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(DIR) Post #9zGypiy9D1J5QcH3RI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-09-18T05:07:22Z
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Finally got around to doing some more work on the fediverse article on Wikipedia. I wish people would stop adding references to XMPP and matrix there. This is at least the second time someone has had to remove them. If devs want their federated apps included there, they need to do the work to federate with the existing fediverse, not just declare themselves to be part of it "coz federated". Email is federated too, but nobody goes around trying to claim it's part of the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #9zGyyxsd8iMOHR6EtM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-09-18T05:08:16Z
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We really need to come up with a less geeky word than "instance" to describe ... well ... instances. Also another word to describe accounts. On the Wikipedia page for the fediverse someone has tried out "identities", but it feels a bit clunky. I don't think it will take.
(DIR) Post #9zGz5lgqrNgQV6pn7Y by a_breakin_glass@cybre.space
2020-09-18T05:09:12Z
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@strypey diaspora's there, though
(DIR) Post #9zH34nBYDP92fHz3j6 by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-09-18T05:55:13Z
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@strypey a less geeky word? Fedi is targeted at computer geeks. There is really no reason why a normie would care if their social network is federated or centralised.
(DIR) Post #9zH3YFvmQ16KDRelIO by nilesh@fosstodon.org
2020-09-18T06:00:16Z
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@strypey What's wrong with calling it a "server"? It's good enough for Discord.
(DIR) Post #9zH4VEvBocYQAcVQau by SuperFloppies@mastodon.technology
2020-09-18T06:10:55Z
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@strypey There needs to be a single notion of what an "identity" is, in the context of the Internet (I specifically did not say "web"). Kerberos offers part of the solution already. I was actually thinking about something similar, but for a different set of services.Could elaborate on those thoughts later, I suppose.
(DIR) Post #9zH4vou6eittIUfpho by tfardet@scicomm.xyz
2020-09-18T06:15:42Z
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@strypeyI think I saw somebody proposing "community" in a similar conversation, if I remember correctly this is even how it's written on the Mastodon startpages now...
(DIR) Post #9zHFVdj0hB4yapCc4W by danielhglus@mastodon.technology
2020-09-18T08:14:15Z
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@strypey I usually use "server", as that's caught on with kids these days to describe Discord servers
(DIR) Post #9zMBCINyNlpYLBFObI by byron@ruby.social
2020-09-20T17:19:44Z
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@strypey Totally agree re instances. Actually, server and account might sound geeky but at least they're words non-geeks are used to hearing.They might not know what a server is but they've heard it's some kind of internet computer thing.Account is fine. People have bank accounts etc.We could try out other words for server, but they can sound a bit cheesy and vague: club, community, house... Idk.
(DIR) Post #9zMBX5jUcXwhBCEHbM by byron@ruby.social
2020-09-20T17:23:31Z
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@0x00 @strypey No that's a false assumption. A ton of computer n00bs care a lot about things like corporate surveillance, monopolies, etc. Besides, tons of geeks don't give a crap and happily endorse all the big tech companies.Besides, people go where people go. The value in a social network is largely in its size.
(DIR) Post #9zMC4zBTTVhoiOTnPM by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-09-20T17:29:37Z
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@byron @strypey the Fediverse isn’t significantly more private. In fact, if anything, I’d say it’s even less private. I don’t need API permissions to roll out a new instance and spider and index every single message since the beginning of time. On Twitter, it would be ratelimited and shut down quickly.And yes, I agree. Fedi is worhtless because it has very few people.