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(DIR) Post #9mG4QDEtqoeLKJAnJ2 by louis@pleroma.gnusocial.club
2019-08-25T22:18:15.207318Z
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Few hours of work and HyperScope for #Emacs is functional. Power of LISP. https://open.tube/videos/watch/086dbf07-a49f-42f6-b3f9-39997de66014 Learn more about building Dynamic Knowledge Repositories by Doug Engelbart: http://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/190/163/
(DIR) Post #9mIJpHKXfHjusn8tVI by beetle_b@mastodon.xyz
2019-08-26T22:49:31Z
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@louis It's hard to follow the video, and Doug's article is very vague. Perhaps a writeup will give more details on what you implemented?
(DIR) Post #9mIJpIOpgolYCO9ppY by louis@pleroma.gnusocial.club
2019-08-27T00:20:13.635850Z
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@beetle_b Yes, video is too fast to understand. That may be the feauture in the hyperscope.HyperScope is similar like a browser. It can hyper-link to anything what allows to be linked to.It is like a menu tree system or outline menu system where lists within menus can hyper-link to anything.It is like a visualized list of lists where list items can hyperlink to anything.Examples: links to Emacs Lisp functions, links to outside programs, links to WWW, FTP, just as usual, links to YouTube exact time-of-begin videos, links to local files, media, books, PDFs, exact positions in files, file numbers, regexp search in the file, tasks, Org files, anything.It is type of outline browsing or mind map for quick hyperlinking. It is very logical piece of software that one shall have if you ask me, and I remember writing similar types of menu based system with BASIC.It needed just maybe 1 hour to have the basic system in place, now I am just adding new links. Rapid development is possible due emacs itself, it offers tabulated-list-mode easy to implement.Idea is based on the mother of all demos and HyperScope: http://hyperscope.org/
(DIR) Post #9mLXNi53ic9uwe2BPM by beetle_b@mastodon.xyz
2019-08-27T22:49:55Z
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@louisThanks for the writeup. It seems you've built these in the past and so you had a specific UI/appearance in mind.I still will ask, though: Did you consider simply using #orgmode links capabilities or #hyperbolehttps://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/Org mode lets you create your own link types and Hyperbole is all about links (and lets you create your own type).
(DIR) Post #9mLXNiPySqtBzVot0a by louis@pleroma.gnusocial.club
2019-08-28T13:36:18.685769Z
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@beetle_b Hello. Thanks. Yes, I know Hyperbole. That is why I needed better functions. No, I did not make anything in past, it seem so to you. It iwas not more than 1 hour to implement the tabulated-list mode.I have rapid SQL development by using skeleton package, so I made the hlinktypes, hlinkstatuses tables within 2-3 minutes. hlinks table was made with basic structure which may not be right and perfect for everyone.I spoke about that to one developer of Pleroma here, but not that I am finding understanding when I mentioned rapid database development.I am using Hyperbole, but it does not have comfortable foundation for me. For example many links cannot get its name, just the link, this confuses the user who does not need to understand where is the path of the file, for example. It can be hidden by using emacs lisp types, with name of the link.Hyperbole is usable, but not usable quite for my needs. I would need to rely on the single file to make links to references to teach somebody, and then the links would be in .hypb, and I would not have human access to those links. For example, I cannot just kill/yank/copy/paste those links to share with somebody.With database structure, I can copy it in any form I wish, it can be human readable, or OPML, or I can convert to Org mode.By the way on Hyperbole mailing list, I was discussing possibility to link from Hyperbole to HyperScope that I now have (when polished I can publish) and vice versa, and also linking from HyperScope to Hyberbole.Hyperscope can have text with Hyperboles links in the database (temporarily placing .hypb file) -- so it becomes like data tree driven menu that links to just anything. For me this is important for teaching purposes, teaching and trainnig staff members, and clients.Especially greedy linking (correct me for right English term) is what is demanded. Capability to link to few seconds of a video file, or capability to link to certain paragraph in the PDF file, very greedy, straight to the point, capability to link to YouTube videos at certain specified time.This way, it is possible to prepare the lesson for people to learn only the essentials required to produce a product.