Post 9jmOVFvAi6TwXtILOS by guzzisti@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9jRiSeVBHQAyfZ8KrA by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T19:32:24Z
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A few months ago, Microsoft decided to collaborate with Google and drop its web engine in favor of Google's.Earlier this week, Google blocked all ad blockers, and now Microsoft has de-listed UBlock Origin (a powerful ad-blocker). Without real choice, monopolies will dictate what you see and do on the Internet.Real choice comes with Free/Open Source Software.
(DIR) Post #9jRigJEp8RMem6zjSC by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2019-06-02T19:34:54Z
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@emacsen funny, I still see uBlock Origin just fine in the MS Store app and website. Completely agree with the rest though, Chrome is a cancer on user agency
(DIR) Post #9jRil5WRYdKvgTVz0q by hunter@social.avoh.club
2019-06-02T19:35:47.025502Z
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@coldacid @emacsen >Chrome is a cancer on user agencyhehehe
(DIR) Post #9jRin5EJcEVxM9zFyK by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2019-06-02T19:36:08Z
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@hunter @emacsen damn I didn't even notice that lol
(DIR) Post #9jRivwlGTG4phKcp3A by koenaro@fediverse.initialization.tech
2019-06-02T19:37:40Z
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@emacsen "but can I play call of duty"
(DIR) Post #9jRjETQPlb7ADOhtZY by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T19:41:04Z
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@coldacid https://mspoweruser.com/ublock-origin-gets-unlisted-from-the-microsoft-ad-ons-store/
(DIR) Post #9jRjIVPKL0n3WQ7YaO by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-02T19:41:40Z
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@emacsen source on dropping bing for google?
(DIR) Post #9jRjLrDTi2u01uB1zk by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2019-06-02T19:42:25Z
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@emacsen I guess what I'm seeing is just for EdgeHTML based Edge then. More of the bullshit that comes with switching to Google's anti-user browser.
(DIR) Post #9jRjToOA6fNdZny1aq by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-06-02T19:43:52.134221Z
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@coldacid @emacsen LOL!image.png
(DIR) Post #9jRjyasyMPj4ft3ZVw by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2019-06-02T19:49:25Z
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@maxmustermann @emacsen given Brave's model, I think it's very unlikely that they won't roll back Google's nonsense for their own Chromium fork. But if they leave it in, at least there's still Pale Moon and other open browsers that don't purposefully fuck with their users over buckets of cash
(DIR) Post #9jRkCIgynfBiIpyzpY by prealpinux@mastodon.uno
2019-06-02T19:51:49Z
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@emacsen Firefox is a really good alternative, considering that with the latest updates is very fast
(DIR) Post #9jRkcI5peNINyR05jM by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T19:56:31Z
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Wow this post blew up!For anyone who liked it... I co-host a podcast about User Freedom with @cwebber called @librelounge which you can check out at https://librelounge.org
(DIR) Post #9jRkhTNJ8F0UPae52G by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-06-02T19:57:32.552025Z
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@coldacid @emacsenIf they let in google code that fucks adblocking for brave, the entire thing would be Toast. Eich started it as the remedy for content creators not getting paid and malvertisements. https://community.brave.com/t/google-wants-to-change-chromium-code-how-will-this-affect-brave/43191
(DIR) Post #9jRky3kZeoRBrRRB1U by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T20:00:25Z
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@maxmustermann @coldacid We're discussing two different things- one is a freedom issue and the other is a business model.Ultimately only I should be in charge of what runs on my computer. The discussion about how to fund artistic works is an important discussion and one that we can have, but it's separate from me deciding what code my computer should or shouldn't run.
(DIR) Post #9jRl8T5oHzfjM5KkAi by nleigh@cybre.space
2019-06-02T20:02:16Z
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@emacsen what’s the source on Microsoft de-listing uBO? I can still see it on the Store: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ublock-origin/9nblggh444l4
(DIR) Post #9jRlMgHe2hc6Jue8Qq by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T20:04:40Z
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@nleigh @nleighI read it on https://mspoweruser.com/ublock-origin-gets-unlisted-from-the-microsoft-ad-ons-store/I don't have the MS Store so I can't check this myself.
(DIR) Post #9jRlS6XtpOGFDcprPs by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-06-02T20:05:58.204229Z
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@emacsen @coldacid These two different things are affected by the same change google wants to implement. The browser lets you decide what you block with onboard tool, How you reward people and what else you run on it. These freedoms aren't there anymore if google says that you can't block ads anymore or replace them with your own.
(DIR) Post #9jRmVgu9Ce0Go4W2b2 by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-06-02T20:17:48.489833Z
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@emacsen too bad the “living standard” is too complex to keep up with unless you have a big corporate backer. megas can have their own platform. we need something that’s maintainable by a free software community. web is too big.
(DIR) Post #9jRmnKYh1WsSiKtM2a by roka@pl.smuglo.li
2019-06-02T20:21:00.449684Z
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@xj9 @emacsen come home to gopher protocol serving plaintext and, at most, HTML 3.2 using the h type
(DIR) Post #9jRnEPlrkg2yhOy5B2 by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-06-02T20:25:54.160124Z
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@roka @emacsen come home to the sweet taste of shattering the grand illusion. come home to gopher.
(DIR) Post #9jRnhkCerfhaSxU9L6 by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2019-06-02T20:31:07Z
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@emacsen @nleigh what appears on the MS store can be random and inconsistent anyway. I had a few months of a desktop delivering the entire MS Store in Welsh - in spite of me not turning off geolocation, using a static IP and every other computer in the building correctly realising I am completely the other side of Britain in Eastern England 😆
(DIR) Post #9jRwUxq7khQEa8vTO4 by sean@social.sdoconnell.net
2019-06-02T22:09:40Z
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@emacsen > Real choice comes with Free/Open Source Software.Perhaps, but my question would be what assurances do we have that Mozilla will not follow Google in this matter? If history is much of an indicator, Firefox trends after Chrome in both form and function. And eliminating Chromium(-based) and Firefox - what other FOSS browsers have sufficient features, devs, and community to persist for the long term? Especially in a world where Blink does and will continue to set web standards?
(DIR) Post #9jRxMbPXMGPEeq4Ci8 by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T22:19:23Z
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@sean Because if it does, we can fork it.Chromium is Free as well, but Google has a history of making those lines blurry.Mozilla has no such a history.
(DIR) Post #9jRxiZ2Es72vezdpUO by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T22:23:21Z
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@sean In the meantime, Iceweasel and Chromium do exist.
(DIR) Post #9jRxlrR6ug9dbCqZZw by sean@social.sdoconnell.net
2019-06-02T22:23:55Z
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@emacsen I think that sentiment is naive (no offense meant). Sure we could fork Firefox. We could fork Chromium, too. But without sufficient resources to maintain a fork - it withers and dies. Therein lies my point. Chromium and Firefox are both FOSS. One is controlled by Google, the other by Mozilla - major orgs with lots of money to throw at dev and maintenance. Now go find another FOSS browser not based on Chromium (I've tried). Small projects, one-man shows, often lacking key features.
(DIR) Post #9jRxrgVATqtrQKWPWS by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T22:25:00Z
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@sean Free Software is a prerequisite. It's not the only requirement for User Freedom.
(DIR) Post #9jRyGhocjV2WjoYLgG by sean@social.sdoconnell.net
2019-06-02T22:29:30Z
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@emacsen Iceweasel is a re-branding and Chromium will have the same ad blocker killing API change.Show me a modern. feature-complete FOSS browser that is not dependent upon Chromium or Firefox code. There really aren't any (I've looked).> not the only requirementThat's what I'm saying. We can't simply wave our hand and say "FOSS is the answer." Because that's only part of it. In a way, we (the FOSS community) have gathered our fetal chickens into a very small number of rickety baskets.
(DIR) Post #9jRyTw3X6ACAfVpplQ by emacsen@emacsen.net
2019-06-02T22:31:55Z
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@sean These are the exact topics we discuss on @librelounge We actually did a 2 part series on Free Software funding models.
(DIR) Post #9jS9W58M9NRCvCmG4e by dahl@monsterpit.net
2019-06-03T00:09:40Z
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@emacsen @nleigh seems to be delisted from the edge-insider store, which is not the currently live store, as far as i can gather
(DIR) Post #9jSvG2WfdsGbz1zKrI by Henryc@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-06-03T09:30:27Z
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@emacsen UBlock is great, I wonder if we’re heading towards a crack-down on ad blockers.
(DIR) Post #9jTCEBBaAkhnU0p66C by donblanco@octodon.social
2019-06-03T12:40:30Z
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@emacsen I have been enjoying @Brave browser
(DIR) Post #9jTPhUzYuZnmiFVmcK by Gluk@freeradical.zone
2019-06-03T15:11:31Z
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@emacsen Source pls. Can't find it with DuckDuckGo...
(DIR) Post #9jTQg5h1aSJjuijWpE by Gluk@freeradical.zone
2019-06-03T15:22:33Z
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@emacsen Where's the source for Microsoft giving up on its search engine in favor of Googles? Can't find it and the Duck won't help. :P
(DIR) Post #9jmOVFvAi6TwXtILOS by guzzisti@mastodon.social
2019-06-03T07:39:51Z
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@sean @emacsen sad but true...