Post A2tsVjVIAkKu8PIINc by feralfeminist@spinster.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #A2t4thMylMlUl2djgO by Justwanttobreathe@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T14:36:28.796686Z
       
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       I think talking to screenshots of men and getting outraged at men doesn't help to develop female-identification, and without female-identification there's no way to let men go, stop being interested in what they do and stop wanting to communicate with them, which places one in an endless loop of disappointment, suffering and loneliness. You have to get disappointed in men and realize how lonely you are in the male world and how much suffering they cause to start separating yourself from their presence in your life and your head, but most women get stuck in the stages of anger and depression and never make it to acceptance. Peak transing every day just means that the acceptance wasn't genuine and that you still look for proof that you're wrong. It's easy to denounce things that only men are interested in and that harm other women directly and it's way harder to stop loving men themselves. It's hard but the truth is that a bunch of loners can win loner rights like abortion but they can't win actual female liberation because their community must be a template for the society they want to build.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2t4thXc7pGvI1cEG8 by PontiacWitch@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T14:44:49.853791Z
       
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       @Justwanttobreathe Also what is developing female identification. That sounds like some troon bulllshit. I don't need to develop anything. I am a female. I will always be.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2t4thwQdZ7aWzE2wC by Justwanttobreathe@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T14:50:48.480779Z
       
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       @PontiacWitch yeah I'm troon, good job you found me out
       
 (DIR) Post #A2t4tiAFoABFDrh5UG by PontiacWitch@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T14:56:09.724345Z
       
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       @Justwanttobreathe I didn't accuse you lol. I just saying it type of language they use.  😭  was a joke
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsViTTzzIKwVRKvA by Justwanttobreathe@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T15:08:05.586197Z
       
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       @PontiacWitch the concepts of male and female identification existed in feminism before genderism. Being identified with men means adopting male interests and needs, their view on things, men and women and giving them all your resources and being female identified means overwriting all of that, seeing woman as a default human and only sharing emotional, financial etc resources only with each other when possible. When I say that feminists are not female identified it means they're not interested in each other as people and still dedicate all their energy to talks and thoughts about men.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsViqsb00g74O1OC by Robotpuppy@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-01T16:09:14.946591Z
       
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       @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch It's an important point and a key bone of contention/divisiness between straight and lesbian women (which tbh I don't see a realistic way to resolve).I fail at being truly female identifed as men make up some of my family unit and I do consider their welfare along with mine. I am not a separatist, and I don't believe enough women could be persuaded to become fully separatist enough to achieve liberation for all women but I don't (begrudge? not unsupportive?) of women who want to be. Ideally I think we'd work better as a species in societies modelled more after elephant communities (extended female family groupings raising any children and supporting each other, males are more loners when grown. Obviously a human society would be more complicated than this but the basic core idea anyway). Males would benefit from society but wouldn't be the core unit like we have at the moment with nuclear families/household head type ideas. I'm probably not explaining myself very well rn so I'm going to leave off
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVj6Tf0UEtRgThY by ArtistBristol@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T07:46:15.507131Z
       
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       @Robotpuppy @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch Feral cats, Wolves, Killer Wales, live like that. And there is some archeological evidence that Neandertals did as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVjVIAkKu8PIINc by feralfeminist@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T08:02:11.261534Z
       
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       @ArtistBristol @Robotpuppy @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch Even living like the Mosuo traditionally lived would be a massive improvement. Oh sure, your current bae can live with you, but if you get fed up with him you send him back home to his mama.  No more of this "divorce is economically devastating to women and children" bullshit.  I get angry every time I see a man whining about paying child support or alimony.  He has no idea.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVjrGr1uvEZZqdc by Ismat@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T08:13:14.438259Z
       
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       @feralfeminist @ArtistBristol @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch @Robotpuppy My best friend came from a matriarchal tradition in Kerela, India which has mostly disappeared now. An extended family would live together. When a woman was married she would be given a separate room with her husband who would visit from his house. Where he lived with his mom and sisters. If the woman ever got fed up with him she would take the few belongings he kept at her house and put it outside the room and thus they were divorced. Their kids belonged to her family and her daughters would inherit her property. The sons would marry and visit their wives and children but continue living with the mother.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVkAPhrEIBwX8TY by SpiritKrabs@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T16:43:19.087826Z
       
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       @Ismat @feralfeminist @ArtistBristol @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch @Robotpuppy I have a friend who is also from one such Keralite family, and she will get no wealth from her dad’s side because they have retained the practice of passing property down only through the female line. So I think it’s possible for women to try and engineer some of this in their lives, even within patriarchy. For example having one’s own (well-paying) career, and refusing to move for a man, even a husband, would be a first step. And women can make sure they remain much closer to their own parents (geographically) compared to the man’s. They can also make sure they consistently choose their family over his no matter the occasion. And of course maternal culture, heritage, tradition etc. must be much higher priority than paternal at every step. Should women not have birth family that will be there for them then they can make sure to have a strong friend network or extended family network (doesn’t have to be more than a few people, just has to be strong) and use the same principles. Matrilocality in one’s choices is extremely important in mitigating the patriarchal power imbalance inherent in heterosexual relationships.  Women should refuse to be moved, either mentally or physically, for the sake of any man (or they should take their family with them, which I have seen done). I have seen family friends who do this and they are far more successful and stable than the ones who don’t.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVkYAHYEDNbe6Uq by Ismat@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T16:51:03.794785Z
       
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       @SpiritKrabs @ArtistBristol @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch @Robotpuppy @feralfeminist In any case the mother’s family always loves and cares for the mothers kids then the father’s family. Its the norm every where in the world. There are evolutionary reasons for it. The mother’s family is completely sure they are related to the child. The father’s family not so much.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2tsVknlLYhm9ywYoC by ArtistBristol@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-04T17:06:17.063321Z
       
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       @Ismat @SpiritKrabs @Justwanttobreathe @PontiacWitch @Robotpuppy @feralfeminist My father did this - he wrote me and my sibling out of his will, in favour of our cousins - because they were of his actual bloodline, being the children of HIS siblings. I've met other people who said the same thing happened in their family. Technically he was quite correct. You are your mother's family's  children, not your fathers.(Actually,  my mother stood up to him and eventually he had to change it back).