Post 9vp8oTLPI26EhmEIGe by kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city
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 (DIR) Post #9vkNXEFSgq5gU8svCa by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T17:54:41Z
       
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       Looking for a list of ethical organizing and communication tools that are hosted by folks who can be trusted. Everyone is using google and facebook here at the protest and it worries me. #infosec #nola #blacklivesmatter
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkNqd2GkvL6raxs9o by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T17:56:12Z
       
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       Been recommending Cryptpad and Disroot and Riseup. Trying to at least get everyone on Signal but would like to figure out a backup too. Needs text and voice.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkPJlMUygeV2Tso6a by WaysideLiege@switter.at
       2020-06-04T18:11:16Z
       
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       @liaizon Signal is great as well as Line navier. Firefox has a lot of great tools and Tor proxies.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkUdXROwdEHQVQQMa by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T19:21:52Z
       
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       @WaysideLiege Line is a venture backed corporation why would you trust them?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkYURucWxdJUR0uKO by WaysideLiege@switter.at
       2020-06-04T20:04:46Z
       
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       @liaizon 2 simple reasons. End to end encrypted comms, and it's never been hacked to my knowledge. Open source is just as vulnerable as venture backed in all verisimilitude. Glad I posted something you strongly disagree with. Feel free to disregard what I say as childish badinage and persiflage.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkbMN8sgIT2F3WYXg by KnowPresent@mastodon.social
       2020-06-04T20:37:00Z
       
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       @liaizon I don't have a smart phone so I can't give any reviews but Tox, Briar and Jami might work for some of these cases.https://briarproject.org/https://tox.chat/https://jami.net/
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkbrx6R1xv6kTRFZI by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T20:42:57Z
       
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       @KnowPresent Briar and Tox is 100% out cause no iOS support. Need to test Jami and see how it works. Most of the population I know here only has iPhones...
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkcGO54NY0xMxS3H6 by KnowPresent@mastodon.social
       2020-06-04T20:47:11Z
       
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       @liaizon Y'all are some bourgey rebels. Haha! Well, I can say that Jami works well on a friend's iPhone 4, even with video, talking to my linux machine. Messaging was also quite ok, including image attachments.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkcZiPj0MMpvwKSnI by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T20:50:52Z
       
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       @KnowPresent just installed it on my android. You have it open wanna do a test?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkcmm1ctCNWtlHegi by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T20:52:41Z
       
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       @KnowPresent Honestly its fucked up and elitist to give people shit about using iPhones. I would say most poor black folks I see are also on iphones here cause they use them as their only computer.I finally got out of apples ecosystem this year and I an trying to help others do the same but giving people shit about it doesn't help
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkiU3XAASz5QJUcF6 by KnowPresent@mastodon.social
       2020-06-04T21:56:53Z
       
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       @liaizon I don't see how it's elitist. The poor students, working class folks and homeless guys I interact with here are all on cheap android phones. Lidl sells them for <80€ and you can use them with prepaid plans. A new iPhone is over 1k€! The posh people I know and those in elite cultural circles have, almost every single one, iPhones. It's a status symbol and shows group you're part of the group. Maybe in NOLA the economics are different?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkjnfqc2h6bhvVb3w by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T22:11:37Z
       
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       @KnowPresent you can get a used iphone here for $50. most people use an iPhone 5. If you walk into a used phone store here its like a wall of iPhones with a few Android
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkkbiIBEAJLliGPhI by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T22:20:29Z
       
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       @neauoire stuff needs to be accessable to non tech folks. People here are not used to much other then Instagram
       
 (DIR) Post #9vknWoyxE80Wvod7Cq by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-04T22:53:19Z
       
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       @neauoire @kawaiipunk love you Devin but you are out of touch with the reality of trying to work with a group of random people who are technically uncomfortable. Say a single thing you just said you any of them and they would look at you like you were speaking a foreign language. With someone to hand hold and a lot of time maybe but we are at a situation here that that's just not realistic at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vkytUK9IZCV19YRIO by ptvirgo@mastodon.technology
       2020-06-05T01:00:38Z
       
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       @liaizon If anyone isn't already on signal (signal.org), that is probably a mistake.What other things are you trying to do that are a challenge?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vlW25i3TrGFlrRjWq by ehmry@chaos.social
       2020-06-05T07:11:59Z
       
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       @liaizon @KnowPresent No, the iphone is 100% out. I'm pretty sure anything GPL licensed is unavailable on the iphone.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vlWGLP9vHP4VFP7o0 by ehmry@chaos.social
       2020-06-05T07:14:18Z
       
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       @liaizon @KnowPresent Iphones are fucked up and elitist. Don't use them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vmugr9j5V7eZ3JvYe by kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city
       2020-06-05T23:22:45Z
       
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       @liaizon @neauoire how about an activist focussed Pixelfed instance?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vp8oTLPI26EhmEIGe by kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city
       2020-06-05T23:23:10Z
       
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       @liaizon @neauoire If it has apps that could be run through Tor?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vp8oTYWVGajMSMliC by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-07T01:09:23Z
       
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       @kawaiipunk @neauoire I should try posting from the mobile apps again and see how it is
       
 (DIR) Post #9vpS126llKyL7y5O2i by wyatwerp@fsmi.social
       2020-06-07T03:11:06.015447Z
       
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       @liaizonBriar, if you only need text and not files/audio/video? It works on Bluetooth or Tor, no servers. People would need to be face-to-face once to scan the code.If the phone runs Google or Apple OS'es, the above may not be enough long-term, if the scare-mongering is to be believed. I'd use the 'Work profile' by installing Shelter, and put all Goo apps under it, keep 'Work profile' off most of the time? Just best-effort..@neauoire @kawaiipunk
       
 (DIR) Post #9vpS12JsyZSpmeDrUG by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2020-06-07T04:43:29Z
       
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       @wyatwerp @neauoire @kawaiipunk needs to be on iOS too cause at least half the folks here are iOS only