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(DIR) Post #9pZ0w71y91svWZoiQa by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-02T19:14:56.828217Z
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Hey, quick #PeerTube questionWhat's the best / easiest way to block other instances? I kind of wanted to preemptively start blacklisting alleged Nazi instances.
(DIR) Post #9pZ1UKfJxQcjepXajY by support@social.spacebear.ee
2019-12-02T19:20:58.925867Z
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@sean I believe your server already needs to know about the instances you'd like to block. Here is some discussion on the topic: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/430
(DIR) Post #9pZ1YYjzZG2ITBk1OC by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-02T19:21:59.616200Z
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@support Ah, good to know.Hopefully in the future we might get something similar to Pleroma's MRF system, where you can just put domains in ahead of time without the need for the server to know about it.
(DIR) Post #9pZqBU1K30XOpbbKxU by whiteout@enigmatic.observer
2019-12-03T04:49:15.453627Z
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@sean Not in the context of peertube, but: > I kind of wanted to preemptively start blacklisting alleged Nazi instances.Are you verifying the validity of their claims? Because there is a group of people in Fediverse who actively is spreading lies about others. According to them, blob.cat, fedi.absturztau.be, lets.bemoe.online and mine instances are nazis. (Which isn't the case. I believe you have been interacting with @mewmew and subscribed to me for some time to see this).
(DIR) Post #9pZqcMebXlrrnsnEUC by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T04:54:07.916618Z
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@sean the question is, why would you do this?
(DIR) Post #9pZqjxfGKzFocJiuP2 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T04:55:26.593497Z
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@mewmew mostly curiosity, to see if there's something in place to just nope out of specific instance domains so that I don't have to ever receive anything from them.
(DIR) Post #9pZrXjNZiwkkn7BMHI by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T05:04:30.508337Z
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@sean ah, ok. I'm pretty sure there's a way to block domains - although I caution strongly against preemptive suspensions.
(DIR) Post #9pZrkMtubqreq9KjtA by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T05:06:44.465724Z
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@mewmew Yeah, don't worry. I could've chosen a better word...I'm doing research on instances as warnings come up to properly evaluate them, but I'd rather block the ones I have no intention of connecting with, prior to connecting with them.I guess one shortcoming of PeerTube is that you have to have results from an offending instance to kick off the blacklist, which is a little bit backwards from what it should be, if you already know what domains you want to stay away from.
(DIR) Post #9pZwP1NRwDyvm8n1W4 by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T05:58:57.148953Z
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@sean @mewmew wasn't peertube federation (for videos) explicitly opt-in? I thought you had to "follow" an instance to get their videos.
(DIR) Post #9pZwRFtSwBaZNOpXZw by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T05:59:21.475567Z
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@passenger @sean depends on how you configure it, but by default yes
(DIR) Post #9pZwaVpP3xOrP1LOwC by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T06:01:02.465967Z
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@mewmew @sean blacklisting ""Nazi instances"" when federation is opt-in is like putting RDN on your blocklist.
(DIR) Post #9pZwu2OgCEZvup9eue by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T06:04:33.573532Z
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@mewmew @sean >auto_follow_backMan I wish Pleroma had that
(DIR) Post #9pZxOn0rRbdFBBg42q by wowaname@anime.website
2019-12-03T06:10:07.376977Z
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@sean come on youre better than this
(DIR) Post #9pah83cR2ueXePDCpE by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2019-12-03T10:09:52Z
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@sean seems to be no real developer support for that kind of due dilligence.Many admins simply don't federate with other instances, to avoid having to deal with hate.At one point I asked if anyone was planning on forking the project to introduce proper content oversight and user protection, but although it's one of my most boosted posts ever, nobody responded in the affirmative.So, huge demand, but not much reasons for hopefulness?Sorry I can't bring better news.
(DIR) Post #9pah840BcbeSq4KAqW by franz@pantherx.social
2019-12-03T14:13:18Z
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@ansugeisler @sean might as well switch back to Facebook; they'll do the moderation, for you 😂Once you start exclusion by default, you're no better than China, or the US, or .. well, the list is too long - I don't want to bore you.
(DIR) Post #9pah84IGXO75k8mc1g by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T14:42:27.320499Z
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@franz @ansugeisler to be clear, this was just for my personal instance, and really only became a concern once I enabled a new feature that auto-subscribes my instance to other instances listed on joinpeertube or otherwise following me.I was just kind of looking for some compromise where I could say "yeah, auto-subscribe to this index, but skip specific domains from this processing list"I was kind of hoping to have something like Pleroma's MRF system, which is exactly perfect for that use-case.
(DIR) Post #9pahRnDFklmyYkqNVY by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T14:46:04.829488Z
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@passenger @mewmew to some extent this is true, but I was experimenting with the new "subscribe to instances subscribed to joinpeertube's listings / subscribe to instances that follow you" and unfortunately I have a lot of media listings that I just don't care about on my personal instance.Thankfully, I can just mute the stuff I don't want to see, but I'm not convinced that this feature was the discovery tool I had hoped it would be.
(DIR) Post #9palQAU4eyNjyJBzvc by zem@conesphere.social
2019-12-03T10:36:24Z
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@mewmewi am still missing a system where you can add certain trustlevels on instances to block sites for you. but that is not as trivial as it sounds as far as i can think it over. @passenger @sean
(DIR) Post #9parIp5KQFSZIkUym0 by felix@radical.town
2019-12-03T16:30:01Z
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@jane Here is the post:https://cornichon.me/@PeerTube_Isolation/103240191123402599Problem is that you cant even mute instances by domain, you have to go to a user profile from that instance and do it there. Blocking instances is not implemented.@sean
(DIR) Post #9parQ15QCQXWYByLq4 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T16:37:48.541335Z
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@felix @jane it's sort of implemented, you just have to access a user from that instance locally first.The UX could be a lot better here.
(DIR) Post #9parn14KQmyB9kQc76 by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T16:41:58.769162Z
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@felix @sean > Blocking instances is not implemented.I'm liking PeerTube more and more
(DIR) Post #9pasHgkw0Haj8Nyywq by felix@radical.town
2019-12-03T16:47:21Z
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@mewmew But hey, we got a plugin system, that totally makes up for it right? (it does not)@sean
(DIR) Post #9pb7vyUuvbjo3utOoS by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T19:42:52.419658Z
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@sean @mewmew tbh peertube-to-peetube video federation is a mistake and automatic video federation even more so. how 2 get flooded with porn tutorial.I really like the ability to follow channels and comment on videos from fedi though.
(DIR) Post #9pb8DaBW3t49ryDKBE by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T19:46:02.562902Z
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@passenger @mewmew yeah, it's a cheap feature that probably creates more problems than it solves.The discovery problem is huge with federated content platforms, but a firehose is probably not going to solve it. There's too much crap.I actually think gradually building out and connecting intentional communities might be the way to go. Like, maybe only federate with other closed instances and microblog-fedi in the beginning, once you have engaged communities, maybe open things up more.
(DIR) Post #9pb8gdqDXukJbk6lA8 by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T19:51:19.109546Z
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@sean @mewmew fedi repeat button = organic content discovery. You can bootstrap discovery off social networks and hopefully it'll be less shit than algorithmic discovery like on youtube. Then again if twitter taught us anything it's that (at least on a large and normie-infested network) outrage and petty drama get the clicks.
(DIR) Post #9pb8n8TSZAzuLrYm8m by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T19:52:26.564242Z
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@passenger @sean My opinion is that on PeerTube, you should be able to Announce a video which recommends it to your subscribers, so you could have a more organic "recommends" system that doesn't just include videos that your instance subscribes to.
(DIR) Post #9pb9230NBOLjjW46j2 by Chopper@blob.cat
2019-12-03T19:55:11.275655Z
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@mewmew @passenger @sean why does it feel like peer tube is often forgotten about?
(DIR) Post #9pb9LUOTZmcUBDbs5g by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T19:58:41.940238Z
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@mewmew @sean >channel Announces other channel's videoThis sounds good as long as you have cultural or software downregulation of Announce activities. Even on microblogs many accounts become repeat-heavy because effort(clicking button) < effort(composing post). Can you imagine how bad it would be on a video sharing site?clicking one buttonvscrafting high-quality multimedia content
(DIR) Post #9pb9LcTjW7ZvFq8BOa by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-12-03T19:58:42.535149Z
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@mewmew @passenger yeah, right now it feels like a dumping ground rather than any sort of actual community
(DIR) Post #9pb9RU4Tgjeuuv79ZA by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-12-03T19:59:46.068634Z
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@passenger @sean The repeats wouldn't show up as notifs, they'd be what fills the sidebar recommended videos beside a video. Basically a way for a creator to endorse a video to be recommended.
(DIR) Post #9pb9Y7yMFVZCPFQ5E8 by passenger@anime.website
2019-12-03T20:00:59.096705Z
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@mewmew @sean dude. video replies. we have the technology