Post 9pqDMKCPJOjeGbwF3A by Alicia@neenster.org
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 (DIR) Post #9ppVFvF6n4M194L3gG by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T18:10:06Z
       
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       Learn one point perspective for kids. Some say it's too much for kids but I tend to treat them like adults for some reason. All C&C are welcome  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ms81HYRNo&list=PLHvzWuQ8oftF0iSHiOdRzUJw3apBl34PM
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppXvkuNnr9zAHigsK by nina@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T18:39:45Z
       
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       @jeffparadox Excellent intro to one-point perspective! Well done.Some kids (and adults) have trouble drawing straight lines to points like that, so showing a straight edge (ruler or edge of a book) might help them.Primary colors are controversial! In pigments like those pens the primary colors are magenta, yellow, and cyan. When I was a kid I was IN TEARS because I couldn't make purple out of the "primary colors" red and blue. No one told me it was impossible; you need magenta! It was so frustrating and painful to be told over and over they were red, yellow, and blue, when I couldn't mix the colors I needed with those, because they're not actually the primary colors of pigments. Except some people say they are! @mittimithai knows more about why there are different theories of primary pigment colors (please chime in!) but as a former kid, I say kids should be able to really mix those colors themselves, and that means CMY, not RYB.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppZD1oeIJyqTnq0oK by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T18:54:20Z
       
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       I know most of those theories are debatable, so I went by the classical book definition here. Additive and subtractive colors or a vid just about colors could be the subject of another video. @nina @mittimithai
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppZgDYxhMu1JIQ2eO by nina@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T18:59:35Z
       
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       @jeffparadox @mittimithai I have OPINIONS, because when I was a child we had this book: https://www.amazon.com/Ant-Bee-Rainbow-Angela-Banner-ebook/dp/B00HVG71F8 It said, "blue and red make violet." WELL THEY DON'T. Blue and red make BROWN and 5-year-old Nina cry.I shall avenge my 5-year-old child-self who was wronged by inappropriate color theory, by ranting on the Internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppZmeDTVxnHiCR13Q by nina@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T19:00:50Z
       
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       @jeffparadox @mittimithai I have OPINIONS, because when I was a child we had this book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/218926.Ant_and_Bee_and_the_Rainbow It said, "blue and red make violet." WELL THEY DON'T. Blue and red make BROWN and 5-year-old Nina cry.I shall avenge my 5-year-old child-self who was wronged by inappropriate color theory, by ranting on the Internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppddX9gnWCd1TZcw4 by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T19:44:00Z
       
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       :D That's cool. Oil paints work pretty good though; red and blue make purple pretty much? @nina @mittimithai
       
 (DIR) Post #9pppJhJgVXnuCBYZv6 by Alicia@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T21:54:52Z
       
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       @jeffparadox This is great, and right at my level - 🤣 I would actually like to learn to draw, but maybe too old.  I'll probably be watching a lot of these.Just one q: Why do you keep saying, "kids!"  Made me think of that old meme, "Hello, fellow kids!" even tho I know that's not what you were going for...
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppvMlbRcv885Ei74C by mittimithai@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T23:02:16Z
       
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       @jeffparadox @nina Yep, Nina's pens (dyes) filter light in a different way than oil paints.  I teaching kids hue value and chroma all the time and they really get it....a lot of eyes light up when I explain 'brown' as merely a 'dark orange'.  I too cried a lot at confusing color concepts and the meaning of 'primary color'.  My best super short explanation (short of 'read handprint'):Primary colors are whatever you want them to be, there is no one set.  No finite set of lights/pigments/dyes can mix 'all' colors. Both lights and pigments actually mix in complex ways (see The Dress), which don't always make sense with simple rules. If you want to be able to mix a 'lot' of colors with an electronic display, the pixels will have to be R, G and B hues (not necessarily specific wavelengths) ...with dyes they'll have to be C, M, Y.  The only primary colors that can mix *all* colors are imaginary, no physical light lets us see them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ppvbwLLyaNtjpQ384 by mittimithai@neenster.org
       2019-12-10T23:05:24Z
       
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       @jeffparadox @nina I haven't yet mixed a red and blue that don't end up being purple, but those purples are often super dull....and at low values and low chroma, they can 'move' between brown and purple (like on flesh).
       
 (DIR) Post #9pqBVlOXMuxZJJz8JU by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-11T02:03:24Z
       
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       Thanks, never too old to learn anything :) I don't know the meme; I talk to them so that's why I guess. If it's too much and becomes annoying, I should look into it then? @Alicia
       
 (DIR) Post #9pqBgnyK7w0SUNzN3Y by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-11T02:05:33Z
       
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       Ok, thanks! That's in sync with what I know. After all, they're all just theories not laws. :/ @mittimithai @nina
       
 (DIR) Post #9pqDMKCPJOjeGbwF3A by Alicia@neenster.org
       2019-12-11T02:24:16Z
       
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       @jeffparadox Well, if you're getting good feedback from kids - your target audience - I wouldn't change a thing!
       
 (DIR) Post #9prZrmqNXSB7vIGpA8 by jeffparadox@neenster.org
       2019-12-11T18:11:03Z
       
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       Thanks! Feedback is great so far :) @Alicia