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 (DIR) Post #A2FO4p2pvwlyOGrjMW by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T04:17:20Z
       
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       My girlfriend got angry at me when I pointed out drinking coffee is same as taking drugs.Coffee has a lot of caffeine which has1) No nutritive value2) Acts as stimulant (of course a mild one)3) People repeat it, over time the amount of coffee people take increases to produce the same effect.Just because everyone drinks it doesn't make it something good.#coffee #tea #caffeine
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FOb1cIj784eGoEkq by groff@mastodon.social
       2020-12-16T04:23:08Z
       
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       @redstarfish Lesson: Do drugs.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FRFyoeFEi5k8F0Ma by Ted@landofkittens.social
       2020-12-16T04:53:03.226785Z
       
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       @redstarfish similarly, that doesn't make it necessarily bad, as long as you're not an extreme user.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FRSHdM6e2Ra3pGC0 by urusan@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T04:55:15Z
       
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       @groff @redstarfish Caffeine is one of the four legal recreational drugs:Alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, and sugar.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FRv9EQQLgPv5vcqe by urusan@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T05:00:29Z
       
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       @groff @redstarfish Side note: if one takes a total lack of nutritive value seriously, then alcohol is not a drug either, which doesn't make any sense.Plus, fructose is treated almost exactly like alcohol by the body's filtration systems.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FSDtS5Jh38TxFwSu by groff@mastodon.social
       2020-12-16T05:03:52Z
       
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       @urusan @redstarfish In what jurisdiction? I have access to a canabis store and others can get legal shrooms.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FScqdwtcjx0jhlEe by urusan@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T05:08:23Z
       
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       @groff @redstarfish US in general (still schedule 1 as ridiculous as that is), though that may change soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FT7ddFK1TLdN3efw by groff@mastodon.social
       2020-12-16T05:13:56Z
       
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       @urusan @redstarfish It is absurd, but fortunately the DEA and Justice Dept have chosen not to intervene where states have legalized. The only reason canabis was made sched. 1 is bigotry and religious fanaticism.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FZ2Dz3qxVCMg407E by alex@friends.deko.cloud
       2020-12-16T06:17:15Z
       
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       Coffee can be seen as stimulant but not necessarily as addictive drug. That depends on how much you drink it. Just one cup every morning isn't likely to form addiction.People who make themselves coffee dependent are different tho.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FZ7uKVq5oV98o6QC by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
       2020-12-16T06:21:06Z
       
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       @redstarfishAgree #caffeine is a drug and that too many people have way too much.#Nestle and likely other big brands of coffee have also been known to have dangerously high levels of #glyphosate, which sources have said is to speed the drying of the product. So most coffee today is probably considered #carcinogenic too.But we know people who are extremely moderate in there intake one a day, and they go days without it. They don't need increasingly more.Many who abuse…1/3
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FaqTtj3kkE9d615c by look@birds.garden
       2020-12-16T06:40:29.583475Z
       
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       @redstarfish people also go through caffeine withdrawals. Caffeine is obviously a drug (going by medical definition) but what I find concerning is your implication that drugs are inherently "not good." Drugs are not inherently good or bad; and, it's not simple to always evaluate the relationship that someone has with a drug. I use drugs all the time but I have a healthy relationship with the substances I use.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FhKmOdRjZLwHNt5M by fatboy@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T07:53:05Z
       
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       @redstarfish Caffeine and Sugar are both drugs
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FjXgT306WHDwjGOO by Fabyk@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T08:17:26Z
       
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       @redstarfish and also important: unlike herb tea or malt coffee production and transportation is deeply rooted in exploitation of labor and nature of poorer countries.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FjlwtWioxSE3utOa by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T08:20:15Z
       
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       @redstarfish This is why I think that weed and other non-harmful drug should be legal.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2Fjswub3XgmJ3ksJk by Lofenyy@mastodon.technology
       2020-12-16T08:21:39Z
       
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       @redstarfish You're forgetting that coffee is rich in the single most important essential nutrient -- water! Also, probably has some amount of some micro-nutrients as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FlSPSX0essvy6I3E by fatboy@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T08:39:17Z
       
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       @selea @redstarfish Weed has harmful sides effects if managed incorrectly.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FnXLqi3i7T5stTaC by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T09:02:34Z
       
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       @fatboy So does alcohol.@redstarfish
       
 (DIR) Post #A2FozntnSolS9RT7yq by gabriel@toot.cafe
       2020-12-16T09:18:55Z
       
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       @redstarfish But the HIT d u d e
       
 (DIR) Post #A2Fp2PLhCFkCsalBJo by gabriel@toot.cafe
       2020-12-16T09:19:29Z
       
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       @redstarfish But when it HITS d u d e
       
 (DIR) Post #A2G52SC8DNTcyKKXDs by manuelcaeiro@mastodon.social
       2020-12-16T12:18:40Z
       
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       @redstarfish Medical and pharmaceutical studies have concluded that moderate consumption of coffee (2 expressos/day or equivalent) can prevent some heart diseases.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2G5JKCJCX8L5mSRii by fatboy@fosstodon.org
       2020-12-16T12:21:45Z
       
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       @selea @redstarfish Indeed. The point is that all compounds have ups and downs
       
 (DIR) Post #A2G5RiwN5ixE9E0ZiC by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T12:23:16Z
       
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       @redstarfish not only coffee, chocolate is the same
       
 (DIR) Post #A2G8sb6ectCTX2K956 by sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.de
       2020-12-16T12:59:39Z
       
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       @fatboy @selea @redstarfish Yeah, but coffe has clearly more ups... SCNR.
       
 (DIR) Post #A2GBr4BjpRvr0lfCMK by StampedingLonghorn@social.linux.pizza
       2020-12-16T13:35:03Z
       
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       @redstarfish #Chocolate and soda also contains caffeine and sugar. The latter is even more addictive than cocaine. Point is there are a lot of drugs and addictive substances we consume, and they are able to be consumed in moderation.A Saturday night toke is no more harmful than someone getting diabetes from eating too many donuts.