Post 9kaUrfDN4hMQ9WbPE0 by willywonkball@linuxrocks.online
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(DIR) Post #9kaS6ZfxeP8rSIOS1o by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-06T22:33:39Z
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Hong Kong protests show dangers of a cashless societyhttps://reason.com/2019/07/02/hong-kong-protests-show-dangers-of-a-cashless-society/#privacy #security #opsec #surveillance
(DIR) Post #9kaTEvWuNjizVNhoW0 by willywonkball@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-06T22:46:23Z
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@matt I love the convience of cashless and stuff. As a younger person in a country that has been great at adopting this stuff I grew up finding this normal. I have however been seeing the potential dangers in it.
(DIR) Post #9kaTZ51wlhgclKpjnc by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-06T22:50:01Z
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@willywonkball I'm not a curmudgeon when it comes to tech and convenience, but ya gotta be aware of the tradeoffs that come with it. Far too many people are not.I remember a time when credit cards were downright difficult to use day-to-day, and cash was easier.
(DIR) Post #9kaUrfDN4hMQ9WbPE0 by willywonkball@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-06T23:04:34Z
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@matt yeah I totally agree. I love tech and the convienences it brings. Hell Im a programming because I like knowong that I make peoples lives better or easier. But I dont like trading in freedoms for comfort or conveince. Its to high a price. Life shouldnt just be easy. Life is a struggle and through that struggle we grow.
(DIR) Post #9kbUkDtMSKlOXleeki by thatbrickster@aria.company
2019-07-07T10:37:57.817216Z
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@matt This is why I use cash where possible. Contactless payments are convenient at the cost of privacy and at the risk of payment processors rejecting transactions.
(DIR) Post #9kbUqGDqhjNNVc7Ibw by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-07-07T10:39:02.919936Z
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@matt >thinking that cash is any different from other materialisations of money
(DIR) Post #9kbVWGFezC4llIzVxY by dtluna@leftlibertarian.club
2019-07-07T10:46:07.030730Z
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@matt If some of our eggheads had their way, the protestors would have had no choice. A chorus of commentators call for an end to cash, whether because it frustrates central bank schemes, fuels black and grey markets, or is simply inefficient. We have plenty of newfangled payment options, they say. Why should modern first world economies hew to such primordial human institutions?Fucking techbros
(DIR) Post #9kbcsv12hFCrhBMmxM by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-07T12:08:54Z
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@lanodan Cash *is* inherently different than other forms of money.A rogue agent can remotely, and easily, remove your access to your "money" in a banking account (either by changing the balance to zero or freezing your account), thereby preventing you from using it. They can and do track your every usage.It is not so easy to remove your access to (and thereby preventing you from using) your cash without a) physical access to you or your cash, or b) interfering with society at large.
(DIR) Post #9kbd60773OwbGrRaVs by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-07T12:11:32Z
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@lanodan Cash, while trackable, is extremely difficult to do.Its not so easy to track a printed bill's serial number as it works its way through circulation, but it is theoretically possible. Even so, this could be thwarted by routinely swapping serialized bills with other people off the record.Coinage is next to impossible to reliably track. I'm not aware of any attempts to serialize coins, and there's no point to tracking fingerprints on coins because they change hands to often.
(DIR) Post #9kbdIIlXX236auDdJo by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-07-07T12:13:44.170217Z
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@matt This one was much more on the privacy part.Currently most people default to credit cards for everything unless it's not possible to use the credit card (which is getting very rare theses days), this creates quite a usage pattern. Sure, it's less direct than with credit cards but still.It's like turning tor/gpg/… on only when you need privacy.
(DIR) Post #9kbdS6TU5KrxMyRnaS by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-07T12:15:31Z
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@lanodan Indeed, which is why people need to support legislation that prevents cashless societies from even existing.For example:https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/sorry-amazon-philadelphia-bans-cashless-stores/
(DIR) Post #9kbdugievBtntBAwFs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-07-07T12:20:40.662883Z
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@matt And should try to use credit cards only when necessary so using cash doesn't spawn a warning flag.Such as only for withdrawing cash or large sums of money. And IMHO online payment shouldn't be via a credit card (as it's a broken model).
(DIR) Post #9kbeXKDeVgl3Or60Zc by rick@pl.n0id.space
2019-07-07T12:23:11.842220Z
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@lanodan @matt >It's like turning tor/gpg/… on only when you need privacy.most ppl.. including me.. do this this way ^^v <.<
(DIR) Post #9kbeXKYvEbluSp2zj6 by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-07T12:27:39Z
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@rick @lanodan Ho boy, if you're going to use tor, you need to make it a lifestyle change, and use it 100% of the time.On the subject of tor, it is not as secure as people think it is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSQCI4fqW88
(DIR) Post #9kc5Pt8fUerm9ARWgi by flussence@nulled.red
2019-07-07T17:28:50Z
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@matt @lanodan "cashless" is really just a euphemism for "card processor scrip".
(DIR) Post #9kc5no2a6GAbHk06am by matt@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-07T17:33:10Z
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@flussence @lanodan I could be old school and only use checks. That would piss everyone off :linus: Also it is increasingly difficult to use a check in a retail setting, and is horrible opsec if privacy and security are needed.