Post 9sl93JFIRDJMbk9Biq by carcinopithecus@x0r.be
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(DIR) Post #9sl4eWO22ltGJ79qj2 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2020-03-07T08:28:28Z
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Late-stage capitalism:"Airlines are burning thousands of gallons of jet fuel flying empty 'ghost' planes so they can keep their flight slots during the coronavirus outbreak"https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3
(DIR) Post #9sl4kRRFLzWihMU6Bk by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
2020-03-07T08:30:34Z
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@fribbledomIs that capitalism? I was unaware.
(DIR) Post #9sl4nNntK9mWIITkki by succfemboi@iscute.moe
2020-03-07T08:31:07.314477Z
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@fribbledom Don't they do that all the time, even when there is no pandemic?
(DIR) Post #9sl4uoA7iotC4SQ0Gm by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-03-07T08:32:27Z
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@mister_monster @fribbledom no, it isn't. As usual, this is a result of government intervention enforcing stupid flight rules.
(DIR) Post #9sl93JFIRDJMbk9Biq by carcinopithecus@x0r.be
2020-03-07T08:33:51Z
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@fribbledom heavier-than-air flight was a mistake
(DIR) Post #9slR1dVNwP3s2N1ZcO by zudn@theres.life
2020-03-07T09:01:23Z
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@fribbledom Airlines have strange rules. Flying is often a weird game, getting routed out of the way winds up being cheaper so often.But here's a thought: In the wider view, they're saving their investments and it is "cheaper" for them in the long run to do this. I'm not justifying, but if they didn't think this was more cost effective, they wouldn't spend the money on fuel, pilots, and planes to do this, right?Stranger things have happened, I suppose.
(DIR) Post #9slR1e0a4Q0zb7cUF6 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2020-03-07T09:11:43Z
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@zudn Hence late-stage capitalism. They're not doing this because it makes any logical sense, but because it's a form of investment for them.
(DIR) Post #9slR1eKQsbtWaguLBY by yousei@ap.tiuxo.com
2020-03-07T09:37:22.004611Z
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@fribbledom @zudn It's logical for them to keep their slot, the thing is that once this "exploit" of keeping ones slot becomes big enough of a burden all that wasted capital keeping ghost planes in the air is going to create an incentive to redirect that eg. if they're now paying x$ to keep that slot in costs whatever agency manages those slots could just offer to hold them that slot for x$.
(DIR) Post #9slR1egPYtTXgrBtRY by zudn@theres.life
2020-03-07T11:37:41Z
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@yousei @fribbledom That would be a good option, wouldn't it? Unfortunate that government moves slowly, which is an argument for government involvement.
(DIR) Post #9slR1f83u5ar4c7yXg by yousei@ap.tiuxo.com
2020-03-07T11:57:54.932890Z
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@zudn @fribbledom Private companies can move slowly too, like when you use some buggy app and have to use some hacky exploit to make it work it can take ages or even forever for it to be fixed if there's no incentive for the company... Personally I'm kinda losing hope on the whole private/public distinction, anarcho-capitalism is real~ (though you can just call it capitalism and mean the same thing)
(DIR) Post #9slR1fzEiO7zjX0RQO by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2020-03-07T12:40:04.258851Z
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@yousei @zudn @fribbledom there is no private-public distinction, only the autism-normie distinction. We don't need capitalism or socialism, we need autistism
(DIR) Post #9slZBFQQdjsnh1Nray by ls@social.lsnet.eu
2020-03-07T08:46:50Z
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@fribbledom "UK Transport Secretary Grant Shapps wrote to the independent airport coordinator asking for the rules to be suspended during the crisis to prevent further unnecessary environmental and economic damage."That's not about capitalism, it's about stupid rules.
(DIR) Post #9slZEB2HPshuwpU9Ds by zudn@theres.life
2020-03-07T09:19:28Z
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@fribbledom As a company, they must be profitable. I can't see the sense in it, but I imagine they can.
(DIR) Post #9slZEBUzh7fyNsv4ym by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2020-03-07T09:22:56Z
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@zudn Sure, I don't disagree with that. In their position we would probably decide and act similarly.But if the rules of our system are that strange, maybe we're playing this entire game wrong.
(DIR) Post #9slkI08sxWE1ogbKPg by gaab@mastodon.technology
2020-03-07T08:52:52Z
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@fribbledom That's rather this flying industry collapsing, not capitalism, I think.
(DIR) Post #9slkI0en2tkJPdWo8u by meena@glitch.social
2020-03-07T10:17:00Z
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@gaab @fribbledom stupid rules to keep capitalism competitive.my question is: why is the airlines' first thought: let's fly ghost planes, instead of: let's ask to have this rule suspended during a pandemic.?(*or something treated like a pandemic)
(DIR) Post #9slkIhXVbqTIPVS6GO by gaab@mastodon.technology
2020-03-07T11:02:00Z
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@meena @fribbledom Exactly.
(DIR) Post #9snXWDNBX2GBBQFP4S by mendel@cmpwn.com
2020-03-08T00:16:17Z
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@fribbledom How does this have anything to do with capitalism? It's regulation, communist/socialist government have even more of it...
(DIR) Post #9snXWIl7VTNPt6U5ZY by charims@mastodon.technology
2020-03-08T00:21:02Z
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@mendel @fribbledom I agree, regulation requires planes to fly if any amount of customers have booked on them. This was looking out for the best interest of the customer. I work for an airline, we are not happy to fly near-empty planes. Straight capitalism would refund the tickets and cancel the flight if it wasn't economical to do so. Trust me, taking off a plane less than half full is almost never profitable (depending mostly on fuel prices).