Post 9k3FsswqBAW4LUaRUm by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
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 (DIR) Post #9k37j5ij2PFxQfnsH2 by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T20:31:59Z
       
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       Baldr is dead
       
 (DIR) Post #9k37j619vs0ALqQb0S by Canageek@cybre.space
       2019-06-20T20:39:48Z
       
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       @kara_dreamer .... is this news? Didn't Loki kill him a long time ago?
       
 (DIR) Post #9k37tgOZXIVu4QQYZk by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T20:41:44Z
       
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       @Canageek there's different ways of looking at it, and it wasn't Loki, but more or less, yeahkinda sucks
       
 (DIR) Post #9k38UvvMlLiGwmWqlE by Canageek@cybre.space
       2019-06-20T20:48:28Z
       
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       @kara_dreamer Loki substituted the spear, it was his fault
       
 (DIR) Post #9k38j48R22feSzNeka by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T20:51:02Z
       
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       @Canageek I lay the blame on everyone else for thinking they could endlessly chuck sharp things at someone they hated, with impunity
       
 (DIR) Post #9k39ZuCGiEHMzYMyY4 by Canageek@cybre.space
       2019-06-20T21:00:35Z
       
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       @kara_dreamer Wait, the version I have by a Norse scholar says everyone LIKED Baldr. Or do you mean Loki?
       
 (DIR) Post #9k39g99U1T036z2iR6 by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T21:01:19Z
       
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       @Canageek yes, because the poem was written by a Christian and therefore psychologically wrongit actually makes no sense for Baldr to be liked
       
 (DIR) Post #9k3FsswqBAW4LUaRUm by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T21:01:48Z
       
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       @Canageek Sturluson was attempting to turn a Norse myth into a Christian morality tale and failed miserably, corrupting the whole story
       
 (DIR) Post #9k3FstnJ26U2yD8LGy by Canageek@cybre.space
       2019-06-20T22:11:13Z
       
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       @kara_dreamer Except Baldr was only added to Norse mythology agree they meet Christians and tried to reconcile the religions
       
 (DIR) Post #9k3HjG1HkCQ4uiCcOu by kara_dreamer@plural.cafe
       2019-06-20T22:31:54Z
       
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       @Canageek I think that interpretation is, at the very least, fairly disputable. the evidence is too scant, and our few sources impose their own slant. looking into the scholarship on Baldr and Hoðr I find mostly arguments, not settled interpretationsI'm only pointing out that the story makes sense *psychologically* as long as you assume that jealousy and hatred was Baldr's lot. you don't pitch rocks at the head of someone you like.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k3MGZbqKZnd2iRaIi by Canageek@cybre.space
       2019-06-20T23:22:44Z
       
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       @kara_dreamer I mean, *points at boxing, football, rugby*
       
 (DIR) Post #9k3NgAKF3fj26qyiNU by Alyx@computerfairi.es
       2019-06-20T23:38:34Z
       
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       @Canageek @kara_dreamer but that's just the point isn't it? people love The Team(tm) but that's fake. it's loving something that's not real. the fans despise the actual players and basically think they should be doing what they do for free