJmIEKRReNdY by zem@conesphere.social
       2021-01-13T14:22:19Z
       
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       @WandelStockmatrix is in my opinion the best compromise between digital souverenity, data security and useability at the moment. matrix also has bridges, federation and multidevice capability. 😎@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CWfUgR5iKhbYrPjU by WandelStock@mastodon.art
       2021-01-13T16:34:54Z
       
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       @zem @selea I know, but biggest fails of the system:1 Forced encryption instead of optional. In areas with bad coverage messages gets corrupted and so not reliable.2 Element, is still very buggy. Every update brings new and important stuff (confetti), but loses more important stuff, like seeing if someone logs on in a room. I rely more on that my messages get delivered than totally secure and unreadable (read encrypted but not decrypted)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CWfZn06jYTRMyE9w by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T17:01:20Z
       
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       @WandelStock Regarding the element thing, if someone joined a room.This is now a setting, that you can enable actually :)@zem
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CWjnSVE8pmzfOYaG by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T17:02:09Z
       
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       @WandelStock The thing that I love about matrix is that it is a open standard, where you can use whatever client you like.@zem
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CYAsfE59gKuUpChU by klaushipp@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T17:18:03Z
       
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       @selea thank you for the hint. Actually I had just threema and signal in mind. Knowing that I want to dive into this matrix thing. ;) I think WhatsApp's move and lockdown is the best moment to get matrix running on the Homeserver :)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CZTHbiBLs1RAWHoW by anonymouskun@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T17:32:56Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @selea Well, I wish you the best of luck. ^_^
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CfATv0mgiVqJxu6K by WandelStock@mastodon.art
       2021-01-13T18:36:33Z
       
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       @selea @zem Show member stat events......yeah, about that. It isnt working at the non-beta. Since the last confetti update it stopped working. Not very convinient for moderating.And yes, there are other Android clients, Element is atm really the best.BTW it isnt all negative, i love matrix, i love the rooms, i love chatting on it. But i am on the network about 18 months at the moment and it has it ups and downs. The user experience needs a lot of polishing.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ChFA1EOk51TuEWQ4 by zem@conesphere.social
       2021-01-13T18:59:31Z
       
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       @selea @WandelStock ... and on the other hand with that electron reference implementation a full featured client for all platforms is available.Best of both worlds.... 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CjmDCDo1QUnfGHsu by mikael@mastodon.online
       2021-01-13T19:12:56Z
       
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       @JohanEmpa @selea I (much prefer and) use Element with the geeks and I recommend Signal to the rest. I can't imagine having to explain Matrix to the not-nerds. On-boarding is not what people expect or are used to. There are some attempts at building Android clients with a more traditional (in the sense of WhatsApp) UX, but it's not there.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CjmDQOxIljVdtbzE by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T19:28:13Z
       
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       @mikael If someone want to know what matrix is, I usually draw the parallel between matrix and email. Even my mother in law understands that :)But yes, a more simple client (Like Ditto!) would really be nice to recommend for non-nerds :)@JohanEmpa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CngGEE1CvSHecI08 by matro@mastodon.social
       2021-01-13T20:11:54Z
       
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       @selea Back when I was trying to hoist my family and friends out of SMS to something with any kind of security at all, Signal was literally the only viable option.XMPP w/ OTR didn’t meet the bars for “it works on mobile” or “it’s seamlessly secure by default”. The other options mentioned in this thread weren’t usable or didn’t even exist at the time.And for all its badness, it’s _still_ better than what most people use, and the UX for people in my social network is >= newer, better systems.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CnzvbQPknA6bqWu0 by mikael@mastodon.online
       2021-01-13T20:15:24Z
       
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       @selea @JohanEmpa Yes, I also try to explain federation by using the email example. But still, people usually aren't looking for a lecture, they just want to talk to me and  I'm already a nuisance because I'm asking them to do that outside Facepoop Assenger. Signal needs no explanation and has given me the ability to chat sans surveillance with most people I care about. For that I'm thankful.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Cougr1v9Ccs3DBHk by slacktoid@mastodon.lol
       2021-01-13T20:18:20Z
       
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       @JohanEmpaI tried Element with my parents and they were overwhelmed by the encryption backup setup and needing to keep another password in mind etc. Sadly its still more technical for the technically illiterate, part of me think they need to learn about this the other part is sympathetic to their ignorance in a way, signal on the other hand just works and gives the same whatsapp like experience.Sad but true.@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CouhgmoibRSZQVxQ by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-13T20:25:46Z
       
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       @slacktoid I actually skipped that part with the encryption backup, I added a random password and just forgot about it.Since cross-signing is a thing now it does not really matter :)@JohanEmpa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CqTsfi4kgvbyGEG8 by charims@social.pcwideopen.com
       2021-01-13T20:43:38.866898Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @selea I wish element supported having multiple accounts. I would setup a family homeserver and a business homeserver.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Cqk4anWRJzDTgTzc by rysiek@mastodon.social
       2021-01-13T20:45:50Z
       
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       @charims @murtezayesil @selea in a proper browser I would just open a separate tab.I love how Electron makes everything worse by effectively running a full browser but kneecapping it in most annoying ways. Electron! Double the RAM, half the usability!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CqvXt8wPSZGGjfnc by charims@social.pcwideopen.com
       2021-01-13T20:48:39.883874Z
       
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       @rysiek @murtezayesil @selea yeah, would be great to see one of the other clients add in encryption. On my pinephone, I'm pretty happy with Fractal. Maybe that will be my mobile choice. But yeah, multi-account clients I think is the right way to go. Single-identity computing is unnecessary (and counter to privacy).
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Cr38dUiFnnG82KIa by charims@social.pcwideopen.com
       2021-01-13T20:50:01.774088Z
       
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       @rysiek @murtezayesil @selea at least we have a client for all OS's. Long-term, I'm sure better options will mature.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CsOeDea9oDFRlnuK by slacktoid@mastodon.lol
       2021-01-13T21:04:41Z
       
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       @seleaI agree. Though unless you know why you are doing the device verification, its seems like an unnecessary burden. Cross signing does make things easier now and dumb dumbs need to get their act together, ignorance is never an excuse to do dumb things its what the law says so it can apply here as well  :blobshibesmile: @JohanEmpa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3CxoIVwP3NJEONFZ2 by utzer@social.yl.ms
       2021-01-13T22:04:24Z
       
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       @murtezayesil have a look into Yunohost, it comes with many seevices, one optional is Matrix and Element. @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3D6jR0WIUjJiCQuQa by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T23:45:45Z
       
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       @rysiekElectron is the future. Upterm will replace xterm.@charims @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3D75rVQSPMiGZaDa4 by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T23:49:46Z
       
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       @sheogorathMore and more ROMs come with built-in parallel app feature to run multiple WhatsApps. I don't think it would be an issue. In worst case scenario, you can set up a separate account for work stuff.@charims @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3DrcGprrdyg0PuqvI by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-14T08:31:04Z
       
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       @murtezayesil @sheogorath @charims @selea there is also an app called shelter for ROMs that doesn't have that. available at f-droid
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E6J6O7ywSjPjG5xo by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-13T22:18:18Z
       
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       @charims @murtezayesil @selea I found matrix a little bit tricky to have it working fine for non technical people. And I had a bad experience of slow messages between 2 different servers.XMPP is not better, but I had an easier/smoothier experience (besides the ugly clients).Any reason why element instead of XMPP or another solution? As far as I know, Element is another company just like Signal.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E6J6cJ8Dny7htQ48 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-14T11:15:20Z
       
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       @brunofontes The BIG difference between elements and signal is that Elements is using matrix, and that means it is federated - anyone can set up their own server and start a conversation with someone on another one. Signal does not work that way.Also, there is other clients that you can use with matrix instead of Element. @charims @murtezayesil
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E6M9E3t7i95F0E0u by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-01-13T21:01:49Z
       
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       @mark I've been following this and other discussions with considerable interest.  I deal with a lot of people who are not technical(*), and I'm hearing many people say that the options based on Matrix or XMPP are simply not fit for non-muggles to use.How would you answer them, and what would you recommend?(*) Really, *really* not technical.CC: @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E6M9Qp7fv3ioyPuC by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-01-13T22:15:24Z
       
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       Hi @ColinTheMathmo Firstly, I'm no great techie!I use #Matrix with Fractal on the laptop and FluffyChat on the phone. I'm a fan of it. I've managed to persuade a group of friends to join. None of them had any problems doing so. And none of them are techie either.Perhaps Matrix's Achilles heel is the server thing...  Some signed up and  stayed with the Matrix server, others changed after a period of time.@selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E7xU4nQeryQ32I9g by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-14T11:33:54Z
       
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       @selea @charims @murtezayesil Yes, I've just installed a xmpp server because I wanted something federated as well. I was in doubt between matrix and xmpp and chose the second one for the reasons I said on last message.But I didn't know any other clients besides element for matrix. Thanks for letting me know! :)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3E8Tt3s4QqHAx3Q8G by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-14T11:39:47Z
       
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       @brunofontes You have a list of some of clients here:https://matrix.org/clients/They also provide SDK's, so if you know how to code you could build your own client too.@charims @murtezayesil
       
 (DIR) Post #A3EALKRl5DVvPaH3VQ by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-14T12:00:54Z
       
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       I am trying @yunohost which has XMPP and email servers out of the box. Hosting Matrix is a breeze too. YunoHost is running in a VM with single CPU core and 2GB RAM. I experienced no issues so far. That being said, I need more testing with more users and services to make a better conclusion.My temporary XMPP and matrix profiles are:`alimurteza@yesil.biz``@alimurteza:yesil.biz` respectively.@selea @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3EEbQTgpKCeZD6nnU by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-14T12:48:23Z
       
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       @selea @charims @murtezayesil Thanks! I will surely take a look that the client and the SDK. :)Is Matrix better than XMPP or they are equivalent? My tests were very superficial.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3EMEguqLOQUWNTnoO by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-14T12:46:40Z
       
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       @brunofontesone reason I prefer XMPP to matrix is that its truly decentralized. matrix could be, but afaik most people just sign up on the biggest instances which makes it kind of centralized.I've never hosted matrix myself but it seems its a little bit to heavy on hardware resources and not the easiest to set up. XMPP uses almost nothing hardware wise and is very easy to set up. im glad that matrix exists tho@charims @murtezayesil @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3EMEiBXcnNSSSIeTg by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-14T14:13:41Z
       
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       @dsv Matrix is "truly" decentralized too. There is some very large xmpp servers too where tens of thousands of people use but I wont call xmpp "centralized" because of that. Matrix uses HTTP to communicate with other server while xmpp dont. And that alone has its pros and cons@brunofontes @charims @murtezayesil
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G4MXAR3xeLkEHals by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T10:03:05Z
       
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       @selea well I dont have any numbers but this is what my experience says, at least a year ago, but things might have changed. most people are on the same instance. I just think thats wrong and not how its supposed to be. I dont blame matrix on that (except for the fact that it should be easier to host it), its for the most part lazy users@brunofontes @charims @murtezayesil
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G6uCWOWuLhT0jebo by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-15T10:31:47Z
       
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       @dsvYunoHost made hosting as simple as few click. It runs great on a VM with single CPU and 1GB RAM. Only limitation is that, Instances hosted this way don't allow sign ups from outside by default. Admin must setup accounts in webadmin portal.@selea @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G7lFsQmjF5DnLC5I by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T10:41:23Z
       
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       @murtezayesil I've tried yunohost and I think its great for easy hosting of various services. the things I wanted to host was very out of date tho, so I guess those projects wasnt actively maintained. but even tho I think projects like yunohost are great, I think projects like matrix would gain a lot to be easier to host itself. I've never hosted matrix but I've heard it swallows a lot of reasources@selea @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G7rv8gHodcvn7VFg by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T10:42:33Z
       
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       @murtezayesil with that small amount of resources, how does it handle bigger rooms? with hundreds or thousands of people in it?@selea @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G7zKYQBwxRmXh2bA by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T10:43:39Z
       
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       @dsv matrix-synapse is much easier on the resources since 1.21 actually. So I would not be to worried about that.@murtezayesil @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3G83NgaURd6eYRbfs by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T10:44:25Z
       
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       @selea nice, im happy to hear that :)@murtezayesil @brunofontes @charims
       
 (DIR) Post #A3GVz88eka7QAx4y7E by charims@social.pcwideopen.com
       2021-01-15T15:12:50.577037Z
       
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       @selea @dsv @murtezayesil @brunofontes  I hear dendrite is much lighter than synapse as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Gox4Zov8VNg8W8ci by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-15T17:48:56Z
       
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       @charims That gave me hope to try a Matrix server as well. How lightweight a PostgreSQL can be?  I've already have a MySQL running there and a few other services.@murtezayesil @dsv @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Gox4tfjKNufhnzZA by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-15T18:45:04Z
       
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       @brunofontesRunning pgsql does not need that much resources, but it all comes down to how many servers you är federating with kan the end @charims @murtezayesil @dsv
       
 (DIR) Post #A3GzbZYg9MxYtJvxlg by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-15T20:44:20Z
       
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       @selea Great! I don't actually need to federate with almost anyone. My idea is just to try to move my family from WhatsApp to something else by being "my server". @charims @murtezayesil @dsv
       
 (DIR) Post #A3KxSPIlUZy3CMpdce by mikael@mastodon.online
       2021-01-17T18:39:07Z
       
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       @selea Re: Matrix vs. Signal. The HN discussion was more interesting than the blog post.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25811696
       
 (DIR) Post #A3LBJbCxFpQCsRoBIO by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-17T21:14:26Z
       
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       @selea idk... I mean, Signal isn't too bad when you look past their centralization...That's honestly all I can complain about... if Signal goes down (like it has been in the past few days), everyone on it it in the dark...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Ok7wc1vXBFemawzo by josias@theres.life
       2021-01-19T14:03:50Z
       
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       @ColinTheMathmo I have several non-technical friends who use Matrix/Element. My friends have invited others. It is pretty straightforward to use. The only problem with general UX is choosing homeservers. All my friends are currently on Matrix.org. @mark @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Ok7wsgvaVYUSOFxw by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-19T14:28:43Z
       
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       @josias Same here, even my mother in law who is everything opposite to technical is using Matrix with Element actually.But I do agree that there should be something like "joinmatrix.org" (where you can chose homeservers) up and running. Maybe @jonah who owns the domain can do something about it ;)@ColinTheMathmo @mark
       
 (DIR) Post #A3OkHgRys81oQWXSBk by mark@metalhead.club
       2021-01-19T14:30:20Z
       
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       @selea : " there should be something like "joinmatrix.org" (where you can chose homeservers) " That's a very good idea.@josias @jonah @ColinTheMathmo
       
 (DIR) Post #A3OkeYLz8pmbyYdgi8 by pernia@shitposter.club
       2021-01-19T14:34:54.318758Z
       
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       @m4iler @selea fucking>ess emm essfucking DORK stop using obsolete protocols
       
 (DIR) Post #A3OlpYEi1BEUke2mjg by methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz
       2021-01-19T14:48:05.548364Z
       
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       @SeanGeil @selea ping @nemo here it is, another user with a green profile picture!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Om8fHs1irs7bdXgO by nemo@mas.to
       2021-01-19T14:50:50Z
       
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       @methyltheobromineHehehhe ok thx😂😂😂 well to be frank idk why anyone does that. I like green terminals this is the only reason. But thx again and if you see other ones feel free to show me :D be so kind🙏   @SeanGeil @selea
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T1DaxzJxT4Q56iau by tc@snabelen.no
       2021-01-19T19:35:50Z
       
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       @markLucky you, someone is already on it: https://matrix.to/#/#serverlist:nordgedanken.dev@selea @josias @jonah @ColinTheMathmo
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T1DbMnphJjf2iXGy by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-20T14:43:36Z
       
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       @tc Oh thats nice! Thanks!@mark @josias @jonah @ColinTheMathmo