Post 9vF2o2znerU0vb1nGq by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
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 (DIR) Post #9vF1n98pDvOHkDFvsm by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T13:59:26Z
       
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       good "never again" praxis is stopping Holocausts before they happen, when the warning signs are clear, as in the present-day U.S..or even stopping things like the Holodomor or Japanese Internment before they happen, that's important as well. the Japanese Internment could have become like the Holocaust; there was nothing in the way that Americans responded to it that would have prevented that from happening here. (1/)
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF1n9bBWU4lAAWa5Q by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T13:59:55Z
       
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       but it's extremely important to know what the Holocaust was, to not be ignorant about this and act like Holocausts are normal everyday things that happen all the time but that "Jewish privilege" means that people only care about the Holocaust, as Nazis and some "leftists" argue.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF1n9rqWXP3zqJt3Y by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:01:45Z
       
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       there's a difference between the praxis of preventing a Holocaust before it happens vs. simple Holocaust erasure that aims to diminish what actually happened under Hitlere.g. Hitler was in power for *less than 10 years* and killed 11 million people through deliberate, systematic, targeted extermination, many many more through war
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF1t0G99vw3w2TPBw by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:02:10Z
       
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       the Holocaust was people being marched to death, people being fed virtually nothing and compelled to work until they died, people being gassed, and their own family members being forced to gas them and carry them to the crematorium to burn them, babies being pulled out of their mother's arms and thrown into fire alive in front of them, and much more
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF1t1J1GjpNBEpDJA by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:03:19Z
       
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       so, that needs to be understoodalso it needs to be understood that the Nazis *literally diverted resources from the war effort JUST to carry out what they viewed as their great project of the extermination of the Jews*
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF24pja7M14laslKy by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:07:43Z
       
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       we need to walk a very careful line between saying "never again means stopping this right now, avoiding the tendencies that could lead to what happened" vs. saying "everything bad is the Holocaust but people only care about the Jews", the latter of which verges on denial and is absolutely minimization
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF24qD0LxYIEqeGCO by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:20:33Z
       
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       and antisemitism it should go without sayingnot to mention if anyone gave a shit about the Jews, the Holocaust wouldn't have ever happened
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF24qV5Gk0v8v6hNY by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:23:37Z
       
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       you're taking a case where 2/3 of all Jews in Europe were exterminated while everyone just went about their days, within a period of less than a decade, at the culimination of centuries of marginalization and hatred of Jews, and saying that people only talk about it because of how powerful and/or cherished the Jews arelike what?!the Holocaust would have killed millions more if Hitler had waited just a bit longer to betray Stalin
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF2H5NXmFy0lKPtVA by clacke@libranet.de
       2020-05-20T15:07:55Z
       
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       @kittybecca I hesitate to name anything the sickest thing to happen in the 30s and 40s, but "shit we might be losing the war, better ramp up exterminating people to get as many as we can while we still have the chance" is waay up there.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF2o2znerU0vb1nGq by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
       2020-05-20T14:24:50Z
       
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       there'd be very few Jews left in the world if Hitler had waited longer to betray Stalin and/or the fascist coup against FDR had succeeded
       
 (DIR) Post #9vF2o3KiP6DHySoUs4 by moonman@shitposter.club
       2020-05-20T15:14:22.507440Z
       
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       @kittybecca >the Japanese Internment could have become like the Holocaustnah, very different scenario.>fascist coup against FDRnever actually existed!