Post A1ppaMUc5A33JwGvGy by mrufrufin@post.lurk.org
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(DIR) Post #A1dvGuu4hc8E50m0yO by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-11-28T02:30:17Z
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Edwin Barker became Principal Bassist of the Boston Symphony Orchestra in 1976 right after conservatory, and has held that post ever since. That's just *crazy* to me. I can't imagine musically doing the same exact thing for 40+ years based on a decision made in my early 20s.
(DIR) Post #A1dvXEu46xR8k2YISW by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-11-28T02:33:15Z
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And an *orchestra* of all things. Can you imagine joining an orchestra in 1976, only to have it become the dying* thing it is now in 2020? Oof.*said with as much love and respect as possible
(DIR) Post #A1dvahgLZLDErkmsQS by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-11-28T02:33:55.180454Z
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@paul speaking of decisions how to we get tytel to decide to release the source for vital :ablobcatbongo: or does quinn have to go back in to synthesizer development aaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
(DIR) Post #A1dvotK75EJB1d9Xwe by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-11-28T02:36:27Z
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@icedquinn just build it
(DIR) Post #A1dvwDk1ZInGNSleMa by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-11-28T02:37:48.888597Z
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@paul actually mine was an FM synth. it's more like uuh. FM8 than Serum.amusingly i only added the wavetable because it was the easy way to optimize cosines. but i guess all you do is throw another interpolation algorithm in the mix and you have a wavetable synthesizer :blobcatgoogly:
(DIR) Post #A1dwvqJukPHNgywFea by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-11-28T02:48:54Z
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@icedquinn most commercial synths tend to be like 30% DSP, 40% eye candy, 20% preset curation, 10% optimization. A pretty GUI always makes things sound better.
(DIR) Post #A1dyZ90xHDAqv3NIci by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-11-28T03:07:15.602820Z
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@paul i'm sure i could pull the interpolation algorithm from my ass (hell, i even gave him one) but uh. Braindead when it comes to the FX rack.I could do some really bog standard delay/chorus stuff. And some bog standard biquad filters. But supposedly Vital does some fancier shit than that, and it's not a skillset I'm native to.
(DIR) Post #A1e051gKAuPLOjUW7k by amerika@freespeechextremist.com
2020-11-28T03:24:13.963242Z
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@paul There's a shitload of diversity in classical music, and you can only improve in interpretation. He's not doing the same thing he was in his early 20s.
(DIR) Post #A1e1N0NJs4kyVpjrU0 by EmmaFaber@glindr.org
2020-11-28T03:38:33Z
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@paul Who said it is dying?
(DIR) Post #A1fDkOCspCkbh3jZuy by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-11-28T17:32:01Z
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@icedquinn you can a lot of bang for your buck with standard biquad filters and delays. if you know how to use them. you might actually find yourself making better music than you ever could with Vital if you stuck with them.There's always FAUST too. The standard library has an embarrassment of DSP riches there.The key is granularity and control. You're making all the design decisions instead of someone else. If you make enough decisions, eventually really interesting things will happen.
(DIR) Post #A1fFKNsPd6d334t1ZQ by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-11-28T17:49:46.837220Z
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@paul it helps when the person making it actually cares / has a passion for it and isn't just going it out of utilitarian purposes :blobcatgoogly:
(DIR) Post #A1lfHS9Z2J95CTvp3o by mrufrufin@post.lurk.org
2020-12-01T20:08:45Z
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@paul I went through school as a percussionist and orchestras weren't really my thing and with all that organization/money/infrastructure needed to run them they're bound to not be the most progressive institutions but also hey I guess if you can find that sort of comparative career stability in music good for you but also being out of school I feel kinda distant more than ever from the whole classical sorta game even the "new music" scene I was in but who knows mb it will suck me back in someday somehow
(DIR) Post #A1lnxM40rmgw6rpIY4 by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-12-01T21:46:00Z
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@mrufrufin As a proficient amateur orchestral bassist, as well as a huge admirer of classical orchestral music, I've always resented the fact that many great Orchestras (and other chamber music ensembles) are locked away behind this pretentious culture. It's a relic of an older era that doesn't exist, and it's really off-putting for younger generations. To the point where 50 is "young blood" for the BSO audience.However, I also resent the orchestras who have to resort to tacky cheesy thrills to bring in a larger audience. I think these sorts of ensembles deserve more dignity.I wish my area had more of a middle ground. Really good musicians who don't take themselves too seriously, performing music by serious composers they have a deep respect for. Performed in a nice sounding hall with a casual atmosphere that doesn't give the audience imposter syndrome.
(DIR) Post #A1ppaMUc5A33JwGvGy by mrufrufin@post.lurk.org
2020-12-03T20:23:04Z
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@paul i think it's a consequence of what it means to study music, which is focuses on the western art music classical canon and there's this culture and sort of player that has developed around that where,... i've gone through school with people who don't really do anything 'outside of the page' (improvise/compose) and also a huge overlap of people who just don't really listen to anything outside of classical and don't even touch "new music"... and i mean they're great at what they do, but it's like this self-reinforcing culture where the idea of music is hyperfocused and people who go through school get orchestra job or teaching job and perpetuate this, and with how huge the orchestra is in terms of size and visibility, the orchestra can't help but be the public face of classical music that everybody knows about... the further away i am from going to school the more i think getting percussion degrees just wasn't the right path for me,... i think the situation might be getting better? and there are ppl who are able to look beyond this focus but institutional change is slow...i've def witnessed those concerts with this weird mashup of like.. pop persona but classical musician? and i mean, i love pop things, i tend to write pretty poppy in my own way with my live coding,... but the mashup doesn't really work imho
(DIR) Post #A1ptaNBTuYUNHWaGoa by paul@post.lurk.org
2020-12-03T21:07:55Z
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@mrufrufin music conservatories are weird for many reasons, but the narrow curriculum is definitely weird. It definitely stunts people who aren't good at thinking for themselves (and *of course* young classical musicians are trained to think for themselves right?)There's this morbid saying "Scientific progress happens one funeral at a time." I think it can be applied to these classical music institutions. Orchestras like the BSO have appointment-for-life positions for principal musicians, and it's fair to say most musicians stay there forever. Prior to that, the BSO was a family tradition. If your father was a trumpet player in the BSO, his son (no girls yet) would inherit that position. The people who would know how to connect with younger audiences are well, younger, and doing things like conducting at the community and semi-pro level.