Post A0KclcbdwclpA9f52e by shahaan@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #A0KW2agFerH2QyxfVo by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2020-10-19T19:55:56.918066Z
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Imagine being ignorant enough to think that kneecapping a search feature unilaterally across the whole fediverse so that people can only parse tagged content is akin to good security and therefore user safety.
(DIR) Post #A0KWI1uWhOKDEO057w by allison@blob.cat
2020-10-19T19:58:47.452155Z
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@sean To say nothing of the *absurdly* poor discoverability even for a users own posts over any given period of time. There's a lot I'd like to get off here and somewhere more permanent, but the lack of a good search feature seriously hampers that
(DIR) Post #A0KWZOaDel12THmZV2 by normandy@biribiri.dev
2020-10-19T20:01:56.169908Z
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@sean you talking about Mastodon search?
(DIR) Post #A0KXIlXJAF7egr3T0K by Lofenyy@mastodon.technology
2020-10-19T20:09:18Z
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@xj9 @allison @sean We don't want an old crusty archive though, we want a search feature for existing content. Some things aren't meant to stick around in an archive.
(DIR) Post #A0KXQ9HBIYMGLT23SC by shahaan@mastodon.social
2020-10-19T20:07:30Z
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@sean oof firing that heavy artillery. What’s it in reference/response to?
(DIR) Post #A0KXQAdYErqWZ8VQxc by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2020-10-19T20:11:25.763078Z
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@shahaan eh, passively seeing someone grumble about Pleroma's search ability and why it's A Bad Thing.Full-text search > hashtags, 100% of the time.
(DIR) Post #A0KXrccgIORtBJBltw by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2020-10-19T20:16:25.539798Z
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@normandy kinda. Just grumbling about other people grumbling. It shouldn't matter, but some people have the mentality that having the ability to search for any public data your instance can catch is automatically horrible.I can understand people's pushback in the past about Archive Team packaging up statuses from LGBT youth spaces. That's fucked. But, I see no problem with parsing whatever public statuses pass through my system based on what words they contain.In my eyes, those two things are different.
(DIR) Post #A0KYROaZx0fE55GPYm by normandy@biribiri.dev
2020-10-19T20:22:54.378693Z
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@sean Yeah, I don't see what's the problem with making public status indexable. I pretty much assume anything that's publicly visible will probably be archived by someone.
(DIR) Post #A0KclcbdwclpA9f52e by shahaan@mastodon.social
2020-10-19T20:37:12Z
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@sean hmm... i can see that easily turning into a war of opinions. From a technical pov, I think full-text search would consume significantly higher resources? That would be one of my main concerns 🤷🏻♂️
(DIR) Post #A0KclhGub89rdJ05vE by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2020-10-19T21:11:18.155818Z
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@shahaan you'd think so, but in fact it runs pretty smoothly in Pleroma. I am not a systems architect, but I think it might in some cases be quicker to match a string fragment against a table of post bodies than to search for all known posts belonging to a specific tag index.
(DIR) Post #A0KcpUO8RMZKplBgJ6 by realcaseyrollins@counter.fedi.live
2020-10-19T21:12:05.654108Z
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@sean LOL who did this?
(DIR) Post #A0KiIzDHPdpibWzjDk by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-10-19T22:13:25.776381Z
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@shahaan @sean full text search in Postgres has been blazing fast for about 8 years now. It's missing some advanced functionality but it's not always needed. Our biggest issue currently has to do with a limitation in weighting/ranking of fields but it's a solvable problem. We'll throw more resources that direction when we need it.https://wiki.postgresql.org/images/2/25/Full-text_search_in_PostgreSQL_in_milliseconds-extended-version.pdfhttp://rachbelaid.com/postgres-full-text-search-is-good-enough/