Post 9uudn3qTSYNPS7f960 by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #9uuWA5G3ZfRErR608m by kuleszdl@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T15:38:05Z
       
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       @mntmn I like your MNT Reform project, however, I dislike the comparison with the #pinebookpro because:- there *are* 3D files of the pbp case available ("only" AutoCAD but still...)- specs for the display *are* available, please look in the wiki-  like your machine, the pbp has M.2, sd and eMMC as well- why does the pbp get a "no" for blobl-free boot? Mine boots up fine without blobs- why is the price of the pbp not green?Please be fair, do some basic research and fix these issues.
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA5XQX5KhjJDsDQ by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T15:41:40Z
       
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       @kuleszdl thank you, i wasn't able to find this info before, can you send me links to each of those points? then we'll update it
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA5pVRrnKdNgJOa by kuleszdl@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T15:44:36Z
       
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       @mntmn Sure, just look in the wiki where the spec sheets are linked:https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/Pinebook_ProRegarding the blobs, have a look at Debian's unstable archive where you can see that free firmware is available for booting since a few days:https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/arm64/daily/netboot/SD-card-images/However, unlike your machine it needs a blob to initialize the display, but booting and using it via serial console works blob-free, at least that's my impression from my attempts so far.
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA6IZhn2y5XHWhk by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T15:45:17Z
       
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       @kuleszdl thank you, what kind of blob is needed for display?
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA6uVQlO7zB1opM by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T15:47:42Z
       
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       @kuleszdl one more question that i don't see in the wiki, is the PBP display matte or glossy?
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA8AUknlvt3W6O8 by kuleszdl@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T15:51:43Z
       
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       @mntmn It needs some kind of analogix dp firmware that you can find here:https://gitlab.manjaro.org/tsys/pinebook-firmwareThe display itself is matte as you can read in this lengthier review:http://students.engr.scu.edu/~sschaeck/misc/pinebookpro.html
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA8gkorZnV6brfc by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T16:03:28Z
       
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       @kuleszdl this looks like DDR and some other firmware binaries are needed for boot, can you tell me which one of these are essential? https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rkbin/blob/master/RKBOOT/RK3399MINIALL.ini
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWA99p4mpQxGD4ym by PINE64@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T17:32:54Z
       
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       @mntmn @kuleszdl The DDR4 training blob is the only necessary one, to my knowledge. As you're likely aware, there's really no platform at the moment with FOSS DDR4 training.idbloader is uboot TPL/SPL, and the others aren't used in the PBP boot path.
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuWnGniakdLxEWgL2 by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T17:40:47Z
       
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       @PINE64 @kuleszdl thank you so much for clarifying this, it was really hard for me to find an answer to this.
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuXwUmg4Vi9so0CoK by PINE64@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T17:53:53Z
       
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       @mntmn @kuleszdl Additionally, the "PMU controller" mentioned in some documentation is the Rockchip RK808. It's basically just a handful of DC/DC regulators which can be controlled/programmed in sequence over I2C. There's no real firmware to speak of in regards to it. http://rockchip.fr/RK808%20datasheet%20V1.4.pdf
       
 (DIR) Post #9uudn3qTSYNPS7f960 by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T18:59:12Z
       
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       @PINE64 @mntmn @kuleszdl afaik we don't have training blobs in the mainline uboot for the rk3399
       
 (DIR) Post #9uuftKuf7DwG24k2Ua by mntmn@mastodon.social
       2020-05-10T19:23:10Z
       
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       @martijnbraam @PINE64 @kuleszdl so it works without training or why are those not needed?
       
 (DIR) Post #9uurEBOomU9o6TzQMS by martijnbraam@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-10T21:30:14Z
       
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       @mntmn @PINE64 @kuleszdl I don't know the details, I know that I don't package ddr firmware foro the rk3399 at least and I don't think there are blobs in u-boot master
       
 (DIR) Post #9uyusQRFMivftf0ydk by Baggypants@mastodon.cloud
       2020-05-11T07:36:42Z
       
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       @mntmn@PINE64 @kuleszdlI'm excited to be living in a time where we have TWO organisations working towards open hardware LAPTOPS!