Post 9pjVFfkLEtru8V4Kp6 by Maxz@spinster.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #9pjSACykTAqtbXVifg by Hildegarde_de_Bingen@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:03:44Z
       
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       I'm shakin' in my boots to share this one, but Julie Bindel makes some points that I think deserve consideration. So, I ask folks to watch the video with an open, nuanced mindset and discuss calmly and thoughtfully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=PDKwYbV1jQs&feature=emb_logoI'm a lesbian, but I wasn't born this way - Julie Bindel | Comment is FreeApr 22, 2015The GuardianNone of the science dedicated to finding a gay gene holds water, so why not make a positive choice to reject heterosexuality and decide to switch sides? Julie Bindel explains why she believes she chose her sexuality, rather than it having chosen her. But, she asks, have we returned to the essentialist notion that we are either 'born that way' or that we are unthinkingly heterosexual?
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjSsn7rRASgSD21c8 by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:15:03Z
       
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       I love this. I definitely choose to be bi. I adore women, and men, but I could probably quite happily live my life with either one ( as I am doing now).  But it is with pride that I can say I also have major heartthumping attraction and love for women. And even though I have no real need to identify as bi, I do, so that my voice is added to the normalisation of such orientation and to show solidarity with my lesbian sisters. Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting. @Hildegarde_de_Bingen
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjT9lmfgABbDQDTHM by HellaDea@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:18:22Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen i think that if i had more lesbian role models and there was more lesbian propaganda on tv i could have very well been a lesbian. But instead all my kid shows had the femxx marry a male and live happily ever after.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjTMoHnghBajwzjyi by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:20:17Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen yeah Bindel is a bully and tries to make out that sexual orientation is a choice and all women should choose to go with women,  it is RAPEY AF and she can FO to FO land and back again with her bullying.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjUfbMc3aIO7OloP2 by Brookryn@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:35:19Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen it makes me crazy when intelligent people argue that they are the way they are because it was totally the smartest choice consciously made and not just the way they are. :blobfoxdisapprove:
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjVFfkLEtru8V4Kp6 by Maxz@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T20:41:46Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @Hildegarde_de_Bingen If its about attraction, then if someone has never been attracted to the opposite sex at any time in their lives, despite the enormous pressures of home, church, society etc... how does that come about? It's easy to date someone from the opposite sex especially as a young person. To conform to expectations of family and society. To choose to be a lesbian seems absurd in those circumstances. For many, choosing to be a lesbian lead to violence, ostricisation and emotional abuse. I'm talking about less enlightened times where the term lesbian was a dirty word unlike now.  And yet women came out as lesbians and took the shit that was thrown at them.Coming out wasn't a process of choosing to be a lesbian, it was saying I am a lesbian. I have had to keep it a secret up until now but I'm not hiding anymore. I am stating that from this moment onwards I will show to the world that I am proud to be a lesbian. That's the pride that we hold and unfortunately it has been watered down and lost its impact in recent times.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjXK2G3gRk91N726i by Anna_F@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T21:04:59Z
       
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       I saw this a while back. I dont think shes saying all lesbians are choosing to be lesbians, shes saying that you can choose to be if you want. Saying otherwise is calling it a bag of shit to be a lesbian right? Im totally in to women and have been for most of my life in to men, men were easier to come by than the lesbians I liked so I tended to have more relationships with men, from the outside looking entirely striaght, despite being happy in those relationships at the time. The older I get the gayer I get, the more I hate men the gayer I get and I definitely have noticed a shift towards choosing gay in recent years because I simply prefer women and cant stand men.  @Hildegarde_de_Bingen
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjcTCfmpW0ThRKzTM by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T22:02:40Z
       
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       Love be the huffin and puffin below . All the bluster won't change the fact that I am here and I agree with Bindel's assessment. I am what I am, always have been, since childhood. I think bi people can truly understand how she's saying it's a choice. I feel very lucky that it has always felt like a choice for me. I know when it's not a choice it can make life very difficult for people. @Hildegarde_de_Bingen
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjiXeQYBK2Sf3iO80 by Melkora@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-07T23:10:43Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen  Well... everybody who clains woman can choose to be lesbian, is homophobic. It's that easy.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pjuldb5GP4Tah4saW by k181@spinster.xyz
       2019-12-08T01:27:44Z
       
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       @Hildegarde_de_Bingen I'll admit to not having watched the video, because I'd always rather read, but it's a big disagree from me. I spent so many years of my life wishing I could be bisexual, even now it feels like the easy route, because I don't feel like I've met any truly heinous men (unless they're just very good at hiding it). I'll always have hope for the future, but for me, being lesbian has been 90% suffering, 10% joy or solidarity at the stories of other women. Even though I often feel bad for straight women, I wouldn't choose this either, if I could choose. And if I can't choose, how can anyone else?