Post 9mC29RG1VADPL6jUQa by stuart_otterson@meow.social
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(DIR) Post #9m81x1bX0J9TSBRzKS by Irick@vulpine.club
2019-08-22T00:49:46Z
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Honestly I think that we need to start thinking more about how we are going to actively work to create better networks. IRC is a very robust system. Discord is a massive single point of failure with questionable motives, and yet I see an absolutely inordinate amount of support networks moving to that sphere. We are encouraging fundimental vunerability, and I feel bad for my complacency in that.
(DIR) Post #9m81x2Bgps4jGKMrgm by pnathan@mastodon.social
2019-08-22T00:54:37Z
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@Irick I was asking myself today.What would an anti-capitalist or antiracist tech look like?I know there is work out there on this. I need to do the work and read on it.
(DIR) Post #9m81x39FGRiKF2EQW8 by Irick@vulpine.club
2019-08-22T01:05:56Z
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@pnathan I don't really know. Technology needs a hierarchical arrangement of elements for it to remain manageable for the layperson. The problem is that we're allowing those hierarchies to function as way more than opportunity equalizers when we start tossing our lot in to siloed services.I think federation is a good middle ground. It certainty helps combat the co-optation of network effects into captive markets, which seems anti-capitalist to me. Tim Berners Lee's Solid project may end up being a better foundation for these sort of projects as it seems purpose built to counter surveillance capitalism hijacking it but for the moment I am just focused on getting back to where I was. I don't feel qualified to speak on the antiracist angle though. I'm not really sure if I understand how institutional racism is currently reflected in the structure of modern web technologies outside the ingrained biases of models trained on data that embodies those tendencies.
(DIR) Post #9mC29QH39rRUI0CnOC by recj@functional.cafe
2019-08-22T01:01:25Z
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@Irick I agree, but unfortunately the network effects of Discord have me communicating through it. it would be nice to have something similar to IRC with a flashy UI, voice and video, etc to fulfill people's needs rather than surrendering our privacy and need for open communication to this questionable platform
(DIR) Post #9mC29Qe5mBsFRSzCIy by Irick@vulpine.club
2019-08-22T01:11:11Z
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@recj XMPP seemed a good answer for a while, it's really too bad it just didn't take off.
(DIR) Post #9mC29QxabhTCPw6lhA by recj@functional.cafe
2019-08-22T02:54:02Z
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@Irick I actually just started to try XMPP and I like it so far... gives me the same vibe as old school messengers like AIM and seems promising. There's still a chance for it to be used more widely, perhaps
(DIR) Post #9mC29RG1VADPL6jUQa by stuart_otterson@meow.social
2019-08-23T20:19:08Z
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@recj @Irick my unsolicited current theory is that it is futile selling people on concepts like decentralisation and open source. Rather it must be like the alt-meat industry, you sell people on the idea of reducing meat intake, that it’s a healthier alternative, not that you stop killing animals, those are bonuses as far as people are concerned. So a chat protocol needs a good interface today (not a promise that it gets better).
(DIR) Post #9mC29Rc0BRnQRH12ga by louis@pleroma.gnusocial.club
2019-08-23T23:33:56.531531Z
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@stuart_otterson @recj @Irick only few get it straight, others follow well... because they follow...