Post 9svlghFGH9HZLh74Fs by ansugeisler@scholar.social
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(DIR) Post #9svixqFHlXnyK7blKa by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:24:50Z
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suddenly realized "The Animated Series" was a conscious effort to up the prestige of a Saturday morning Batman cartoon, similar to "graphic novel"
(DIR) Post #9svixrEc5WrTOKIjvE by skelltan@hellsite.site
2020-03-12T11:25:51Z
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@kittybecca to be fair no one takes cartoons seriously and theres a very low precedent for modern animated masterpiecesthe closest is likeart festival shit and deepest lore cartoons
(DIR) Post #9svixs2b5gqNtLgepc by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:29:15Z
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@skelltan not arguing, just literally didn't understand why it was called that
(DIR) Post #9svixsn2J1zUDNPkDQ by clacke@libranet.de
2020-03-12T11:43:52Z
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@kittybecca @skelltan Star Trek TAS was called TAS decades before then, so the phrase wasn't new.You mean because there was no live action series in near time to contrast with?
(DIR) Post #9svlabgU2QSMMewTCq by skelltan@hellsite.site
2020-03-12T11:29:46Z
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@kittybecca yea im just concurring a reason the distinction makes sense
(DIR) Post #9svlacBgARPTvPXNpY by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:33:26Z
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@skelltan it's interesting though that at the time there was a strong effort to push the idea that comics were art, and subsequently that cartoons were art, and people would point to things like The Killing Joke or The Dark Knight Returns or Year Onebut then at the same time the industry would push out derivative works that drew on these works of art aesthetically but smoothed out their more radical elements and the artists' fierce critiques of the industry and superheroes in general
(DIR) Post #9svlacjM9ELfbrIHK4 by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2020-03-12T11:36:39Z
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@kittybecca @skelltan Also "funny": Grown men feeling so insecure about liking stuff they've literally liked their whole lives, that they have to pretend it's suddenly something else entirely.Less funny: Most of the stuff that was lauded as art was actually proto-fascist drivel by nuclear meltdown-level assholes.
(DIR) Post #9svladFcDI9XDuO2bY by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:40:23Z
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@ansugeisler @skelltan yeah a lot of it was genuinely ultra-macho bullshit that only upped the fascist elements of the stories by infusing them with nihilismalan moore may have been the exception rather than the rule
(DIR) Post #9svlaeT7gYYH05iLIW by skelltan@hellsite.site
2020-03-12T11:41:16Z
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@kittybecca @ansugeisler eh, there's room for seriousness in comics. i'm not the smartest chip on the block but in simple terms, the extraordinary can be grounded in reality. like i said in another post i love both the silly side of comics and the more serious side if its done well. theres room for both. a problem politically with comics though is that superheroes are inherently fascist, or at the very least no better than cops as they all basically follow american law
(DIR) Post #9svlgfeiBYS4Q30Me8 by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2020-03-12T11:43:32Z
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@kittybecca @skelltan Never been very comfortable with the whole Crowley/Rasputin flavor of opaque mysticism that Moore represents to me...Could be I've just seen too many of that kind of thinker burn their way into pro-genocidal nonsense.Always somehow put me off, anyway. Maybe it's just me.
(DIR) Post #9svlgg2SlFRzbi7KfQ by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:45:01Z
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@ansugeisler @skelltan i don't agree with Moore about everything and probably not most things, but to me he represents part of the spectrum of ideas of people worth giving the time of day
(DIR) Post #9svlgghaIMLNfFMAlM by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T11:45:54Z
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@ansugeisler @skelltan and if he starts spouting bullshit then i roll my eyes and say "ok boomer" as i'm reading an interview w/ him or whatever
(DIR) Post #9svlghFGH9HZLh74Fs by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2020-03-12T12:04:40Z
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@kittybecca @skelltan I just know that it wasn't clear to me in Watchmen whether it was supposed to be "Right" to arrange a massive massacre to scare everyone into falling in line (!), or whether one should agree with the disgusting creep with the obvious fash views, who wanted to expose the lie.And of course, the whole thing is disgusting, everybody is dirty, so maybe that's the point, that everybody is wrong.I dunno.
(DIR) Post #9svlgi6n486I1i9ogq by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T12:06:40Z
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@ansugeisler @skelltan I don't think anyone in that story was right, fwiw
(DIR) Post #9svlgiseCCNiQ8Y2Hg by kittybecca@masto.jews.international
2020-03-12T12:10:37Z
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@ansugeisler @skelltan but I also think the way you interpret "everyone is dirty" depends on what you expect of peopleIt can either be a hopeless thought or an acknowledgement of imperfection