Post 9oSTCCigWrVMZZJiwC by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
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(DIR) Post #9oSM8OHssZZpc012dE by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:17:29.184238Z
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apparently yocto are switching from RPM to APKtake that, redhat
(DIR) Post #9oSMKl0MF6INXkiNIe by freakazoid@retro.social
2019-10-30T16:18:44Z
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@kaniini What advantages does APK have over the more popular package formats?
(DIR) Post #9oSMKlv4qDfKNfFfhw by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:19:40.420158Z
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@freakazoid apk is very fast and very correct re: atomicity
(DIR) Post #9oSMLghZj5jYUINC4m by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:19:54.025733Z
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@freakazoid it also has a very correct dependency resolver
(DIR) Post #9oSMnUivr1BpRkGcXg by freakazoid@retro.social
2019-10-30T16:22:24Z
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@kaniini AIUI .deb is also correct on both counts and is only slow at the former because it allows the packager to do a bunch of other stuff. Stuff that maybe shouldn't be done by the package manager I guess?
(DIR) Post #9oSMnVMzS5ETRz0byq by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:24:54.865568Z
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@freakazoid apk is basically deb-ng, anything a deb can do an apk can also do. things like triggers came from apk, as well.
(DIR) Post #9oSMuX4HXJKakDbpLs by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:26:11.824570Z
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@freakazoid the main thing about apk that is nice verses the dpkg (and surrounding ecosystem) is that the system state is always a well-defined declarative graph. this means you can reproduce system installs, like you can with stuff like nix, but without having to buy into everything nix does.
(DIR) Post #9oSMzczwupcwaI0pTE by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:27:07.031139Z
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@freakazoid basically, i would suggest spinning up an alpine docker or running it in a VM or whatever and trying it. you'll "get it" if you try it, i think
(DIR) Post #9oSN2EuCwpIAjOZX0q by trini@society.oftrolls.com
2019-10-30T16:27:15Z
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@kaniini You, uh, got a link for that? I only see the good old rpm, deb and ipk code anywhere...
(DIR) Post #9oSN2Fm5iUOTQVmZ04 by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:27:33.780711Z
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@trini it's coming soon(tm)
(DIR) Post #9oSNBug70WWgtQakLI by trini@society.oftrolls.com
2019-10-30T16:28:15Z
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@kaniini from who?
(DIR) Post #9oSNBvO4N5gj5l9qrI by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T16:29:19.426555Z
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@trini idk, one of the yocto people is in #alpine-devel talking about it
(DIR) Post #9oSTCC158ycuOKutyS by freakazoid@retro.social
2019-10-30T17:27:46Z
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@kaniini I ran Alpine on my router for years. I've been a little afraid to use it as a general server OS, but maybe I should try it out on my fileserver instead of FreeNAS.
(DIR) Post #9oSTCCigWrVMZZJiwC by kaniini@socially.whimsic.al
2019-10-30T17:36:36.180969Z
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@freakazoid it's mostly good, i've been running alpine on servers for over a decade :)