Post 9mBBMpMVtgaaIDGega by grace_hawthorn@spinster.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #9mBBMorfkLv2kYq1c8 by Kateco@spinster.xyz
       2019-08-23T12:46:29Z
       
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       I'm sick to death of being called a Nazi because I stand up for women's rights. I had a particularly horrible exchange for hours last night where I was told that gender criticism came out of Nazism. It gets exhausting dealing with these morons. And it totally screws up my mental health if I stick around it all too long. And I turn into a total bitch because they deserve it. I'm told that I hate transpeople. I don't hate transpeople. I just want women's rights protected. There are lots of transpeople I really like. I don't care how people want to present themselves, good for them, they should go for it. But I do care that people are saying men can turn into women because they can't.I keep telling myself that it's important to keep going. To keep challenging. To keep pointing out facts. But being endlessly called a Nazi makes me wonder if I'm actually any good at it. I'm not an academic. I can't bring the right qualifications to the table. I'm just a sharp tongued middle aged woman. Am I doing any good, or am I just making us look like a bunch of hateful women? Welcome to my pity party, make yourself at home. Sigh.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mBBMp5UuwyhRRJ4AC by NeoRadFem@spinster.xyz
       2019-08-23T13:15:13Z
       
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       @Kateco If it helps I think most of us have been there. It's slow progress but I genuinely feel we are getting there. I know it's hard, but you're valued by your sisters and you're always welcome to vent here.x
       
 (DIR) Post #9mBBMpMVtgaaIDGega by grace_hawthorn@spinster.xyz
       2019-08-23T13:27:57Z
       
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       @NeoRadFem @Kateco i hear you - this stuff is hard. and i think it's also hard when there's so much furrowed-brow, beard-stroking, fake-academic fuckwittery from so many wokey-blokies. It's all misdirection to cover the very basic central truths. For what it's worth, my responses in these conversations depend very much on how much stamina i have, whether they're people i care about (i am more likely to give time and energy to people i love, or people who are working it out in good faith), and which particular battles i can fight that day. And I would love us to have a thread or two here about the strategies women use - which ones work, which ones have been hard, and some rehearsing. It's so much easier if I've done some thinking and practising in my head first. My strategies, to start us off; i like creating cognitive dissonance with questions and then leaving the questions hanging (this needs thought in advance), and I like pointing out process dynamics sometimes, in a 'curious' way (as in 'it's interesting that you're less prepared to listen to a woman who has expertise in this than you are to listen to XXX - why is that?'), and sometimes i do the "so, are you telling me....?" And sometimes, i go with 'oh fuck the fuck right off and when you get there fuck off some more...'  And, always always happy to listen to other women's frustration and venting