Post 9nMME3YY2ivuvT2cU4 by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
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 (DIR) Post #9nLG6c9siPjR2ic0EC by _xhr_@mastodon.social
       2019-09-27T05:36:55Z
       
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       #RMS continues as lead of the #GNU project. Seems it's time to avoid GNU whenever possible.https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2019-09/msg00008.html
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLG6ceirkOyaN2dIe by henrikjohansen@bsd.network
       2019-09-27T06:18:19Z
       
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       @_xhr_ let me understand this ... because Stallman continues his involvement with #GNU we should stop using GNU software?
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLG6d4bJX6Nsd9IdU by _xhr_@mastodon.social
       2019-09-27T07:03:07Z
       
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       @henrikjohansen That's my opinion. He provides a toxic environment and the GNU project itself should make sure that this doesn't happen.If they don't do this, I assume they agree with his opinions. Thus, I don't want to use their software anymore.The same happend with Chef lately. Their CEO - at first - decided to work with fascists. Then the user base and employees revolted and things changed. The same thing could happen to GNU.https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/23/chef-ceo-does-an-about-face-says-company-will-not-renew-ice-contract/
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLG6dNOBg8AotwIvA by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
       2019-09-27T08:14:30Z
       
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       @_xhr_ @henrikjohansen Theo de Raadt had his toxic moments, too. I guess I should stop using OpenSSH....
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLd2SfoKupvPfXFq4 by rumpelsepp@mastodon.social
       2019-09-27T10:57:20Z
       
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       @_xhr_ Why?
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLd2SwpJeRoGRUqMS by _xhr_@mastodon.social
       2019-09-27T11:13:02Z
       
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       @rumpelsepp If the GNU project tolerates Stallman as a leader, they implicitly agree with his opinions.And I don't want to use software developed by a group that tolerates such toxic opinions. I stopped using the st terminal after it became public that the developers supports fascistic ideas.
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLd2TFyATlBDoS8CO by mazuba@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T12:31:47.883026Z
       
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       @_xhr_ @rumpelsepp What toxic opinions?To me this whole hate mob seems like "woke" people deciding to bully someone who's incredibly autistic.
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLpiX7DPUpsnnBIo4 by _xhr_@mastodon.social
       2019-09-27T14:04:46Z
       
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       @mazuba Just read https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing and explain me where the hate mob is. If you want to see other toxic opinions, just look at his blog.
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLpiXRQCMzzoSdRIm by mazuba@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T14:53:52.147527Z
       
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       @_xhr_ the article is misleading. He never said Epstein victims were entirely willing, he said that Epstein probably forced them to act like they were willing to the people he brought to the island (which makes sense, as he wouldn't want to be found out).His point was that Minsky probably didn't know that they weren't willing, not that they were actually willing, and that it was Epstein that did the wrong thing, not Minsky..
       
 (DIR) Post #9nLpnDOy8HLl6piZk0 by fristi@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T13:05:26.729502Z
       
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       @_xhr_ @rumpelsepp That's nonsense and you know it. Simply because the leader of <thing> said something, doesn't mean you can then call out every single follower of <thing> simply because leader said that thing. That's not how it works, that's never how it works, and it will never work like that. You're just looking for an easy reason to conveniently judge and fault anyone that doesn't conform to your opinion. Those that follow Stallman do so for each their own reasons. Some are part of GNU for reasons entirely separate from Stallman. And those that follow Stallman directly can do so, not because he has such opinions, but dispite that he has them; they may in fact only and solely follow Stallman for his opinions on software freedom alone, separate from any other of his opinions.Not to attack your views or anything, and you're free to have any opinion you like on GNU, its people and its software, but your opinion is short-sighted and quite frankly, completely flawed. I use GNU software and I support GNU and the FSF; I do so because I concur with their views on software freedom. Not because Stallman said <thing>. So if you don't mind, I'd rather not be made out for anything I know I'm not.If you want an actual reason to flame on Stallman, consider this; personally I don't want to see him leading GNU anymore. Not for his political opinions, but the fact that he's constantly spouting them at all; in his position, that's quite harmful for the GNU project and the FSF, as the two now constantly get associated with these opinions and all the bad press that comes with it. He has that constant need to ventilate opinions on things. That's just one very ill-advised quality to have as the leader of anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMLzt3gHEYAJTqZTU by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T20:55:35.211646Z
       
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       @_xhr_ @henrikjohansen Software does not have opinions - you are only hurting yourself by avoiding software just because you do not like one of the people that contributed to it :blobcatshrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMMB2atAEh34ZhLfc by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T20:57:36.271666Z
       
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       @_xhr_ @rumpelsepp > I stopped using the st terminal after it became public that the developers supports fascistic ideas.I thought that the suckless project was quite supportive of marginalised people, did something happen with them? :blobcatthink:
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMME3YY2ivuvT2cU4 by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
       2019-09-27T20:58:08.801755Z
       
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       @_xhr_ well gnu is shit anyway so you won't be losing anything of value.
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMMSs4B2nh1dOtqEa by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T21:00:43.935194Z
       
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       @mazuba @_xhr_ Hey, look at all these toxic opinions https://stallman.org/archives/2015-sep-dec.html#31_December_2015_(Encryption)spits encryption bad!!! :blobcatangery:
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMMYBhDUNPHxkhAGG by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T21:01:46.951403Z
       
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       @xj9 @_xhr_ The busybox clan was here, gnu is a looser. :blobcatsmug:
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMMaIdWehIC4EyZCC by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
       2019-09-27T21:02:09.970435Z
       
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       @Mikoto @_xhr_ @rumpelsepp st is nice, but I'm trying to ditch *NIX completely
       
 (DIR) Post #9nMNyoXzlO3zwPdtHk by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-09-27T21:17:47.417554Z
       
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       @xj9 @_xhr_ @rumpelsepp Once I get off my butt I will make my own kernel which throws posix compatibility out of the window. :blobcatuwu: