Post 9jVvIZjZjFrD1v74vg by kf@vis.social
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(DIR) Post #9isNsO3UeNGNSRWfxY by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T18:26:37Z
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Been using aerc as daily driver for an hour now and it is SO comfy
(DIR) Post #9isQAN0LUmKlJskxiS by grubernaut@bsd.network
2019-05-16T18:52:12Z
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@sir mutt levels of comfy?
(DIR) Post #9isQH2anmjtQ2XzPNY by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T18:52:23Z
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@grubernaut way more comfy
(DIR) Post #9isQLISmiiLOQ8GjXE by kf@vis.social
2019-05-16T18:52:52Z
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@sir What are the main pros compared to neomutt?
(DIR) Post #9isQYEZEW62K6NSCvo by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T18:56:28Z
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@kf never tried neomutt, but I can compare it to mutt proper(1) aerc's UI is not connected to its network code, so flaky networks don't render the UI unusable(2) the embedded terminal makes it so you can write a reply while browing other emails or seeing new stuff as it comes in(3) same feature lets you view emails in less instead of the crappy built-in mutt viewer(4) the design of the keybindings makes a lot more sense(5) cool filtering tools + embedded terminal makes it so you can e.g. read HTML emails with elinks or add syntax highlighting to patchesCheck out the demos from this article:https://drewdevault.com/2019/04/15/Status-update.htmlThere's already an AUR package, aerc2-git
(DIR) Post #9isQy8v48bl27A1Jvk by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-05-16T19:01:32Z
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@sir how well does it deal with large amounts of mail in multiple directories, the sort of thing you get when using procmail?I've heard mutt had some problems with that.
(DIR) Post #9isR39lwOWFWCv8vNw by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T19:01:51Z
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@Wolf480pl much better than mutt. It only downloads one screenfull of information at a time.
(DIR) Post #9isR90XzbbmRKmPPXc by kf@vis.social
2019-05-16T19:02:30Z
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@sir cool, looking forward to testing it. Already a dedicated fan of #swaywm, so I have high hopes ;-)
(DIR) Post #9isRzPZ3py8LywtdmS by twee@patch.cx
2019-05-16T19:12:59.406077Z
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@sir @kf curious about this built in terminal. how is that implemented? how is it different to just using the current terminal like what mutt or git does ?
(DIR) Post #9isSAPhTfm6BaY4zaK by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T19:14:36Z
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@twee @kf the built-in terminal can use a fraction of the parent terminal instead of taking over the whole thing. This way, you can still tab over to your inbox and check new messages while you're working on writing your email. It works similarly to how tmux works
(DIR) Post #9iscalc5p13qcblXrE by twee@patch.cx
2019-05-16T21:11:47.566614Z
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@sir @kf ahh, nice.
(DIR) Post #9isdik3NbaS43Rtaee by grubernaut@bsd.network
2019-05-16T21:23:57Z
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@sir ready to try out? Still rely on a separate fetch/send procs? ie: offlineimap, etc?
(DIR) Post #9isdoHhdvPSlreN5X6 by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-16T21:24:18Z
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@grubernaut it currently only supports IMAP. Try it out if you like, sure
(DIR) Post #9iu3tPdWeCQFssVlBo by cobra2@not.unixporn.pro
2019-05-17T13:34:21.860747Z
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@sir @kf @twee How well does it work in tmux?
(DIR) Post #9iu3tPory1UqS3oos4 by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-17T13:51:57Z
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@cobra2 @twee @kf try it, it's free
(DIR) Post #9iyDAdoSrxPCzhl2WW by cobra2@not.unixporn.pro
2019-05-17T16:56:58.703353Z
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@sir @kf @twee I will, probably in 2 months when I get another weekend off.
(DIR) Post #9iyDAe6tlQ9PusNlFw by kf@vis.social
2019-05-19T09:56:38Z
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@cobra2 @sir @twee Hmmm... getting this when running aerc2:panic: terminal entry not foundgoroutine 1 [running]:main.main()aerc.go:97 +0x4b2on Arch.
(DIR) Post #9iyDAeHX7seqRrMFpg by kf@vis.social
2019-05-19T09:57:14Z
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@cobra2 @sir @twee running on termite
(DIR) Post #9iyDAeXq9FhZGQzHFY by kf@vis.social
2019-05-19T09:57:58Z
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@cobra2 @sir @twee and when running in urxvt as well...
(DIR) Post #9iyDAennBwSi3uS17A by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-19T13:54:43Z
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@kf @cobra2 @twee set TERM to xterm
(DIR) Post #9iyEEiqaC6SvihG58C by r@freesoftwareextremist.com
2019-05-19T14:07:08.030917Z
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@sir >daily driver >for an hour
(DIR) Post #9iyEu7Ofp6PJjUwXWC by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-19T14:14:13Z
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@r I've been using it since as well, but the meaning is "using it for normal work" as opposed to "briefly running it to test things here and there"
(DIR) Post #9iySkc1KVfHpAkNyOO by kf@vis.social
2019-05-19T16:49:28Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee Works! Looking very promising indeed. Am I correct in assuming there is no need for mbsync or some such to download emails?
(DIR) Post #9iyT4KCaT4NlhX3Day by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-05-19T16:52:59Z
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@kf @cobra2 @twee yes, that's correct. It supports IMAP directly (and nothing else, yet)
(DIR) Post #9iyTYNUOoIamaGiFVY by kf@vis.social
2019-05-19T16:58:29Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee cool! Looking forward to the future developments.
(DIR) Post #9jVvIZjZjFrD1v74vg by kf@vis.social
2019-06-04T20:10:52Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee Hmmm... getting this lately: tls: either ServerName or InsecureSkipVerify must be specified in the tls.Confi... and no emails loading.
(DIR) Post #9jVvIZvH1lDNcCaQAC by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-04T20:14:29Z
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@kf @cobra2 @twee git pull and try again
(DIR) Post #9jVw921PniPPoyTFE8 by kf@vis.social
2019-06-04T20:23:53Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee Done. Now I get X509: certificate signed by unknown authority. Doing this on Arch, using aerc-git.
(DIR) Post #9jVwMVLU5TbYX1HYw4 by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-04T20:26:23Z
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@kf @cobra2 @twee yeah your MTA needs to get a valid SSL certificate
(DIR) Post #9jVwa8yi2s47DN8JtI by kf@vis.social
2019-06-04T20:28:39Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee Using protonmail-bridge... no ssl-ing going on between the mail client and the bridge... maybe this is where the doggy is buried?
(DIR) Post #9jVwfXWGEHMOm9OpYe by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-04T20:29:12Z
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@kf @cobra2 @twee use imap+insecure and make better life choices about the software you depend on in the future
(DIR) Post #9jVwlUcjuKnPX6GiO0 by kf@vis.social
2019-06-04T20:30:46Z
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@sir @cobra2 @twee Thanks! Life advice taken but not necessarily heeded ;-)
(DIR) Post #9jsiRr6VgftMjv0vD6 by stick@infosec.exchange
2019-06-15T20:04:59Z
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@sir imap+insecure fixed reading my (ProtonMail) emails in aerc — awesome! I am digging around the man page and source, but I don't see anything similar for smtp. aerc asks me to add starttls to accounts.config, and if I do, it complains about the untrusted cert. Any tips? @kf Did you get it working?
(DIR) Post #9jsiRrIuwXohMOopY8 by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-15T20:08:51Z
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@stick @kf you just want smtp://, no starttls option set. If you can turn off the bridge's STARTTLS support, it should work. It's designed to be hard to set up insecurely.
(DIR) Post #9jsjwp2vUJtRHxfRrs by stick@infosec.exchange
2019-06-15T20:25:45Z
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@sir @kf I'm not aware of any method to change the bridge settings, unfortunately. Is there any way to configure aerc to allow me to bypass starttls instead? Or accept an "insecure" cert? That second idea sounds like a great option for both IMAP and SMTP!
(DIR) Post #9jsk35R7SjmvrLyFRg by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-15T20:26:50Z
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@stick @kf the second idea sounds like a great option for making aerc insecure. Try hydroxide instead of the proprietary bridge instead:https://github.com/emersion/hydroxideOr consider switching to a mail provider which cares about free software and open, standard protocols 😉
(DIR) Post #9jsktalYE1CC5JZ1hQ by stick@infosec.exchange
2019-06-15T20:36:22Z
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@sir @kf hydroxide sounds great! Will be switching time now.As for a better email provider, when are you launching mail.sr.ht? Would love to send you the monthly check instead of ProtonMail!
(DIR) Post #9jslY2PGsRaFOUQeAa by sir@cmpwn.com
2019-06-15T20:43:37Z
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@stick @kf I would love to make mail.sr.ht someday, but boy am I busy
(DIR) Post #9jslslWSqXrV6ug2Hg by stick@infosec.exchange
2019-06-15T20:46:41Z
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@sir I can only imagine. Your output is tremendous and the rest of us are all benefiting heavily! sway+aerc+sr.ht are some of my favorite tools, and your blog is always insightful and challenging. Thank you, truly.