Post 9r8GPYBw3Wh2Ed0EXQ by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #9r8F3G7eSK4Jryo1JI by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:00:11Z
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(DIR) Post #9r8Fi2WXv44jZFtb5U by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:07:32Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx Oh sure, a world without government would be so much better. 🙄
(DIR) Post #9r8FnS7gAdpUPQqTya by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:08:32Z
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@normandc Yes, a wold without murderers, liars, thieves, etc... claiming to be a "Government" would be so much better.
(DIR) Post #9r8GJQkWoQZhPsGUhU by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:14:19Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx And how would that work exactly?The law of the strongest, or the one with the biggest gun. War lords, fiefdom, feudalism, indentured servitude. Is that what you crave?BTW in what country are you in? I guess it would influence/explain your thinking.
(DIR) Post #9r8GPYBw3Wh2Ed0EXQ by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:15:25Z
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@normandc That's how it woks currently. The "Government" has the biggest guns and is full of war lords.... Has serfs and indentured servants.... Etc......
(DIR) Post #9r8GSrHLXvpSIm6wvw by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:16:01Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx Again, how would it work without?
(DIR) Post #9r8GaQV2zgSZZ580u0 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:17:23Z
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@normandc Look at how it works now, having murderers in charge isn't exactly awesome.
(DIR) Post #9r8GnxbnCvNI0xjkOm by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-18T17:19:49Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx How long do you plan on evading my question? Okay, government bad, needs to be teared down. What's next? What do you replace it with? Nothing? Everyone for themselves?
(DIR) Post #9rPLeTg2vP942HLJXE by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-26T23:04:13Z
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@normandc (one of two) I apologize about the late reply. I have literally been in another country for a week. As far as how would "It" work without the State, I am assuming that you are referring to "It" being the protection of the week against the strong?First of all, a "Government" has no obligation to protect its subjects from anyone. Police are there to apprehend and assist in the prosecution of those the State deems worthy of prosecution, not to protect anyone.
(DIR) Post #9rPMG7h96QqYrZo9I0 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-26T23:11:02Z
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@normandc (two of two) Second of all, if you want to see a great example of how to be proactive and prevent violence, I would recommend checking out Detroit Threat Management. It particularly caters to low income individuals and families and has helped to curb true crime in the area.If the State no longer had the monopoly on violence that it does, it's hard telling what other innovative solutions other people could come up with.http://threatmanagementcenter.com/https://tomwoods.com/ep-597-can-the-private-sector-protect-against-crime-this-case-study-will-blow-your-mind/
(DIR) Post #9rRqSxXJZLjS3wAMLY by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-28T03:58:56Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx I appreciate you taking time to respond, but your replies are besides the point I was trying to make. You said you wanted to abolish government. Well, we do live in a society, and government is more than protection or policing. As previously mentioned, what about infrastucture (roads), education, health, etc.?
(DIR) Post #9rRqtG2tNHVaztTaro by normandc@fosstodon.org
2020-01-28T04:03:41Z
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@cigarBGuitarEfx I would also like to mention as a side argument that in Western countries other than the USA, police departments haven't "militarized" like it has in your country. Not to say that there are no problems (far from it), but they are not as endemic.
(DIR) Post #9rYgmbs1TL0ltv3AMi by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-31T11:13:23Z
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@normandc (one of two) Why would a government be needed for people to have roads, health care, and education? In an age when anyone could literally learn anything on the internet, it is safe to assume that schools will be seen as a novelty in the very near future.Getting the State involved in "Health Care" has done nothing but made all medical services more expensive. I suggest looking into this https://www.dpcare.org/about1-ccz5 It is the old fashioned model of paying your doctor directly.
(DIR) Post #9rYit8Xz5qhYtMuwDo by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-31T11:37:00Z
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@normandc (two of three I guess I lied)The problem with health care in this country is "Health Insurance" (both public and private) putting a 3rd party in between you and the people that provide a service to you does nothing but make it more expensive. Consider this intellectual exercise about paying for food in a similar manner. https://mises.org/library/suppose-there-were-food-insuranceAs far as roads go, I don't see the issue. The free market will provide infrastructure as it is needed.
(DIR) Post #9rYk5uiZv9o1ijWrNA by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
2020-01-31T11:50:31Z
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@normandc (three of three) Do you really think that if the State did not exist, people would just stay where they were and wish that there where some way to get from point A to point B? It stands to reason, given the demand for travel, that as roads are needed, the free market would provide them.There would be no 3rd party in between those paying for the service and those providing the service(and sucking the money off into other programs), so the funding model would be extremely affordable.