Post 9zPbKgO0DImnNMniCm by thor@pl.thj.no
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(DIR) Post #9zPaMsoirmvmYSmh3Q by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:45:56.433628Z
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sometimes i look at the list of stuff i want less of in my feed and my notices...- political arguments- technical arguments- unsolicited advice- anime girls...and i wonder why i'm on here at all.
(DIR) Post #9zPacoBtpmvcqADdi4 by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T08:47:16Z
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@thor What's left then? You probably wonder because there is not so much ...
(DIR) Post #9zPacoSYpqFvfq0wgC by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:48:48.974713Z
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@ybaumy yes, that's my point, it's largely just a few people who are talk about irl stuff but in an intelligent way
(DIR) Post #9zPadBHLzfxQRjwou8 by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:48:54.499006Z
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@ybaumy *who talk about
(DIR) Post #9zPakj5UgyY3KTzxOS by whiteout@expired.mentality.rip
2020-09-22T08:50:15.736102Z
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@thor I wonder what were you looking for
(DIR) Post #9zPalkdiPKM6QrUfyq by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:50:27.187592Z
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@ybaumy i'm ostensibly here because i didn't get much engagement on twitter and facebook is full of my family.
(DIR) Post #9zPaoiNRHAfKHfIH9k by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:50:59.481843Z
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@whiteout @yb_ebooks i'm ostensibly here because i didn't get much engagement on twitter and facebook is full of my family.
(DIR) Post #9zPaxW22XnyKbPTtbc by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:52:33.580657Z
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@whiteout @yb_ebooks also maybe make some friends, i don't know, i haven't had much else to do since my crash and burn last year.
(DIR) Post #9zPb3OX9Kr8h5IpsdE by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T08:53:18Z
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@thor I guess you could also talk about since science, math or philosophy and find people here.I am here because I was dead tired from the brain-dead arguments on other platforms and of course that I can have also real private conversations if I want to. That is hardly possible on big social networks, who make money out of it.
(DIR) Post #9zPb9foI0yzEP6qYr2 by whiteout@expired.mentality.rip
2020-09-22T08:54:47.139718Z
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@thor fedi seems to be something else rather than replacement of social networks for normal people. It is more of an assembly of the people who were rejected by it or decided to reject it themselves.
(DIR) Post #9zPbAtpJO4xiAHuS00 by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:54:58.616071Z
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@ybaumy i sometimes do talk about those things and also tech, and i touch upon political subjects, but not in a very detailed way most of the time... which doesn't prevent other people from getting very detailed and nitty gritty in response due to their obsessions and pet peeves about those subjects.
(DIR) Post #9zPbDkqVEa5LBEpOvg by whiteout@expired.mentality.rip
2020-09-22T08:55:31.350738Z
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@thor so maybe you are looking in the wrong spot after all.Unless you are going to be the one who makes the fedi something that you like.
(DIR) Post #9zPbGME9Dpf7hC83dY by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:55:58.906584Z
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@whiteout well, i've always existed in a kind of quantum state between complete nerd and somewhat uncool normie...
(DIR) Post #9zPbKgO0DImnNMniCm by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:56:45.845154Z
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@whiteout i've never been hip and i can be shy around strangers, but at the same time, i'm not bad at small talk
(DIR) Post #9zPbPXmXdCGQ8db3k8 by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:57:38.744703Z
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@whiteout i'm also in a quantum state between nerd and artist, so sometimes, my definition of normie is rather fluid and changes depending on context.
(DIR) Post #9zPbUNI642AL35eywK by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T08:57:33Z
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@thor If you are not prepared to talk about politics than better do not touch the subject at all, which is really hard because politics is pretty much everything, even if you are talking about tech for example. Safest way is to only post cat and dog pics^^
(DIR) Post #9zPbUNTRNrEvcGy2ca by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T08:58:30.318073Z
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@ybaumy you can't talk about the weather without it being political, as i sarcastically remarked earlier. but i want to talk still. what i do when people start arguing like that is, if i manage to remember to, i mute that thread.
(DIR) Post #9zPbcnepuuWD8mJVr6 by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:00:01.527729Z
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@whiteout i have been on fedi for a few years, and it's more interesting than every other social medium i've tried, so everything is relative.
(DIR) Post #9zPbitDGAx3q6iJpLs by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:01:08.043490Z
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@whiteout interesting but fundamentally dissatisfying in some respects because the level of engagement you often get is rather superficial. it's not an ideal place for making friends, because there is no shared activity to bond over.
(DIR) Post #9zPbnjQlyM7nDUwr44 by whiteout@expired.mentality.rip
2020-09-22T09:02:01.494928Z
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@thor so something changed when you switched over to pleroma :akko_giggle:
(DIR) Post #9zPboWts2xW0dvwHiq by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:02:09.586307Z
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@whiteout in every case where i've made friends online in the past, there has been a centre of gravity, some activity people gather to participate in, and direct interactions naturally result from this.
(DIR) Post #9zPbqLMRv4vLR0Agoi by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:02:29.118222Z
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@whiteout what do you mean?
(DIR) Post #9zPbxAfC5kG0HdC8GG by whiteout@expired.mentality.rip
2020-09-22T09:03:43.351301Z
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@thor the amount of the content you regulary see as displeasing. Did it increase?
(DIR) Post #9zPc89txGThd6cL2Jc by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:05:41.273353Z
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@whiteout uh, to some extent. the replies can be more juvenile or rude, but people who love to get into arguments seem to exist all over fedi.
(DIR) Post #9zPc9jXKGBpbuoVLeK by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T09:05:37Z
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@thor There will be always people who do not agree with you and that is fine and it has to be like that. Thing is .. radical dogmatic people. That goes in every direction and makes analyzing situations really hard and discussions unbearable.
(DIR) Post #9zPcjEAON0HZ33hbyi by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:12:23.084287Z
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@ybaumy well, yes, disagreeing is a thing, but when i look at myself, the general trend has been that i've become less and less interested in convincing others of my opinion with age, and also, less and less interested in defending these opinions when they are attacked. i think young adults especially *love* to get into such arguments, plus older people who have some kind of obsession with it.
(DIR) Post #9zPcr0y1KUNOQYd3Fg by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:13:48.495565Z
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@ybaumy in most cases where i accidentally end up in such arguments, they have this mountain of information they've gathered that they want to throw my way, and i'm just not interested.
(DIR) Post #9zPcvuuJHs2X55ENfs by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:14:41.847221Z
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@ybaumy also, it doesn't take long before someone will reveal a lack of tact, and get rude.
(DIR) Post #9zPd27U3ROnXp8uLhY by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:15:49.051403Z
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@ybaumy i've been getting better at detecting the exact moment when a thread crosses the threshold from "stimulating" to "stressful" and that's when i mute it.
(DIR) Post #9zPdFS93vwOZfWRlIW by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T09:16:43Z
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@thor Convincing pretty much never works and is also a really problematic situation, since it may involve manipulating somebody in thinking your way and agreeing with your positions. That touches the boundaries of individual freedom and personal development and is like I said a narrow path to walk on.Wisdom and experience comes not from other peoples convictions, but is founded on direct action and knowledge.
(DIR) Post #9zPdFSQms2ZcYUjuvQ by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:18:12.181397Z
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@ybaumy yeah i mean i've realised long ago that people don't have opinions due to pure logic, since the most insane things can be argued based on logic alone. people have opinions because they care, and caring is fundamentally about emotion, about what you feel about stuff. emotions have their own logic, but as you point out, they're based more on what you've seen and experienced than cold dry facts.
(DIR) Post #9zPdGLS6IrIvCUmF6m by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T09:17:46Z
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@thor That lack of tact is use of force and violating other peoples freedom of choice.
(DIR) Post #9zPfFSGJhMGzwKy6y0 by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-09-22T09:26:17Z
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@thor Acceptance plays also a role in that. Education and upbringing of children which should foster individuality and freedom may not bring the desired "results", which can be seen in many families. When arguing with someone you can accept that he is how he is and maybe choose not to talk to him because that is your own personal freedom of choice.
(DIR) Post #9zPfI6emU1Hvnhfxrs by thor@pl.thj.no
2020-09-22T09:41:06.971763Z
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@ybaumy i don't think we disagree