Post 9vIfkqPySQMeiY2wts by benofbrown@octodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9vIWRYs6ZRt1D1w1ZY by yarmo@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T07:30:33Z
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Do you really need tracking on your personal website, even privacy friendly like #plausible ?Genuinely curious, I'd like to see those numbers move, but that doesn't warrant user tracking imo
(DIR) Post #9vIX6LBKNHM8ciN4Vc by Matter@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T07:37:53Z
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@yarmo I don't get why people don't do this server-side, why put in some javascript when you can just count stuff on the server?
(DIR) Post #9vIXp1cjw9AWzsV4oC by freddyym@social.privacytools.io
2020-05-22T07:45:59Z
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@yarmo I think its good for motivation, to see if your content actually gets read and could affect people.My write.as blog tells me the amount of views each post gets. I'm not sure what a view counts as, but when a post has over 11 thousand, its a nice feeling.
(DIR) Post #9vIYIGaHOTSBnGIDBI by nicd@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T07:51:17Z
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@yarmo Personally I just love watching the live analytics (made them myself) of my site as people visit. It's very motivating in a way.If it's 1st party and doesn't store any direct identifiers (names, emails, etc.) then I have no issue with it. If it's sold to 3rd parties or tracks me across the web, it's evil.
(DIR) Post #9vIasyjKw98J2lA8eG by rune@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-05-22T08:20:19Z
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@Matter @yarmo I feed a slightly modified nginx log into elasticsearch. It's super simple and automagically logs every website I host including websites I can't add Javascript tracking to like plex.It's weird it isn't just the go to solution. The reason is probably just that web devs are more comfortable adding Javascript because they're not sysadmins.
(DIR) Post #9vIbVqXHKzT2vG3XRg by hugh@ausglam.space
2020-05-22T08:27:09Z
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@yarmo @ben I ran Matomo for a few years and then realised it didn’t really matter to me and removed all the tracking a couple of years ago.
(DIR) Post #9vIeDcWuyJri8Nt82i by allien@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T08:57:42Z
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@yarmo with the privacy-friendly solutions, you're not tracking *users* so much as the general actions (which content is popular etc.) - which is IMO very useful.Why not use it to know what content are your users interested in? And write more of that :)
(DIR) Post #9vIfkqPySQMeiY2wts by benofbrown@octodon.social
2020-05-22T09:14:51Z
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@yarmo Sorry to say I got trapped by the shininess of Google Analytics when it was pretty new and thought it was pretty cool to see all the graphs. I've literally not looked at it for years now, and haven't updated the site for ages either. If I get time over the weekend I'll remove it from the site, then there'll be no cookies or anything at all. Hell, maybe I'll start posting to it or something?
(DIR) Post #9vIhTlVVf6d0TMcTMe by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T09:34:09Z
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@yarmo used to have Jekyll site with tracking on it to see site visits, user engagement but I removed it after some time as It didn't matter to me much. I started using my blog without the worry for hits or engagement better for my sanity.
(DIR) Post #9vIiRYWP4SyfZcY1uy by yarmo@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T09:44:57Z
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@null0x0 I do get the other's point about knowing what works best, but… I just don't care. I write the content. Visits anyway don't reflect how good it is. I think…
(DIR) Post #9vIjZpvYLCwppKp8WO by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T09:57:41Z
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@yarmo yes! Agree. In the future I will implement Activity pub to my blog If I can.
(DIR) Post #9vIlzXYRTNfCHZOkAC by yarmo@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T10:24:43Z
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@null0x0 oh… that's super smart! Your metrics will be likes and shares. I need that on my site!
(DIR) Post #9vIn6FeQXHfUjkxfvc by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T10:37:07Z
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@yarmo yeah! Comments would be the replies to the toots 🤔
(DIR) Post #9vIn6kAN552vNW8bsu by xosem@toot.site
2020-05-22T10:37:15Z
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@yarmo @null0x0 :blobpeek: 🤔 ... like @PlumeDev @writeas_org ?? and there's at least another one I don't remember now. You can install it in your server.Or are talking about some "plugin" to add to your wordpress site, hugo, jekyll,etc?
(DIR) Post #9vInA6PooczbFexsq8 by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T10:37:53Z
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@xosem @yarmo @PlumeDev @writeas_org Plugin to add support for Activity pub on Jekyll
(DIR) Post #9vInFQe51oTrRSAvsu by xosem@toot.site
2020-05-22T10:38:37Z
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@null0x0 that would be great indeed 👍 @yarmo
(DIR) Post #9vInzmnL0fZBSQbuKG by daniels@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T10:47:13Z
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@null0x0 @yarmo I've added my own small piece of code to the server to track visitors. As I still wanna know which blog posts are read. But I don't track anything else beside URL and operating system.Also no JavaScript, as I extract information for each request.
(DIR) Post #9vIonL8U7RoK9c8Amu by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T10:56:11Z
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@daniels @yarmo do you store the IP of the visitors or just the no of visits?
(DIR) Post #9vIqjd1xqQ0YP6RH3Q by jonw@hackers.town
2020-05-22T11:17:53Z
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@Matter The proliferation of proxies, WAFs, edge NAT, etc. makes it hard to get the client IP in a lot of cases. Running a client-side solution like JS eliminates all that mess. Precisely why Google uses it.I am not saying that situation is OK. I am just answering the question.@yarmo
(DIR) Post #9vIy0SwRJAB5iOpY9Y by daniels@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T12:39:25Z
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@null0x0 @yarmo I'm not interested in their IPs. Just added the user agent to extract more info in the future.Right now I'm only storing the URL, agent and extracted operating system, as well as the time.
(DIR) Post #9vIzPCalKgLsCY3B1E by null0x0@fosstodon.org
2020-05-22T12:53:34Z
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@daniels @yarmo oh okay!